Recycling bin "suite" out there somewhere ?

[XDS]

I know this allot to swallow ,


I need a Recycling bin "program" (Hopefully something that intergrates well in XP/Vista Ult Ed) that allows me to atleast log the file information of the files that are deleted on the drive as well as create a second "BIN" for files im just not sure about deleting yet.


I am familiar with a couple options out there..

Norton Protected Bin.. and ofcoarse windows Auditing ..


I don't mind using windows Auditing , but It just doesn't seem right to do that.


In the past I came across a program that was built into either Norton or Mcfee called "BigBin" which allowed DOS deleted files to be saved as well.
(By the way this would be nice to have as well)



Somebody please save me !

 

[Nothinman]

as well as create a second "BIN" for files im just not sure about deleting yet.

Um, how about just not deleting files you're not sure about deleting?

 

[Skeeedunt]

Vista Ultimate should have Shadow Copies, might see if that will suit some of your needs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_Shadow_Copy_Service

 

[XDS]

TY guys for your replies , im looking more of like something that will overlay a nice gui and good feature set over the existing recycling bin.

Kind of how Norton Bin works , But even further with vast more features.

- I need the files I delete to be loged (and yes im aware of file auditing threw the group policy editor)

- I need extra bins for different things , for instance

A good example would be a secondary bin that would not only keep my files safe until I emtpy it but compress those files.

- I need files deleted from the command line or within other parts of my file system to also go to a different bin should I choose.

- And finaly I need the bins to have some type of descrete visual status.
( The application "Extended Bin" does this very well but unfortunately only works in XP )


I want you all to know I have made some progress on this... But nothing like a suite or even better a program that had many suites of tools.

I found safe erase (from O&O software) has come out with a new version .
( Version 3)

(By the way they have updated ALOT of there software just this past couple of days)


< ~ SIGH ~ >

I'm just not spirited enough anymore to keep looking.

 

[lxskllr]

This all seems very confusing to me. What goal are you trying to achieve exactly? If it were me I'd skip the recycle bin altogether, and put files you're thinking of deleting into separate folders. That way you can audit, compress, or do whatever you want with them, then get rid of them when you're sure. There's nothing magic about the recycle bin. It's just a folder(more or less) like any other folder.

 

[XDS]

Essentialy you are correct , the recycling bin is just a folder.

However when you have over 40 thousand (I shit you not) files sitting in there allready.

This for me is the best sollution.

It's just "what works for me" :roll:

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: XDS
Essentialy you are correct , the recycling bin is just a folder.

However when you have over 40 thousand (I shit you not) files sitting in there allready.

This for me is the best sollution.

It's just "what works for me" :roll:

That's what I'm getting at though. You shouldn't need a special utility to do what you want. From the command line instead of using Delete, use Move. You could create a bat file that moves certain files to different folders, and even put it in a right click context menu. You could have it compress the file and move it at the same time. I can't tell you exactly how to do all of this, but it would be very easy to accomplish with a little Googling.

 

[XDS]

And I can understand that . I can realy.

However when you work in the environment I work in not everyone around you is as literate with command line and batch tools.

I have found some of what I need threw google , SafeErase 3 for instance now logs my files I delete with it by default if I set that option to do so.

Extended recycling bin now takes care of my status concerns in XP and sooner or later A vista version will be available.

There are still concerns here.

Files deleted by programs that use BATCH process's are permanently deleted and do not go to the recycling bin.

I remember way back in 98 when BigBin was around in Nuts&Bolts 98 I didn't have to worry about that.


At this point I just might give Norton another try.



Also I would just like to make it clear here ...

My goal also is not to give microsoft its fill with the recycling bin.

My goal is simply to find A recycling bin suite that works seamlessly in XP and , yes and VISTA.

And now that VISTA's reliability and performance package is coming out tuesday im probably going to be using VISTA a little more.


My quest is ever reaching..



My will be done

 

[Nothinman]

My quest is ever reaching..

That's because you're questing for the wrong answer. The two things you should look at are proper backups so that you can restore any files that are deleted accidentally and user training so that they make less stupid mistakes.

 

[XDS]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

My quest is ever reaching..

That's because you're questing for the wrong answer. The two things you should look at are proper backups so that you can restore any files that are deleted accidentally and user training so that they make less stupid mistakes.

We don't live in A full proof world unfortunately , so to each his own.

 

[XDS]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

My quest is ever reaching..

That's because you're questing for the wrong answer. The two things you should look at are proper backups so that you can restore any files that are deleted accidentally and user training so that they make less stupid mistakes.

We don't live in A full proof world unfortunately , so to each his own.

 

[Nothinman]

We don't live in A full proof world unfortunately , so to each his own.

Nothing will be foolproof but a good backup scheme will serve you much better in the long run than any hackish extra recycle bin crap. Especially since Vista and Win2K3 have the Shadow Copy functionality that should allow you to recover any accidentally deleted files.

 

[XDS]

ayyy.. Why do you call things crap when a app hasn't even been brought to light ?

Some of us just like GUI's ya know

A good example is BIT9's overlay apps. , Programs are just "brought to light" .

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: XDS
ayyy.. Why do you call things crap when a app hasn't even been brought to light ?

Some of us just like GUI's ya know

A good example is BIT9's overlay apps. , Programs are just "brought to light" .

What are you talking about? He's pointing out that you're looking for the wrong tool to solve your problem. Any recycle bin add-on program is not going to give the robustness, flexibility and reliability of a fully thought out backup solution.

 

[XDS]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: XDS
ayyy.. Why do you call things crap when a app hasn't even been brought to light ?

Some of us just like GUI's ya know

A good example is BIT9's overlay apps. , Programs are just "brought to light" .

What are you talking about? He's pointing out that you're looking for the wrong tool to solve your problem. Any recycle bin add-on program is not going to give the robustness, flexibility and reliability of a fully thought out backup solution.

I don't believe my idea of a recycling bin suite to be hackish extra recycle bin crap !

 

[Nothinman]

Some of us just like GUI's ya know

Um, restoring a Shadow Copy of a file is as simple as using the Previous Version tab on the properties of a file or folder.

I don't believe my idea of a recycling bin suite to be hackish extra recycle bin crap !

Sure it is, especially when there are more complete solutions already available. There's a reason that no one uses the "Norton Protected Recycle Bin" anymore.

 

[XDS]

Whatever. , Your nocking my thread without giving a real option for me to try first.

 

[Nothinman]

You said you were looking for an option for Vista and it's already there. The same is true of Win2K3 Server if you're using that as a repository for your documents, which you probably should be because then you can setup your backup solution there as well and have virtually everything taken care of.

 

[XDS]

When I said "SUITE" doesn't that automaticaly click something in yur head i want a 3rd party solution ?

I know all about shadow copying and delete auditiing, the problem with that is it takes up far more resources seeing it shadows EVERY pernant extention file that is deleted.


ugh , why do i bother asking

 

[Nothinman]

When I said "SUITE" doesn't that automaticaly click something in yur head i want a 3rd party solution ?

Not at all.

ugh , why do i bother asking

I'm not sure, since you don't seem to understand what's even available to you.