Record year for stock buy-backs, at the expense of future growth

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Pearlstein has an interesting take on the big "job creators" in the U.S. economy. Half a trillion dollars of stock buy-backs this year, significantly more than the amount of money companies are investing in future growth. And a telling statistic is that the "insiders" at companies with the most aggressive stock-buyback programs are the most likely to be selling their own stock portfolios - not exactly a vote of confidence in the future growth of the U.S. economy. Furthermore, these are the same companies that refuse to share their record profits with mainstream employees and who move to tax havens and avoid trillions in taxes.

I think it's reasonable to ask the question: Given that companies are so focused on increasing shareholder value and dodging taxes, and so little focused on investment in the future, why should we believe that these companies are in fact the "job creators" that righties claim them to be. And instead of re-enacting the R&D tax credit ($156 billion) as was done last week (but which may well get vetoed by the President), why shouldn't Congress PUNISH companies for diverting their profits away from more productive use?

Stock-buyback mania

If you’re wondering why the economy remains stuck in second gear, consider this hypothesis:

Instead of investing in new plants, equipment and products, instead of paying their taxes and giving a long-overdue raise to their employees, big corporations are spending their record profits — plus gobs of newly borrowed money — to buy back their own shares and those of other companies.

The latest data from Dealogic shows that U.S. companies have announced more than half a trillion dollars in mergers and acquisitions this year, 34 percent ahead of last year’s brisk pace. Chief executives in the tech, telecom and pharmaceutical industries apparently can’t look themselves in the mirror these days if they don’t have some industry-altering deal in the works. Wall Street investment bankers are predicting a banner year for fees and bonuses.

In the short term, of course, all this dealmaking has the effect of lifting the entire stock market as every company rushes to get in on the action and every company becomes a potential acquisition target. But over the long term, studies show that mergers and acquisitions destroy shareholder value, particularly those done when stock prices are at or near their peak, as they are now.

Meanwhile, the corporations of the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index spent $477 billion last year buying back their own shares, a 29 percent increase over 2012 and the most since the peak year of 2007. The idea behind buybacks is that they are a tax-advantaged way to return profits to shareholders by boosting the market price of their shares. Since the stock market tends to value companies by multiplying the profits per share times the number of shares, reducing the number of outstanding shares has the arithmetic effect of boosting the stock price.

Buying back shares is so in vogue that 80 percent of the S&P 500 did it over the past year, according to Kiplinger. Among the more aggressive have been Boeing, Caterpillar, Cisco, 3M, Microsoft, Safeway and Travelers, who all bought back more than 10 percent of their shares, reports Zero Hedge, the widely followed investor Web site. Apple alone has announced it would spend $130 billion to repurchase shares. Last week, Ford joined the parade with an $18 billion buyback.

And make no mistake: In the short term, the buyback strategy works. Stock buybacks in the S&P 500 transformed what would have been an 80 percent rebound from the lows of 2009 into a 178 percent increase, according to a study by Fortuna Advisors.

It would be one thing if most of these stock buybacks were paid for out of the trillions of dollars in cash now sitting on corporate balance sheets. But as it happens, most of them have been paid for by near-record levels of corporate borrowing. Of the $3.4 trillion in additional debt taken on by nonfinancial corporations since 2009, nearly 87 percent has been sent off to shareholders in the form of dividends and stock buybacks, according to Paradarch Advisors.

The poster child of the corporate sector for this leveraged buyout is IBM, which in the first quarter bought back more than $8 billion of its own stock, almost all of it paid for by borrowing. By reducing the number of outstanding shares, IBM has been able to maintain its earnings per share and prop up its stock price even as sales and operating profits fall.

The result: What was once the bluest of blue-chip companies now has a debt-to-equity ratio that is the highest in its history. As Zero Hedge put it, IBM has embarked on a strategy to “postpone the day of income statement reckoning by unleashing record amounts of debt on what was once upon a time a pristine balance sheet.”

More significantly, IBM since 2102 has invested four times as much in stock buybacks as it has on the capital expenditures needed to grow its business over the long term.

And in that it is not alone. Last year, the companies of the S&P 500 spent 30 percent more on stock buybacks and dividends than on capital expenditures. It’s simply the latest proof that in the boardrooms and executive suites of corporate America, financial engineering has long since overtaken the more productive kind.

One reason companies are gorging on share buybacks is that it inoculates them from the unwanted attention of “activist investors” who swoop in and demand them, hoping to make a quick score. But other investors are skeptical.

In March, Larry Fink, chairman of BlackRock, which manages $4.3 trillion of other people’s money, wrote the chief executives of 800 of the world’s largest corporations to tell them of his concern that they were investing too little in future growth.

