Recommendations for "reasonable" Gaming Laptop

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thespyder

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So years ago I had to have the bleeding edge best of the best in my gaming machine. that explains why my current rig is still running games after almost 5 years.

these days, with work and school and travel, I don't have the time to invest in gaming that I used to. So I am not so picky as to need 1920X1080 or the best of the best of the best. I have a decent monitor that I can dock to if I am at home. And I understand that I am sacrificing something if I am not.

At the end of the day, there are a lot of good arguments on this thread to get an upgraded desktop and a low end laptop. As good as those arguments are, I am not going to do that. And no argument, no matter how convincing, is going to change my mind.

So thanks for the suggestions and the arguments. I don't see any additional suggestions forthcoming towards the intent of the thread (i.e.guiding me to a reasonable laptop) as everyone here (well intentioned as they are) seems intent on changing the direction to a debate between Laptop vs. good light cheap desktops.

but please continue the thread without me. I am sure that a lot of others will benefit from the discussions.
 
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mnewsham

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What the hell was wrong with my suggestion for laptop in the first reply?

15"
1920x1080
GTX 570m
i5 or i7 CPU
8GB RAM
2 HDD bays (comes with 1 HDD)
DVD or Bluray

What else do you want? If you have anything you really want then tell us and we can give a better suggestion.
 

thespyder

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Please note I said "thanks for the suggestions and the arguments. I don't see any additional suggestions forthcoming". thank you very much for the ones that were made. I am investigating these and some other options that have been suggested to me.
 
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Meaker10

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For a 14" - 17" display?

Not a chance.

*Cough*

Altered beast (my machine based off an MSI 16F2 barebone)

1920x1080 (15.6")
I7 2720QM ES 8MB cache (4.1% overclock using base clock)
2x4GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600mhz CL9 memory
GTX570M @ 825/1650/1800 (yes that's desktop GTX560 clocks pretty much)
2x 128GB Crucial M4 SSDs in raid0
Bluray drive + HDMI output supporting 3d bluray playback
Bigfoot killer-N 1102 Wireless

All of this at 3.4kg

*Cough*

That's not even the highest end one, you can get it with a GTX580M, which with tweaking will reach GTX560Ti desktop clocks.

The cost for a GTX580M setup with 8GB of ram and 2x750GB 7200rpm drives? $1500.

If you do want to go that route I can hook you up with someone to get you a discount most likely.
 
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God Mode

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I was replying to God Mode. His laptop has an HD 6770M.

What did you mean, though? I don't get it.

Anyway, leaving thread. OP is too close minded.

Why are you even comparing a desktop to a laptop? OP wouldn't ask for recommendation on a gaming laptop if that was the case.

I priced out a desktop and the negatives outweigh the positives in my overall requirements. In my case, gaming wasnt a high priority and a 6770m was a convenient bonus for a laptop that was in my price range.

Your line of reasoning is to insult compact cars because a jet plane is faster or how a civic sucks because it can't do 200mph.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Why are you even comparing a desktop to a laptop? OP wouldn't ask for recommendation on a gaming laptop if that was the case.

I priced out a desktop and the negatives outweigh the positives in my overall requirements. In my case, gaming wasnt a high priority and a 6770m was a convenient bonus for a laptop that was in my price range.

Your line of reasoning is to insult compact cars because a jet plane is faster or how a civic sucks because it can't do 200mph.

The OP mentioned he wants a gaming laptop, but the HD 6770M isn't really a gaming card. It's good for gaming, but it's not designed for it (though the idea of hardcore gaming on laptops is pretty stupid. I know, I had one).

But now the OP said he doesn't need a gaming laptop, that he just wants to play some games at decent settings, in which case the HD 6770M WOULD make sense.

But anyway, your laptop is not a gaming laptop so I don't get why you're offended in the first place. :rolleyes:
 

mnewsham

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Why are you even comparing a desktop to a laptop? OP wouldn't ask for recommendation on a gaming laptop if that was the case.

I priced out a desktop and the negatives outweigh the positives in my overall requirements. In my case, gaming wasnt a high priority and a 6770m was a convenient bonus for a laptop that was in my price range.

Your line of reasoning is to insult compact cars because a jet plane is faster or how a civic sucks because it can't do 200mph.

