Recommended Dell U2410 settings?

[tensor9]

I just ordered this monitor, but upon reading up on it some more, I've noticed lots of complaints about the colors being oversaturated.

What are the limitations/downfalls of sRGB mode on this monitor?

How do you suggest I adjust my monitor so the reds don't burn my eyes out?

I do not have access to a Spyder calibrator.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[BrightCandle]

Tftcentral.co.UK have calibration profiles to download. In their review they tell you what settings to use on the monitor with the profile.

Its not as good as an actual calibration but it will get you closer. My main issue with the monitor is that its too bright and that can't really be calibrated away without significant contrast loss.

 

[kevinsbane]

I just ordered this monitor, but upon reading up on it some more, I've noticed lots of complaints about the colors being oversaturated.

What are the limitations/downfalls of sRGB mode on this monitor?

How do you suggest I adjust my monitor so the reds don't burn my eyes out?

I do not have access to a Spyder calibrator.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.

Did you have a specific need for the U2410 in particular? The U2412m is superior in just about every aspect - given that you don't need a card reader (or composite/component input). It's cheaper to boot.

 

[iCyborg]

Did you have a specific need for the U2410 in particular? The U2412m is superior in just about every aspect - given that you don't need a card reader (or composite/component input). It's cheaper to boot.

Umm, no.
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm

Click on the U2410 comparison link: except for having LED (advantage that is also arguable regarding PQ) it's inferior in just about every aspect: cheaper 6-bit ips panel with 8-bit internal processing vs proper 8-bit and 12-bit internal, no wide gamut, no AdobeRGB/sRGB spaces, no factory calibration, no HDMI, card-reader and some other details.

Regular user might not need or appreciate most of those, and U2412M is a fine monitor for them, but saying it's superior to U2410 in just about every aspect isn't true, U2410 is still a class above and the price reflects it.


Anyway, I have it and don't see any problems with the red color nor saturation. I also don't see the green-pink nonuniformity problems that was one of the common complaints. Slight backlight bleeding can be seen with completely black screen, but it's not noticeable in normal work. Altogether, I'm very happy with it.

 

[tensor9]

Have they fixed the sRGB dithering/static issues for the 2410?

What color setting do you use? The default one or sRGB? Have you gone through the trouble of calibrating it?

 

[iCyborg]

Have they fixed the sRGB dithering/static issues for the 2410?

What color setting do you use? The default one or sRGB? Have you gone through the trouble of calibrating it?

I think they fixed it in some later firmware. They also had some audio issues they fixed in FW.
I use default so it doesn't affect me. I didn't do any calibration.

 

[kevinsbane]

Umm, no.
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm

Click on the U2410 comparison link: except for having LED (advantage that is also arguable regarding PQ) it's inferior in just about every aspect: cheaper 6-bit ips panel with 8-bit internal processing vs proper 8-bit and 12-bit internal, no wide gamut, no AdobeRGB/sRGB spaces, no factory calibration, no HDMI, card-reader and some other details.

Regular user might not need or appreciate most of those, and U2412M is a fine monitor for them, but saying it's superior to U2410 in just about every aspect isn't true, U2410 is still a class above and the price reflects it.


Anyway, I have it and don't see any problems with the red color nor saturation. I also don't see the green-pink nonuniformity problems that was one of the common complaints. Slight backlight bleeding can be seen with completely black screen, but it's not noticeable in normal work. Altogether, I'm very happy with it.

Wide gamut is a bad thing if you don't need it.
8bit + FRC is better than 6bit + FRC, no doubt about it.
aRGB is worthless if you're just sRGB (basically everyone). Very few people can actually use aRGB - if you want the U2410, you'll need to want aRGB for it to be better than the U2412m.
The factory calibration of the U2410 is, according to TFTCentral, worse than then U2412m's factory sRGB calibration.
The contrast is worse on the U2410.
The power use is worse the U2410.
The U2412m has a better stand.
The U2412m has fewer tinting issues.
And finally, the U2412m is cheaper.

Basically... if you don't use aRGB/wide gamut, the U2412m is better in just about every way.

 

[Leyawiin]

Basically... if you don't use aRGB/wide gamut, the U2412m is better in just about every way.

If the O.P. doesn't own a colormeter I doubt he's one of the users who needs the wide gamut of the U2410. Without a tool to properly calibrate it and applications that can make use of it, what's the point?

 

[iCyborg]

Wide gamut is a bad thing if you don't need it.
8bit + FRC is better than 6bit + FRC, no doubt about it.
aRGB is worthless if you're just sRGB (basically everyone). Very few people can actually use aRGB - if you want the U2410, you'll need to want aRGB for it to be better than the U2412m.
The factory calibration of the U2410 is, according to TFTCentral, worse than then U2412m's factory sRGB calibration.
The contrast is worse on the U2410.
The power use is worse the U2410.
The U2412m has a better stand.
The U2412m has fewer tinting issues.
And finally, the U2412m is cheaper.

Basically... if you don't use aRGB/wide gamut, the U2412m is better in just about every way.

It's true and I agree that if you don't care about X, Y and Z, then U2412 is better in almost every way. I did say that in my post too. Also, from tftcentral: "Performance is overall very good and in some areas it out-performs the U2410. The U2410 still has its place though"
Some areas isn't quite 'almost all areas", unless you don't care about them. Personally I would buy 2412m today, but it wasn't available when I bought 2410. The only U2410 advantage I care is 6-bit vs 8-bit and it's what makes it a better monitor for me, but not $200 better.


@OP
U2413 is supposed to come out in the next month or two, it's probably not worth considering 2410 right now even if 2412m doesn't meet your requirements.

 

[tensor9]

From the tftcentral review, it turns out the factory calibration for sRBG is quite good, which is what I would be using anyway. If this is so, then why did I bother grabbing the 2410? It's on sale for $399 is essentially the answer. Is it worth $30 extra?

 

[kevinsbane]

The U2412m is a poor deal at $369.

You can get the U2412m ~$300 on regular sale and ~$250 on really good sales. In Canada anyways, I would think that US sales are similar.

 

[slpnshot]

The U2412m is a poor deal at $369.

You can get the U2412m ~$300 on regular sale and ~$250 on really good sales. In Canada anyways, I would think that US sales are similar.

US prices are similar. It was 295~ from amazon just last week. I believe Newegg had it for 305~. I don't recall it ever going as low as 250 within the last year. I think the lowest was 280.