“Too many companies have cut capital expenditure and even increased debt to boost dividends and increase share buybacks,” wrote Fink, adding that when done for the wrong reason, such tactics “jeopardize a company’s ability to generate sustainable long-term returns.” About a dozen executives wrote back privately to praise Fink, but the public response to the widely reported letter was akin to a deafening silence.

One “wrong” reason for doing buybacks would be to benefit top executives whose incentive pay is pegged to the share price or earnings per share. That’s surely going on, but it’s even worse than that, as Nejat Seyhun, a finance professor at the University of Michigan, has discovered.

Seyhun calculates an index of bullish or bearish sentiment among corporate insiders based on whether they are buying or selling more of their company’s stock. And over the years, he’s noticed a pattern: When companies are most aggressive in buying back their stock on the open market with shareholders’ money, company insiders are most aggressive in selling shares from their own portfolios.

Seyhun and a colleague are now trying to calculate this correlation over time. But what he can report is that his gauge of insider sentiment is now more “bearish” than at any time in the past 25 years, after falling steadily for more than two years.

Self-dealing by corporate insiders, however, is only part of this story. The Federal Reserve has also played a big role in the buyout bonanza. Over the past five years, the Fed has pumped $3 trillion into the financial system, much of which remained there rather than making its way into the real economy. That’s made it easy for companies to use cheap borrowed money to buy back their stock, or that of other companies.

At a more fundamental level, however, the buyback and merger mania is driven by the siren call to “maximize shareholder value” that now dominates corporate decision-making. It is the rationale for stock buybacks, dividend increases and all the me-too mergers. It explains the lackluster pace of capital investment and the refusal to share record profits with front-line employees who haven’t had a raise in years. And it drives the fetish for tax avoidance that now, in the minds of executives, “requires” companies to move headquarters to low-tax jurisdictions and “requires” them to keep trillions of dollars in untaxed profits overseas.

What’s missing from the current recovery, in short, is all the money that corporate America has frittered away on financial game-playing — money that could have been used to invest in equipment and products, to put extra money in the pockets of consumers, to provide the tax money government needs to invest in basic infrastructure and research and the education of the next generation of workers. A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real money.
 

Fern

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Pearlstein has an interesting take on the big "job creators" in the U.S. economy. Half a trillion dollars of stock buy-backs this year, significantly more than the amount of money companies are investing in future growth. And a telling statistic is that the "insiders" at companies with the most aggressive stock-buyback programs are the most likely to be selling their own stock portfolios - not exactly a vote of confidence in the future growth of the U.S. economy. Furthermore, these are the same companies that refuse to share their record profits with mainstream employees and who move to tax havens and avoid trillions in taxes.

I think it's reasonable to ask the question: Given that companies are so focused on increasing shareholder value and dodging taxes, and so little focused on investment in the future, why should we believe that these companies are in fact the "job creators" that righties claim them to be. And instead of re-enacting the R&D tax credit ($156 billion) as was done last week (but which may well get vetoed by the President), why shouldn't Congress PUNISH companies for diverting their profits away from more productive use?

Stock-buyback mania

The answer(s) are included in that 'stew' of an article. I say "stew" because lots of stuff is tossed in and the author doesn't always explain the connection. Can't fault him though, it's complicated.

I don't think stock buy backs and mergers and acquisitions should be confused/limped together.

Given the broad usage of stock options as executive compensation insider selling should not necessarily be seen as bearish. These execs need to monetize those S.O.'s for obvious reasons.

OTOH, that they are bearish can be ascertained by their responses to his inquiry.

If they are bearish why in the h3ll would they be investing in new equipment? What kind of fool invests in expansion when no prospects for growth are evident?

Why should these companies pay their 'mainstream" employees more than the market dictates? Why pay more than a competitive wage? That would be foolish.

If and when these companies believe prospects look good they will hire more people and ramp up (invest in equip etc.) expansion plans.

The question is why don't they think things look good? What changes could be made that would reverse that view? Fix that and they will be job creators.

It's not up to Congress to decide what is the most productive use of corporations' profits. They can't manage the funds now at their disposal. God forbid they get to decide how others allocate resources.

I think this article more an indictment of current govt policy than anything else. And a good example of that is the fed reserve giving them 'free money' to pursue stock buybacks.

BTW: I think stock buybacks keep stock prices higher. You want that policy to stop and watch the value of 401k's evaporate?

I don't think many complaints of liberals are well thought out.