OP is buying a ferrari for $300k to use on the track and commuting instead of buying a civic for $20k and a Z06 for $100k.
 

hellfire88

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I'm kinda in the same situation as OP. And while I agree that for someone that plays PC games pretty frequently, having a separate gaming desktop + a thin/light non-gaming laptop is the best of both worlds; for me, I don't PC game nearly as frequently as I used to, but don't want to write it off completely (still fire up BF3 one or twice every 2 weeks).

I have a pretty powerful gaming desktop and a portable 13" Macbook Pro (non-gaming obviously). I find that I don't game nearly as often nowadays and usually just use my laptop in the living room so I can "spend time" with the wife (as some of you guys can relate to; the wife complaining that you hide in your computer room and don't spend time with her). Again, not wanting to rule out PC gaming (I mainly game on consoles but some multiplayer games such as BF3 are just THAT much better on PC, 64players and all) altogether, as I still fire up BF3 once in awhile, I'm looking to sell my gaming desktop and 13" MBP and just consolidate to one laptop that can handle gaming decently (medium settings etc., I'm not as picky as I used to be with "max graphics").

Not wanting to sacrifice too much in power (requirement to have quad-core CPU + decent GPU) I looked at the following models:

- Asus ROG G53/G73: A bit too bulky and heavy at 7.5-8.5+ lbs! Nice specs for the price though, good value

- Dell XPS 15: My wife has one, Amazing B+RGLED 1080p screen + speakers, but the GPU @ nVidia 540m was a bit on the weaker side for games like BF3. Love this model though.

- HP Pavillion DV6tqe: Amazing value for the price especially with HP's frequent ~30% off coupons (better value IMHO than Alienwares). i7 Quad-core + ATI Radeon 6770m/7690m (about same performance as the nVidia 555m) in a 15.6" (can get 1080p screen too!) laptop with similar/less weight that the 14" M14x. I actually had one before but sold it. The build-quality being a "consumer-grade" value-ish model is ehhh and no backlit keyboard though.

- HP Envy 15: More "premium feel" in line with Alienwares and nice specs (i7 Quad + ATI 7690m which has same-ish performance as nVidia 555m) and backlit keyboard. Around same weight as M14x while having a bigger 15.6" screen + 1080p. Almost bought this one

- Sony SA-series 13": Just had to consider this model. 13" 1600x900 screen with decent ATI 6630m GPU (its no 6770m or nVidia 555m but very decent considering the size of the laptop) while being compact and <4lbs. Only thing was no quad-core CPU available and for some reason I don't want to forego a quad-core CPU in case I need the power for whatever. This will be my only PC after all.

In the end I bought a M14x since I got a pretty good deal on it, and I've always felt that 14" laptops are the "sweet-spot" for having portability (as compared to 15.6"-17" laptops IMHO) yet also when sitting down at a desk to get work done on it, you don't feel too cramped (as compared to 11.6" - 13.3" screens IMHO). We all know how thick the M14x is but the width, being that of the average 14" laptop make it seems more portable and fits in more laptop bags! The customizable lights definitely lured me in too!

I haven't gotten my M14x yet so hopefully the 6.5lb weight isn't too bad and the 1600x900 screen is of decent picture quality (only 2 things I'm really worried about).
 

hellfire88

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Also, as posted by user "WR2" on the tomshardwarereview forums, here is a list of rough equivalents of Laptop -> Desktop video cards in terms of power:

"Laptop graphics card and roughly equivalent desktop graphics cards.

Radeon HD 6850M or GT 555M = Radeon HD 5670 desktop graphics card

Radeon HD 6870M or GTX 560M = GeForce GTS 450 desktop graphics card

GTX 570M or Radeon HD 6970M = Radeon HD 5770 desktop graphics card

Radeon HD 6990M or GTX 580M = GeForce GTX 560 Ti / Radeon HD 6870"

Not sure if it is 100% accurate but it seems reasonable. So the nVidia 555m in my Alienware M14x (a supposed gaming laptop) is equivalent to a Radeon HD 5670 on the desktop side. Pretty weak and I'm sure I'll notice a huge difference going from my HD 6970 -> 5670, but for me (and maybe OP as well) I won't be gaming on PC nearly as often as I used to (this is what I'm telling myself anyways, who knows ;) ) so getting one laptop that can game "good enough" is what I'm currently after.

Even the most hardcore gaming laptops with Radeon HD 6990M or GTX 580M are only equal to a desktop GeForce GTX 560 Ti / Radeon HD 6870 which is kinda weak for "hardcore gamers" @ 1920x1080+, so yes, for hardcore gamers a "gaming laptop" is kinda meh. But I don't really consider my usage patterns as that of a "hardcore gamer" anymore.
 

