Recommended slotket and cpu for abit bh6

[4thman]

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Trying to help a friend do a cheap upgrade.Lets assume he has the rev 1.0 board.Has anyone gone up to a fcgpa celery or p3?He presently has a 433 celery,128 meg pc 100,gf2 mx,sb16,30g 7200 hd.He's very skeptical of overclocking.I'm thinking of the highest mhz un-overclocked cpu he can run for a decent price.Thanks.

 

[oldfart]

Best bet for a cheap CPU with no overclocking would be a Celeron 900 - 1.1 Ghz. About $50 - $85 retail with HS/Fan HERE

 

[4thman]

Ok thanks oldfart,I suppose we'll have to get the latest bios.Ya think it'll run on the older board with it's lastest bios?If thats true he'll be one happy camper, can he go higher in the celeron line?Thanks.

 

[oldfart]

Yes, update to BIOS version SS if its 1.0x or SP if it's 1.1 or higher. You could also use a PIII as long as it is a 100 MHz FSB model. What is the budget?

 

[4thman]

Well we're in Canada,so our money doesnt go as far.He was thinking of a new board,ram, case etc.....but if he can shoe horn a a 1 gig celery and gobs of ram ,i'm sure he'll be happy.Compared to a 433 and 128ram.Price wise I dunno,but the cheaper the better,a celery 900 is 130.00$ up here.

 

[oldfart]

Well, you can use any 100 MHz FSB Coppermine Celeron or PIII that you like. Just have to pick a price. The Celeron is more bang for the $$.

 

[4thman]

The hardest thing will be to find a slotket up here.I had a hard time finding an asus s370 dl for my board.(p2-99b ).All I need is to find a 566 or 600 celery,tough.Using a 466@525 at present on a generic slotket.What would be a good slotket for the bh6?Again thanks for the advice,much appreciated.

 

[tcsenter]

The best slockets are the Iwill Slocket II (rev. 1.1 or higher), Abit Slotket III (rev .84 or higher), MSI 6905 Master 2.0 or higher, Asus S370-DL, Soltek SL-02A++, and Gigabyte GA-6R7Pro. Stay away from a generic product called "SUPER SLOCKET III".

You'll probably want one with VR adjustment (all mentioned above offer VR adjustment) , if the BH6 voltage regulator can not provide the lower VR of new Coppermine Celeron and PIII. If the voltage regulator can't provide the lower VR, some boards will just default to the lowest VR available, but some won't boot at all. When that happens, you need a slocket with VR adjustment, set it to the lowest VR that the board is capable of.

I seem to recall a few Canadian sellers on Ebay auctioning several brand name slockets. Search Ebay for both "slocket" and "slotket", or maybe "cpu converter", people use them all interchangibly.

 

[akou]

I just got my parts from Google gear yesterday. Celeron 1.1 and slotkit. Everything works great on the old bh6.

Feel the Joy!

 

[4thman]

OK thanks folks,tcsenter:vr adjustment is the same as vcore?I have a asus 370dl rev 1.02,(not in use as of yet)with jumpers for jp6(intel-joshua),jp7(cu-mine-celeron),and also jumpers for cpu voltage(jp1-5)1.5v-2.6v plus jumpers for cpu default.Thanks.

 

[tcsenter]

I today received a 1GHz Celeron from Newegg, I got the sale price before they went up again. VR and core voltage are the same thing.

 

[Herkulese]

I also have an ABIT BH6 rev. 1.0 (SS Bios) currently running a P3-750.
My son has the same board currently running a Celeron 366@550.

I am ready to buy a Celeron 1.0 for me and give the P3-750 to my son.
I was lookin on NewEgg's site and found two retail versions as follows:

1) PIII/Celeron 1.0 Retail Box with 128k L2 Cache
2) PIII/Celeron 1.0 Retail Box with 256k L2 Cache

I believe the 128k Cache version to be a Coppermine and should work on this board.
What is the second ,256k Cache version, a misprint, or some other core, and would it work on the BH6 rev 1.0 (SS Bios)? I have been told that all larger Celerons up to and including 1.1g are Coppermines.

3) PIII/Celeron 1.1 Retail Box with 128k L2 Cache ($85.00) Also a good relative price. Does anyone know if this would this work on this board?

