Red Core 1.2GHz TBirds

PieDerro

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I have an 01/01 dated 1.2GHz Tbird processor that has a red core.

I know that all 1.1 and 1.2GHz Tbirds are supposed to be Copper Interconnected, but checking out this forum link some guys seem to suggest that Red Cores come from Austin (Aluminium interconnects).

So... since I don't have my motherboard, is the die polish colour really an indication of how well this thing will overclock?

P.S. Who else out there has overclocked a Week 01 of 2001 Red Core 1.2GHz?? Howdya go?
 

DaddyG

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It appears that AMD may be producing 1.2 gigs at Austin. I've seen a green 1.2 gig. They are rare, but they exist. Its possible that Dresden is using different polishes but green has always been exclusive to Austin.
 

Mykex

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Well I heard a different red core rumor set your multi to 12.5 and see if it does an automatic step jump on the fsb and gives you 1.3gig.

BTW no one has ever positively proved copper interconnects even exist outside of a production test so take it with a grain of salt. I will say however Dresdin has produced better chips.
 

Zephyr

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All chips produced at Fab30 is based on HiP6* which is a copper interconnect technology. So there's nothing to take with a grain of salt it's a fact.
 

compuwiz1

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Actually, yes this is true. All 1.1GHz and up are copper interconnects. 1GHz and below can go either way.
 

Dill

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so the cores that are greenish blue (kinda depends how you look at it in the light) are from Austin, and the pure blue are from Dresden?
 

DaddyG

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Compuwiz1, I thought that all 1.1 gigs and higher were Dresden, BUT green 1.2's have shown up, maybe its just a polish thing but green has always been exclusive to the Austin fab.
 

Zephyr

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Whether the die polish color scheme got messed up or they actually make Alu Tbirds 1200 I don't know. However Jerry Sanders did state at the Q400 earnings conference call that by Q101 all Tbirds would be produced at Fab 30. I'm personally more inclined to believe Fab 30 has been using green die polish rather than Fab 25 has been making Tbird 1200's. However I'm just speculating like everybody else.
 

whalen

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Just got my 1.2GHz in today. It looked green as could be to me ;) Here are the numbers for it

A1200Am53B
AJEA0052BPBW
F2132731727

Anyone know if week 52's are good overclockers? Probably not considering my luck!! :)
 

Mykex

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Oh I like this one,so how do we base this as fact?



<< All chips produced at Fab30 is based on HiP6* which is a copper interconnect technology. So there's nothing to take with a grain of salt it's a fact. >>



Pretty smart azzed reply without a grain of proof. So your saying every chip from Dresdin is copper? Well that is definatly not a fact! We know this because AMD did a press release concerning the testing of copper interconects at Dresdin after the factory had been producing chips. So no not all chips from fab30 are copper(definatly not early weeks).:p
 

Adul

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You can no longer tell by the dye color where the chips are fabbed. AMD has been mixing them up lately for whatever the reason may be.
 

Zephyr

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<< Pretty smart azzed reply without a grain of proof. So your saying every chip from Dresdin is copper? Well that is definatly not a fact! We know this because AMD did a press release concerning the testing of copper interconects at Dresdin after the factory had been producing chips. So no not all chips from fab30 are copper(definatly not early weeks). >>



True Dresden did not always produce copper chips only, however Jerry Sanders has stated numerous times that Fab 30 uses Copper interconnect technology. The equipment for HiP6* was installed at Fab 30 late in 1999, before AMD stated they were actually producing anything but engineering samples at Fab 30, so I'd say it's unlikely that very many Al based chips from Dresden ever hit the streets. However this is furthermore plain irelevant since sayin the first weeks of Fab 30 chips were non-copper and questioning that Tbirds today are based on copper interconnects are two differnet things.