God Mode

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The OP mentioned he wants a gaming laptop, but the HD 6770M isn't really a gaming card. It's good for gaming, but it's not designed for it (though the idea of hardcore gaming on laptops is pretty stupid. I know, I had one).

But now the OP said he doesn't need a gaming laptop, that he just wants to play some games at decent settings, in which case the HD 6770M WOULD make sense.

But anyway, your laptop is not a gaming laptop so I don't get why you're offended in the first place. :rolleyes:

What is a 6770m compared to a Intel HD3000? What is the definition of a 'gaming' anything?

I can play games just fine with my machine at my acceptable levels. If you want to argue specs and max settings, people can shit on each other all day. Your 1 year old videocard? It isn't a gaming card anymore because a new 3gb monstrosity came out. You see how foolish this line of reasoning becomes? You have a very closed mind that shouldn't even be in this subforum.

Why can't you understand that some people do not want a desktop no matter how much more cost effective it is for a few tasks?
 

Phynaz

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I was replying to God Mode. His laptop has an HD 6770M.

What did you mean, though? I don't get it.

Anyway, leaving thread. OP is too close minded.

You are saying a 6770m isn't good enough for gaming. I'm saying you are wrong.
 

Tom

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Yes it's true that Anandtech forums aren't as useful as they could be. There's always people who are so DEVOTED to their tech they think it's the right thing for everyone.

Whether it's SSDs are the GREATEST thinh ever, anytihng less than 1920x1200 is trash, anyone who wants a laptop instead of a desktop(or tablet), is a moron..

That's what you get here..

But there's some good advice in with the nonsense.
 

EliteRetard

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I really want to see an IVB laptop with a 28nm GPU. If a 7970 can use 3w idle then we dont need switchable graphics. I want to see a decent quality laptop like a Dell XPS 15 or HP Envy 15 with midrange desktop graphics ability and good battery life.

Screen resolution isn't quite as important as quality. I think its pretty much fact that the 13x7 displays are of horrid quality...while half the higher res displays are actually decent. Thus the higher resolutions are more desireable so your blue isn't purple and your green isn't yellow.
 

thespyder

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Ok, so one more try here. To break it down succinctly, I work and travel a fair amount and have classes as well. Problem is, I get almost no time at home to game and a fair amount of down time away from home. Since i really used to enjoy my gaming time, which is now all but non-existant and is replaced by down time away from both home and anywhere I could use a PC, I though I would look into a Laptop.

It isn't that I don't understand and appreciate the power of a desktop. It isn't that I "don't want a gaming machine". It is that if I have a PC at home, I simply don't have the time to play on it. So if I want to game at all, i have to find a way to do it with a machine that is literally so portable that "plug in a power cable and go" or don't play at all. so sitting in my car between classes or at the airport waiting for a flight. If I need to make certain concessions to power and graphics, so long as I am not shooting myself in the foot two years down the road, I am cool with that. Because the alternative, regardless of how powerful a desktop might be, is not to game at all.

So you can see how, no matter how much of a lift a desktop can provide, if I can't access/play on it because I am away from home during my only free gaming time, it is useless. It could be that "Wierd Science" computer that could create life and launch ICBMs, or it could be HAL9000, or Skynet and it wouldn't matter. I would get more/better use out of a lesser machine simply because I can carry it with me and therefore I can actually USE it.

To take someone's analogy. yes, i am looking to buy a Ferrari for $300 (or hopefully something more reasonably priced) to drive around town in because owning a Z06 for $100 is more than useless if I don't have keys to drive it. And then the $20 Civic just won't get me where I want to go.

To put it another way, it could be a time traveling Delorean for $50 as opposed to a Yugo for 500K. If i can't drive the Delorean (no plutonium) but I can drive the Yugo (plenty of hampsters), the crap car is going to be the better deal. Translate: DeskTops might be AWE-Friggin-SOME but if I can't ever use it, what good is it?

Make some kind of sense?
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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What is a 6770m compared to a Intel HD3000?What is the definition of a 'gaming' anything?

I can play games just fine with my machine at my acceptable levels. If you want to argue specs and max settings, people can shit on each other all day. Your 1 year old videocard? It isn't a gaming card anymore because a new 3gb monstrosity came out. You see how foolish this line of reasoning becomes? You have a very closed mind that shouldn't even be in this subforum.

Why can't you understand that some people do not want a desktop no matter how much more cost effective it is for a few tasks?