Fern
 
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Matt1970

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It's not up to Congress to decide what is the most productive use of corporations' profits. They can't manage the funds now at their disposal. God forbid they get to decide how others allocate resources.

I don't think many complaints of liberals are well thought out.

Fern

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

Kwatt

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I mostly do not care if a company buys back stock or not.

Except when a company gives stock as bonus rewards for making a EPS target. If the managment spends to buy stock and reduce the outstanding shares to meet the EPS target even if overall earnings are flat or less. Then issue themselves stock or options as a bonus bringing the outstanding share number back up and the company with less cash or more debt if the buyback was through borrowing.


I check for buy back programs and how they where paid for. Also, the EPS before and after the buyback and overall earnings.


I mostly go for a dividend stock because I believe it makes the managment more thoughtful about spending. Knowing they must make the dividend payment or the stock will likely be punished. JMO


PS: Until Congress gets their own house in order they should not be messing around in any other house.

Most of Congress should not be turned loose in a Port-a-John without a muzzle on.


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I mostly do not care if a company buys back stock or not.

Except when a company gives stock as bonus rewards for making a EPS target. If the managment spends to buy stock and reduce the outstanding shares to meet the EPS target even if overall earnings are flat or less. Then issue themselves stock or options as a bonus bringing the outstanding share number back up and the company with less cash or more debt if the buyback was through borrowing.


I check for buy back programs and how they where paid for. Also, the EPS before and after the buyback and overall earnings.


I mostly go for a dividend stock because I believe it makes the managment more thoughtful about spending. Knowing they must make the dividend payment or the stock will likely be punished. JMO


PS: Until Congress gets their own house in order they should not be messing around in any other house.

Most of Congress should not be turned loose in a Port-a-John without a muzzle on.

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LOL Perfect!

Struck me as very odd that companies would be considered bearish because they are buying back their stock, thereby depriving themselves not only of operating cash but losing the opportunity to buy it back later more cheaply. Unless this is one of those situations where those "insiders" decide the company should buy back their personal shares at what they are guessing is at or near the top.
 

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Apple, Microsoft, Google all (much) richer than the U.S. government
Apple Inc.'s $158.8 billion cash stockpile more than triples the $48.5 billion currently in the coffers of the U.S. government, according to a new report.

Microsoft Corp. and Google Inc. also have also posted cash and cash equivalents worth more than the total U.S. Treasury at roughly $84 billion and $58 billion, respectively, according to U.S. Trust data cited by British newspaper the Telegraph.
Kind of makes you wonder who makes the laws for who, don't it?

Uno
 

Genx87

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That is very misleading. The govt doesn't stockpile cash. The treasury notes corporations own paid the US govt. They aren't handed out for free. And the federal govt's budget is 4 trillion dollars. What is Apple's?
 

KB

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Interest rates are at record lows. CEOs would be doing their company a disservice if they didn't get some of that cheap money for buybacks. Will there be future pain because of all the borrowing? Yes a little, but many of this loans are 30 year loans. They will be paying these low interest rates for many years to come.

Not just companies, but people should be getting in on this cheap money. Always wanted land or a house? Still time to get low interest rates.
 

dphantom

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It's not up to Congress to decide what is the most productive use of corporations' profits. They can't manage the funds now at their disposal. God forbid they get to decide how others allocate resources.

I think this article more an indictment of current govt policy than anything else. And a good example of that is the fed reserve giving them 'free money' to pursue stock buybacks.

+1
 

fskimospy

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The answer(s) are included in that 'stew' of an article. I say "stew" because lots of stuff is tossed in and the author doesn't always explain the connection. Can't fault him though, it's complicated.

I don't think stock buy backs and mergers and acquisitions should be confused/limped together.

Given the broad usage of stock options as executive compensation insider selling should not necessarily be seen as bearish. These execs need to monetize those S.O.'s for obvious reasons.

OTOH, that they are bearish can be ascertained by their responses to his inquiry.

If they are bearish why in the h3ll would they be investing in new equipment? What kind of fool invests in expansion when no prospects for growth are evident?

Why should these companies pay their 'mainstream" employees more than the market dictates? Why pay more than a competitive wage? That would be foolish.

If and when these companies believe prospects look good they will hire more people and ramp up (invest in equip etc.) expansion plans.

The question is why don't they think things look good? What changes could be made that would reverse that view? Fix that and they will be job creators.

It's not up to Congress to decide what is the most productive use of corporations' profits. They can't manage the funds now at their disposal. God forbid they get to decide how others allocate resources.

I think this article more an indictment of current govt policy than anything else. And a good example of that is the fed reserve giving them 'free money' to pursue stock buybacks.