 

[akou]

Yes, celeron 1.1 works

 

[HarryK]

<< I just got my parts from Google gear yesterday. Celeron 1.1 and slotkit. Everything works great on the old bh6.
Feel the Joy! >>



I hope I can pretty soon on my own BH6!

So did you get the Soyo slotket from googlegear? That's the only one I saw there, but it says:


<< Supports Celeron 300~500 CPU >>


Are you using this with a Celeron 1.1??? Can you control the voltage and FSB? Any overclocking success?
Thanks

 

[akou]

"So did you get the Soyo slotket from googlegear? That's the only one I saw there, but it says:
<< Supports Celeron 300~500 CPU >>
Are you using this with a Celeron 1.1??? Can you control the voltage and FSB? Any overclocking success?"

Yeah, I did get the Soyo slotket from googlegear. I just noticed that on the website it saids that it will only support celeron 300-500. When I first bought it from them, I didn't notice that, I only looked to see if it supported FC-PGA. But it works great. There were several jumpers on it that I needed to set for voltage, clkspeed, multiplier, and CPU type. I set the CPU type to celeron, and the other jumpers to auto. I stick the celeron 1.1 on there and it works great. All I have to do was set the CPU in the BH6 bios since everything on the slotkit was set to auto. Oldfart recommended that I turn on the turbo freguency in the bios and I did that. Windows reported my CPU was a pentium II at 1118Mhz. I am happy with it right now, and I am not planning on overclocking it. I need to figure out some way to lower the temp in my computer though. I already have a fancard installed in it, but its still hot. (My apartment builts up heat. The computer was already hot before I upgraded) So I hope that helps. If I had noticed the celeron support earlier, I might have hessitated.

Feel The Joy!

 

[kaborka]

I've got a BE6-2 that's currently running a classic Celery 300A@450. Just plugged in a Radeon 8500 so it's time for a CPU upgrade here, too. Frys has a combo with a Celeron 1GHz with Shuttle AV18E mobo for $99, little more than some places are selling the CPU alone. The ad says this Celeron has a "Tualatin core". Can anyone confirm these Celerons will/won't work in a BX board with Slotket? If they will, I just might put the CPU in my old system and save the mobo for my friend.

 

[HarryK]

akou Thanks for the info.

kaborka My understanding is that the Tualatin chips need a specialized and expensive adapter. This is info I've gotten from the newsgroup alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit

Posted by somebody there:


<< Cel - Tualatin: Up to 1.2 now. I think there's a 1.3 out. Power Leap makes a
slotket for the 1.2. Don't know about the 1.3. Check PL's site. I don't know
Intel's roadmap. Maybe there are faster Tualatin Cels down the road and maybe
the PL adapter would work with them. Just speculation. The PL adapter comes
in a package with the 1.2 + fan + HS. It's expensive! The Tualatin has a
larger cache and has other features that make it faster or more powerful than a
Coppermine with the same Hz. >>



HTH

 

[kaborka]

HarryK: Thanks for the hedzup -- I guess it makes sense the Tualatin Celerons would need a different socket, since the P3's do. I have to resist the urge to upgrade my mobo, so I'll probably stick with a Celeron/slotket combo, unless I can find a good deal on a Coppermine P3. I haven't visited acpm.abit ng for a while, so I'll head over there to catch up.

 

[HarryK]

WHOO_HOO!! Just got my slotket and CPU delivered today. I'm psyched!

But before I screw anything up, somebody gimme' some pointers here.

I've got the MSI-6905 (v2.3) and a Celeron 900

The MSI has jumpers and a little diagram on the back showing the settings, but I'm a little confused.

Since I've got a BH6, I can use the softmenu to tweak the settings, so should I just leave all the jumpers on "auto"?
Also, there is a setting for jumper J1 and J4 that is called the "overclocking jumper" which will set the FSB. But my MSI doesn't HAVE a J4. There's no jumper there where it's supposed to be, so I'm not sure how to set J1 (because it's the combination of these two jumpers that determines: 100MHz, 133MHz, "CPU defined" or "Reserved") Without the J4, I don't know which setting I'll be at

Any tips or thoughts on the matter??