I'm sorry, but *facepalm.* Missing the point entirely. It's not about performance now, but what the card was made to do when it came out.

The GTX 260M is a card made specifically for gaming, and the GT 555M is not, despite them having similar performance. Why? Because when it came out the GTX 260M was the second fastest mobile graphics card from the 200 series and it was made for gaming, and gaming only: it had a high TDP, lots of memory bandwidth, no power savings, etc. The GT 555M on the other hand is a card that's part of NVIDIA's mainstream line of the 500 series, and going by the TDP as well as where it slots in relative to the other cards in the series it's easy to see it's not a card made specifically for gaming.

Are they bad cards? Obviously not, and neither is the 6770M. As a matter of fact, those are the higher-end cards I recommend for laptops because they don't require making sacrifices when it comes to weight and battery life. Can they game well? Yes, as long as you don't set everything to High or Very High plus 4xAA. Mobile GPUs above those make no sense.

And the reason they make no sense is you need a laptop with a big chassis, a big cooling system, a very big power prick, very high power consumption and low battery life. In other words, it completely defeats the point of it being a laptop by giving you next to no battery life, thereby also forcing you to almost always be plugged in. And on top of that, they also weigh a lot. The "gaming" laptops start at around 8 pounds, and since you always need the power brick that goes up to 9-10 pounds.

And you should take me calling your laptop not being made specifically for gaming as a compliment: gaming laptops in general suck, and I know because I had one. That doesn't mean you can't game on it; I never said that. It just means it's not specifically made for gaming like the HD 6870M and GTX 560M and above, which are cards that sacrifice everything in order to get more framerates yet still get brutally beaten by even a lower-tier desktop Performance card. For people that want to game on their laptops I usually recommend Llano if they have little money or something with a Core i7 and up to a GT555M or HD 6770 if they want a machine to do everything. The OP first said he needed a laptop for gaming, which is why I dissuaded him. Then he said for acceptable gaming, and the cards I mentioned are just fine provided you don't want to run at the highest settings.

So chill out, because I never attacked you. If you feel I did, you need to go back and read what I actually said instead of making assumptions and arguments based on nothing.
 
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mnewsham

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Ok, so one more try here. To break it down succinctly, I work and travel a fair amount and have classes as well. Problem is, I get almost no time at home to game and a fair amount of down time away from home. Since i really used to enjoy my gaming time, which is now all but non-existant and is replaced by down time away from both home and anywhere I could use a PC, I though I would look into a Laptop.

It isn't that I don't understand and appreciate the power of a desktop. It isn't that I "don't want a gaming machine". It is that if I have a PC at home, I simply don't have the time to play on it. So if I want to game at all, i have to find a way to do it with a machine that is literally so portable that "plug in a power cable and go" or don't play at all. so sitting in my car between classes or at the airport waiting for a flight. If I need to make certain concessions to power and graphics, so long as I am not shooting myself in the foot two years down the road, I am cool with that. Because the alternative, regardless of how powerful a desktop might be, is not to game at all.

So you can see how, no matter how much of a lift a desktop can provide, if I can't access/play on it because I am away from home during my only free gaming time, it is useless. It could be that "Wierd Science" computer that could create life and launch ICBMs, or it could be HAL9000, or Skynet and it wouldn't matter. I would get more/better use out of a lesser machine simply because I can carry it with me and therefore I can actually USE it.

To take someone's analogy. yes, i am looking to buy a Ferrari for $300 (or hopefully something more reasonably priced) to drive around town in because owning a Z06 for $100 is more than useless if I don't have keys to drive it. And then the $20 Civic just won't get me where I want to go.

To put it another way, it could be a time traveling Delorean for $50 as opposed to a Yugo for 500K. If i can't drive the Delorean (no plutonium) but I can drive the Yugo (plenty of hampsters), the crap car is going to be the better deal. Translate: DeskTops might be AWE-Friggin-SOME but if I can't ever use it, what good is it?

Make some kind of sense?


I personally understand where you are coming from and I think a laptop is the right thing for you. My comments on desktop and laptop were said only to make it clear to you, the person spending the money, that there is a more cost effective alternative available. On this forum you don't always know if the OP is smart or reasonable. You thankfully seem to be both, a laptop for your situation is probably the best thing, while you wont get the most bang for your buck you will get a portable machine capable of your occasional gaming wants.

If money were no concern I would love a Ferrari for the track and a Bently for the road, it seems that you can only do one and don't want to mess with switching keys, a Ferrari is going to be your best bet.
 