BTW: I think stock buybacks keep stock prices higher. You want that policy to stop and watch the value of 401k's evaporate?

I don't think many complaints of liberals are well thought out.

Fern

Indictment of government policy in what way? Are you saying that you think we should raise interest rates?
 

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Oligarchy gonna drive you home, baby!

Just not in the way you thought they would...

Inside investors are cashing in at inflated prices because they can, because the tax rate on LTCG's is much lower than the rate on dividends for the investor class. When the stock price falls because of low earnings, (surprise!) they'll buy it back, make money off the deal. It's the same principle as short selling with outright market manipulation.

The managers of 401K funds play their own portfolios against those they manage the same way.
 

Darwin333

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Pearlstein has an interesting take on the big "job creators" in the U.S. economy. Half a trillion dollars of stock buy-backs this year, significantly more than the amount of money companies are investing in future growth. And a telling statistic is that the "insiders" at companies with the most aggressive stock-buyback programs are the most likely to be selling their own stock portfolios - not exactly a vote of confidence in the future growth of the U.S. economy. Furthermore, these are the same companies that refuse to share their record profits with mainstream employees and who move to tax havens and avoid trillions in taxes.

I think it's reasonable to ask the question: Given that companies are so focused on increasing shareholder value and dodging taxes, and so little focused on investment in the future, why should we believe that these companies are in fact the "job creators" that righties claim them to be. And instead of re-enacting the R&D tax credit ($156 billion) as was done last week (but which may well get vetoed by the President), why shouldn't Congress PUNISH companies for diverting their profits away from more productive use?

While the tax code is most definitely used as incentives and disincentives for behaviors/activities (like purchasing a home), and that is one of the biggest reasons why the tax code will never be simplified.

Taxes should be levied to pay for our government. They should NOT be used as a form of punishment.
 

fskimospy

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Of course we should but as you well know we sort of can't due to the nature of our debt.

Oh good lord no. That would be a catastrophic economic mistake and it had nothing to do with our debt. The idea that we should raise interest rates in a time of dangerously low inflation and major employment weakness runs contrary to economics 101.
 

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Oh good lord no. That would be a catastrophic economic mistake and it had nothing to do with our debt. The idea that we should raise interest rates in a time of dangerously low inflation and major employment weakness runs contrary to economics 101.

You can keep living the fantasy that we can postpone the fall forever, but reality dictates at some point the house of cards must collapse. The sooner it does, the sooner we can have a real recovery.
 

Kwatt

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Oh good lord no. That would be a catastrophic economic mistake and it had nothing to do with our debt. The idea that we should raise interest rates in a time of dangerously low inflation and major employment weakness runs contrary to economics 101.

Why would it be "catastrophic"? The recovery has been catastrophic for a lot of the middle class.

The "recovery" is 5+ years old. How long should it take? Low intrest rates don't seem to be working.

Will the economy fail if "life support" I.E. low intrest rates was turned off and the "feeding tube" I.E. QE removed will the patient pass on?

Is it really a recovery or is it a coma?


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fskimospy

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Why would it be "catastrophic"? The recovery has been catastrophic for a lot of the middle class.

The "recovery" is 5+ years old. How long should it take? Low intrest rates don't seem to be working.

Will the economy fail if "life support" I.E. low intrest rates was turned off and the "feeding tube" I.E. QE removed will the patient pass on?

Is it really a recovery or is it a coma?
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I would say that your definition of 'catastrophic' might be a bit too mild.

First, QE is already being gradually withdrawn as the economy improves.

That aside though, your argument is that low interest rates have coincided with a period of slow economic growth and therefore higher interest rates would do better? What economic basis are you using for this? As in, what interest rate should we target, what effects do you think it will have, and how will it make the US better off in the future?

You don't have to be super specific, just general descriptions of what you think will happen. If you can provide any kind of evidence to base this on, all the better. I'm asking because it seems to fly in the face of basically everything we know about macroeconomics.
 

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I would say that your definition of 'catastrophic' might be a bit too mild.

First, QE is already being gradually withdrawn as the economy improves.

That aside though, your argument is that low interest rates have coincided with a period of slow economic growth and therefore higher interest rates would do better? What economic basis are you using for this? As in, what interest rate should we target, what effects do you think it will have, and how will it make the US better off in the future?

You don't have to be super specific, just general descriptions of what you think will happen. If you can provide any kind of evidence to base this on, all the better. I'm asking because it seems to fly in the face of basically everything we know about macroeconomics.


I understand QE is being reduced. I still don't understand the "Exit Strategy" that used to be talked about. In fact I rarely see any reference to it. So I assume it has been worked out.