 

[cheetoden]

I' ve got the exact same thing in a BH6 and I just left everything set to "auto" on the 6905 and made all my adjustments through the soft menu.

 

[HarryK]

<< I' ve got the exact same thing in a BH6 and I just left everything set to "auto" on the 6905 and made all my adjustments through the soft menu. >>



Thanks for the reply. I've got another question or 2.

First of all, I had a HELL of a time getting the heatsink clipped on (I've got the boxed retail Intel Cel w/ heatsink and fan) The instructions that Intel includes in the box ONLY say to clip the side that's closest to the part of the socket that's stamped "pga370". But that seems really odd, and seems to defeat the purpose of the clip (since the clip is all one piece running from one side to the other)

Unfortunately, it was physically impossible to clip both sides. No, seriously, it was. I stressed about this for about 20 minutes, and then removed the fan from the heat sink and bent the clip so making both sides clippable was a possibility. I'm just curious if you had a similar issue?

Secondly for some reason my Lite-On 16x10x40 IDE CD-R is unhappy now. The tray goes in and out as the computer is booting up. WTF? I ended up shutting down, pulling the power out of it and restarting just to make sure that everything else was working. I haven't gone back to mess with it any more, but does anybody have any advice? Should I change it from Master to Slave (or vise versa?) Is there something in the BH6 Softmenu that might be set wrong? Right now, all I did was to set the SoftMenu to "User defined" 100MHz x9 and disabled the "speed error control" (because everybody said that's what to do)

Oh, one more thing (thirdly I guess ) When I boot up, the boot-up screen reports that my CPU is running at 901 instead of 900. Is this odd?

Thanks

 

[oldfart]

<< First of all, I had a HELL of a time getting the heatsink clipped on >>


Its tough to get the clip on, but should not be a big problem. It goes on very tight. I don't think bending was a good idea.


<< Oh, one more thing (thirdly I guess ) When I boot up, the boot-up screen reports that my CPU is running at 901 instead of 900. Is this odd? >>


Thats normal for a BH6. I dont know what to say about the CDR. Thats pretty odd. BTW, your Vcore is 1.75?

 

[cheetoden]

I took one look at that huge retail heatsink and declared it wouldn't fit the slocket. I used an old alpha 6035 I had sitting around here.

What bios are you using to get the correct speed reported? I'm using the NV and mine is reported to be 856mhz, or something close to that. CPUID says its running 901mhz, though

 

[HarryK]

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<< First of all, I had a HELL of a time getting the heatsink clipped on >>


Its tough to get the clip on, but should not be a big problem. It goes on very tight. I don't think bending was a good idea. >>


Well, it really seemed like the only option. I literally couldn't get the one side (the "Starter end" you know, the first part that you hook on easily) connected even with the CPU pulled out of the socket! It physically couldn't move any lower than a certain amount

And even after a light bend, the clip was still tight enough to scrape some plastic shavings off of the plastic "post" as I put it on. So I think I'm probably okay.



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<< Oh, one more thing (thirdly I guess ) When I boot up, the boot-up screen reports that my CPU is running at 901 instead of 900. Is this odd? >>


Thats normal for a BH6. I dont know what to say about the CDR. Thats pretty odd. BTW, your Vcore is 1.75? >>



I'll have to double check my Vcore. I left it at default, but I figured out my CDR. It's a power issue. I pulled the IDE cable but plugged the power into it and had the same problem. I also realized that it was happening as soon as I'd power up. It wasn't waiting for the RAM countdown or anything. I pulled one of my 2 HDs out and plugged the CDR back in (still no IDE cable, just the power) and it worked fine. Plugged the IDE back in and all is back to normail. I double checked my PS and it's only got a 235watt output, so I guess I'll have to upgrade that as well.

cheetoden wrote


<< I took one look at that huge retail heatsink and declared it wouldn't fit the slocket. >>



I didn't mention this, but I also had to actually pull the PS and remove the "grill" from over the fan in order to get the CPU and heatsink installed. My case has a slide out mobo tray, but the slocket with the fan/heatsink attached were to big to slide back in. So I had to wrangle the whole thing in through the space where the PS was, the slide the power supply (sans grill) carefully down into the case again.

Sheesh! No upgrade ever seems to be as easy as you'd think

Thanks