EliteRetard

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I wrote a couple paragraphs of suggestions and comparisons ect and was going to post it, but changed my mind. The short answer really is there is no such thing as a gaming laptop. You can buy a big heavy expensive rig called a gaming laptop, but it has the same restrictions as a tiny gaming desktop. That is, you can't actually game on the go (like sitting in your car). Not only will you have no battery life but most of these gaming laptops downclock while on battery (so the games won't run good).

There is only one gaming laptop that actually has switchable graphics and useable battery life while surfing the net (3hrs) and thats the Alienware M17x. A big gnarly expensive rig...perhaps your only option. Still can't really game on the go, but with the graphics off you could at least surf the net/type notes on the go. Then when you find an outlet plug in to game. Youll need a backpack to cary it.

If you can't game on the go then why get a gaming laptop? Really, its just designed to be a portable computer (with performance and cost sacrifices to get there). But most people don't realize you can actually get a tiny portable computer...it doesnt sacrifice in performance or price, just they dont come with attatched screen or UPS (batteries).

So if you can't really game on the go but still really wan't to run your games away from home what do you do? Get a midrange laptop with a crappy low res screen. This way you can at least run your game on lower settings with the lower resolution...Spend half your money now and then the other half in a year on a newer midrange laptop when the new games come out that won't play nice on the weak GPU.

Or get a tiny PC, throw it in the same size bag as that monster gaming laptop and bring it with you to game on when youve got spare time. If you can find an outlet you can play. Borrow a screen and a real mouse and keyboard (who games on a touchpad?) and your set to go. You could even toss peripherals and a screen in the bag with the PC, they do make portable options (even USB powered).

Or rig it up in your vehicle, just buy a UPS to power the PC/Monitor (or a small generator).

Or just play games 4 years old :p
 

EliteRetard

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Oh and I am serious about that spend half your money idea...700$ will get you a laptop that can "run" your games. In a year get another 700$ laptop. Might be the best option to get something portable/useable.

Or convince someone to actually put good switchable GPUs in a reasonable laptop. Thatd be friggen awesome. Or wait for the new 28nm GPUs and hope they have good power gating.
 

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Ok I haven't thoroughly read the replies because it just seems to be a lot of bickering but here are my suggestions, based on reading too much about laptops:

Processor: i5 should be 'good enough' but to upgrade to an i7 is not that much more relative to your budget of $2000, so I would go with an i7.

My suggestion is either i7-2630qm/i7-2670qm, or i7-2720qm/i7-2760qm. In terms of what I consider reasonably priced common i7 processors, these processors would be, respectively, low+original/low+refresh , high+original/high+refresh. The upgrade from 26xx to 27xx is not insignificant, so I would say its more of a personal choice.

GPU: From what I've read, nvidia has a more mature graphics switching function (optimus vs whatever amd has... I forget) which may or may not be a concern for you. Also, personally, I find that nvidia gpus are easier to keep track of... in terms of GTX cards, it follows the form GTX xyz where x is the generation, y is the relative position within a generation and z I dont know. I only have a lowly gt 540m so I am by no means an expert, but from what I read I get the feeling that the gtx 560m is a solid card, and gtx570 would be the 'new' thing. I'm too stupid to figure out how amd card numbers work so I haven't bothered reading about them, but you should since you'll be the one who has to live with your decision.

ram: 6 gb sounds like the sweet spot for general purpose laptops with a limited budget, in my opinion. However, i feel like 4gb is the highest reasonably priced ram and in general, 1x4gb is the lowest configuration you can get for the range of laptops you are considering so I woudl recommend getting 1x4gb from the factory, if you can, and buying another 4gb stick to put in yourself. It is easy easy easy as long as you take some precautions. the first time might be a bit scary (feels like you might break something) but once u've done it a single time, you can do it every other time. Its a lot cheaper than an additional 4gb from the factory as well. A single 2gb stick is something like $10 at most, and a 4gb stick is maybe $20 at most so why not go with 8gb over 6gb. Some higher end gaming laptops (maybe most...) come with 4 ram slots so in that case, a final configuration of 4x2gb might be a bit faster than 2x4gb while also more reasonable than 4x4gb, so just keep that in mind.

gpu ram is completely separate from system ram. This is also something I ahven't looked into much, but from waht I've gathered, more ram is only needed for playing at higher resolutions, and 2gb ram is too much for gt540m =P

I would say 1.5gb video memory is good for playing at up to 1080p resolutions, and more if you plan on playing at higher resolutions/multiple monitors. Maybe 2gb for higher resolution, 3gb for multi mon? Just use this as a starting point for your research, my numbers might be out of date.