I did not mean to imply that rasing the intrest rate would be any better. Only that fixing a low rate doesn't seem to have got the recovery done. Maybe I just expected the recovery to happen faster than 5 years.

Would a higher rate on savings encourage people to save more? I read all the time about how US citizens savings is to low. Greater savings would equal more stability and less reliance on other support. Would it not?

Why fix the rate at all? I thought the free market would naturally work that out. Shows how little I know. ;)


Something I left out of my last post is on the "dangerously low inflation".
If I recall previous post between us correctly. When you refer to inflation you a going by the "CPI" correct?
 

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I understand QE is being reduced. I still don't understand the "Exit Strategy" that used to be talked about. In fact I rarely see any reference to it. So I assume it has been worked out.

I did not mean to imply that rasing the intrest rate would be any better. Only that fixing a low rate doesn't seem to have got the recovery done. Maybe I just expected the recovery to happen faster than 5 years.

Would a higher rate on savings encourage people to save more? I read all the time about how US citizens savings is to low. Greater savings would equal more stability and less reliance on other support. Would it not?

Why fix the rate at all? I thought the free market would naturally work that out. Shows how little I know. ;)


Something I left out of my last post is on the "dangerously low inflation".
If I recall previous post between us correctly. When you refer to inflation you a going by the "CPI" correct?

When I talk about inflation I am referring to CPI and the independent estimates of inflation that closely track it.

As far as savings go, presumably you would count debt reduction as savings also? If so, I would go and check what's happened in America over the last few years. We have seen deleveraging at one of the fastest paces in our history. This is in fact likely one of the reasons why growth hasn't been faster:

http://www.blog.invesco.us.com/debt-crisis-recovery-bell-curves-and-balance-sheets-2/
 

Genx87

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I have heard economists toying with negative interest rates to push the economy forward. I am not entirely sure how that would work.
 

Zorba

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Meanwhile, these companies doing huge buyback are cutting pensions, benefits, not giving raises, etc. all in the name of saving costs.

It is very clear most of these buybacks are being done to enrich the top executives at the long term detriment of the company, shareholders and employees.
 

Kwatt

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When I talk about inflation I am referring to CPI and the independent estimates of inflation that closely track it.

As far as savings go, presumably you would count debt reduction as savings also? If so, I would go and check what's happened in America over the last few years. We have seen deleveraging at one of the fastest paces in our history. This is in fact likely one of the reasons why growth hasn't been faster:

http://www.blog.invesco.us.com/debt-crisis-recovery-bell-curves-and-balance-sheets-2/


"CPI" inflation may be low. You posted a link for me in another thread that informed me how the CPI is figured. It was informitive but does not apply to me personally.

"Kwatt" inflation is brutaly high. But I tend to waste my income on thing like keeping a roof over my head, fuel, healthcare/health INS., and food.:) If I start sleeping in my truck again while looking for a job or start selling blood plasma for food and fuel. I'll be all over the CPI inflation.:)

Yes I would count debt reduction as savings. I personally may not give it an equal bias but, would count it close to equal.

Thanks for the link. I will have to read it serveral more times to get "it" though. I was thinking more of personal instead of corporate "savings" and "debt reduction" though.

You posted earlier that raising the rate would "fly in the face of basically everything we know about macroeconomics".
So, raising the rates has been tried in simular economic situations in the past? Which ones? I would like to read up on why it failed. Then maybe I can finally understand why fixing a low rate is going to work.

Thank You for taking the time to help me clear this up in my mind.


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Indictment of government policy in what way? Are you saying that you think we should raise interest rates?

We've had 5 yrs of "turning the economy around", basically it's going in a circle (i.e., going no where).

I think govt policy is to blame. Onerous, inefficient and counter-productive regulations (e.g., Dodd Frank) and income tax scheme.

No, I don't think interest rates should be raised. But I do suspect that the handout of 'free money' could likely be done much better. About all I'm seeing now is it profiting big banks and businesses. E.g., banks now in the commodities market.

Bad govt policy. Period.

Fern
 

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We've had 5 yrs of "turning the economy around", basically it's going in a circle (i.e., going no where).

I think govt policy is to blame. Onerous, inefficient and counter-productive regulations (e.g., Dodd Frank) and income tax scheme.

No, I don't think interest rates should be raised. But I do suspect that the handout of 'free money' could likely be done much better. About all I'm seeing now is it profiting big banks and businesses. E.g., banks now in the commodities market.

Bad govt policy. Period.

Fern

Can you provide any evidence for what you mentioned being the cause?