Other things you might want to consider (aka my personal ideal configuration =P ) is having a ssd as a primary drive, 128gb minimum or 256 gb if you want to splurge. Then, a secondary mechanical hard drive for storing media. Optical drive is somewhat uselss but nice to have for install/recovery cds. Don't buy vertex 2, just had one die on me =(

Better network card, either configure with most basic and upgrade yourself (more time/effort, less $$) or just configure one from the factory. Basic summary: the 1x1 or 2x2 mimo or even 3x3 you see refer to the number of input/output streams available.... make sure u have enough antennas for the number of steams your netwoirk card can handle. To take full advantage of it, you'll need a good router too. Haven't read too much into it, but I think 2x2 card with a router that has simultaneous 2.4ghz/5ghz is a nice set up.

Screen: get a 1080p resolution screen for sure. wahts the point of being able to multitask well if you cant physically fit the applications onto your tiny screen?

Keyboard: Make sure the buttons are in a layout you are comfortable with/don't mind. A switched fn/ctrl key or some bilingual monstrosity might seem like just a minor issue but it will drive you insane. I mean, almost 100% of your interaction with your computer will be through your keyboard/touchpad. Sure you can get a usb keyboard but why settle when you don't have to? Backlit is a really useful feature as well, not so much for typing but more for pressing single keys in relative darkness (like turning up or down the volume while watching a movie in the dark, keyboard shortcuts etc..) Usually not that much more, well worth the price.

Ports and stuff:
display: make sure you have what you want, especially if you are going for external monitors. Obviously you can get cheap adaptors/cables off sites like monoprice, and now you'll know to order ahead =) I bought a monitor and after it arrived, it sat around unused for a month while I waited for the cables. Learn from my mistake.

In general, display port/dvi for 'legit' monitor usage, hdmi for media monitors/tvs (with sound and stuff), vga for old technology (e.g. projectors at school).

others:
usb 2.0 should be a given, usb 3.0 looks like a good speedy general use port and thuderbolt looks good if you are willing to spend the $$. Multiple headphone jacks if you want to dabble in amateur djing. Make sure you have enough usb ports to plug in all your fancy gaming gear (laptop fan, keyboard, mouse, usb headsets etc..)

cooling/fans:
Easy. Find a laptop that you want and google "laptop xyz fan noise" or "laptop xyz overheating problem". Read every relevant result on the first few pages and avoid laptops with problems that you don't think you can live wuith.


ok finally after all that, the most important aspect of all: brand.
Now, there are many brands that I do not know much about and even less that I've tried or had first hand experience with so most of my recommendations will be from what I read online.

Quick summary:
Dell - the 'safe' option... 3 year acidental warranty covers almost everything. Conservative, although heat seems to be an issue. Pricing isn't too bad, easy to get discounts. Flashy. For gaming, look at alienware models: www.dell.com/ca/Alienware

Asus - Good reviews all around, great on cooling, more powerful than Dell and lower pricing. Apparntly good customer service/warranties as well but haven't really looked into it. For gaming, look at republic of gamers models: http://rog.asus.com/notebook/

Clevo - Basically they make modular laptop parts for customizing laptops easily and then resellers (sager is a well known one around here) build/rebrand their own configurations. Out of the three, these laptops should have the best price:performance ratio but reliability I'm not so sure of. Definitely get any warranties if you go this route - my friend had his sager die a week outside of his one year warranty so that sucked for him. Not sure about heat... although I suppose it probably won't be as good as the asus.

That's all for now
 

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I'd seriously look into the MSI 16F2 barebone with GTX580M with a budget of $2000.

You can get a lot for that budget including the highest quality notebook panel out atm (AUO matte V4 95% colour gamut).

I have a contact in powernotebooks who can get you the best deal possible.
 
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I'd seriously look into the MSI 16F2 barebone with GTX580M with a budget of $2000.

You can get a lot for that budget including the highest quality notebook panel out atm (AUO matte V4 95% colour gamut).

I have a contact in powernotebooks who can get you the best deal possible.

I think the 580 is a bit over kill... i mean yes with 2k he can afford it but i dont think the extra cost is worth the marginal gains in performance.

How much is it to go from 570 to 580 anyways? I checked out that powernotebook site and it costs $400 to upgrade...