Recommendations for a high CFM Case?

I'm looking at increasing the maximum airflow so I can overclock my system better without having the clutter of cables to ruin my day and consequently my system. The case I am looking for must have a very high CFM rating of 200 or more, preferably more (stock of course). This in turn will help my watercooling system do its job more effectively and allow me to overclock higher. So far Im looking at the Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T but if theres something better than that out there and has more room for cables and hardware I am all ears.
 

Noubourne

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Cases don't have CFM dude. Fans do. Good cases are good because they have good airflow and good sound dampening characteristics. If you want the highest airflow, I would suggest getting one of those horrifically gaudy gimmick cases with the 250mm fan on the side panel.

And cases don't really have any significant wires either. It's all the stuff you put in it that does.

Also, your link is broken.
 

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Originally posted by: Noubourne
Cases don't have CFM dude. Fans do. Good cases are good because they have good airflow and good sound dampening characteristics. If you want the highest airflow, I would suggest getting one of those horrifically gaudy gimmick cases with the 250mm fan on the side panel.

And cases don't really have any significant wires either. It's all the stuff you put in it that does.

Also, your link is broken.

those hugh fans dont give out 200cmfs. lol... i cant think of many fans that dish out 200 cmfs. Im assuming that u dont care for noise. LOL...

Okey here are my initial recomendations.

1. Panflo's these have to be the best budget noise to cmf ratio fans out there for high cmf's. these are one of the 2 fans prefered on high performance loud watercooling radiators.

2. Sunons. Another recomended.

3. Vantec Tornado 92mm its about 130cmf's


ummmm take note that all these fan's CAN and WILL take your finger off if u have them at full speed.


Why not just watercool with a cheap external kit like corsair nautilius500. Its 149.99, but sometimes you can find them on sale for 129.99 Or Petratech has watercooling sets that start at 140 and is gaurentee'd to spank any air cooling out there without the need of super high cmf fans. Consult the search function of this forum if you want more info. Search watercooling question and tons of threads will pop out.

All the kits I listed above will perform better then a tuniq tower and you only need 1 fan built into the external or mounted on the rear/front intake of your case. If you want better coolingon the external, swap the radiator in the external kit to a black ice GTS. look at dragonmods.com for a nice pictures on how its done.

or you can PM the mod directly. His name nick is dampeal.
 

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Noubourne
Cases don't have CFM dude. Fans do. Good cases are good because they have good airflow and good sound dampening characteristics. If you want the highest airflow, I would suggest getting one of those horrifically gaudy gimmick cases with the 250mm fan on the side panel.

And cases don't really have any significant wires either. It's all the stuff you put in it that does.

Also, your link is broken.

those hugh fans dont give out 200cmfs. lol... i cant think of many fans that dish out 200 cmfs. Im assuming that u dont care for noise. LOL...

Okey here are my initial recomendations.

1. Panflo's these have to be the best budget noise to cmf ratio fans out there for high cmf's. these are one of the 2 fans prefered on high performance loud watercooling radiators.

2. Sunons. Another recomended.

3. Vantec Tornado 92mm its about 130cmf's


ummmm take note that all these fan's CAN and WILL take your finger off if u have them at full speed.


Why not just watercool with a cheap external kit like corsair nautilius500. Its 149.99, but sometimes you can find them on sale for 129.99 Or Petratech has watercooling sets that start at 140 and is gaurentee'd to spank any air cooling out there without the need of super high cmf fans. Consult the search function of this forum if you want more info. Search watercooling question and tons of threads will pop out.

All the kits I listed above will perform better then a tuniq tower and you only need 1 fan built into the external or mounted on the rear/front intake of your case. If you want better coolingon the external, swap the radiator in the external kit to a black ice GTS. look at dragonmods.com for a nice pictures on how its done.

or you can PM the mod directly. His name nick is dampeal.

Reading comprehension guy. I said 250mm, not cmf. And I wouldn't say cmf anyway, because I know it stands for Cubic Feet per Minute, not Cubic Minutes per Foot.

And I own a 105CFM Panaflo, and it does NOT take off fingers, even at full speed.

Maybe you should stick to watercooling.
 
I dont appreciate the hostility in this thread, if you have some issues Noubourne i suggest you work them out elsewhere. But its not uncommon for cases to have a stock CFM rating (if they come with fans that is). Thats the CFM rating I am looking for, and for the case, I'd prefer not to go over $200. I need to get rid of my current case since I am running short on space with it.
 

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Originally posted by: Noubourne
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Noubourne
Cases don't have CFM dude. Fans do. Good cases are good because they have good airflow and good sound dampening characteristics. If you want the highest airflow, I would suggest getting one of those horrifically gaudy gimmick cases with the 250mm fan on the side panel.

And cases don't really have any significant wires either. It's all the stuff you put in it that does.

Also, your link is broken.

those hugh fans dont give out 200cmfs. lol... i cant think of many fans that dish out 200 cmfs. Im assuming that u dont care for noise. LOL...

Okey here are my initial recomendations.

1. Panflo's these have to be the best budget noise to cmf ratio fans out there for high cmf's. these are one of the 2 fans prefered on high performance loud watercooling radiators.

2. Sunons. Another recomended.

3. Vantec Tornado 92mm its about 130cmf's


ummmm take note that all these fan's CAN and WILL take your finger off if u have them at full speed.


Why not just watercool with a cheap external kit like corsair nautilius500. Its 149.99, but sometimes you can find them on sale for 129.99 Or Petratech has watercooling sets that start at 140 and is gaurentee'd to spank any air cooling out there without the need of super high cmf fans. Consult the search function of this forum if you want more info. Search watercooling question and tons of threads will pop out.

All the kits I listed above will perform better then a tuniq tower and you only need 1 fan built into the external or mounted on the rear/front intake of your case. If you want better coolingon the external, swap the radiator in the external kit to a black ice GTS. look at dragonmods.com for a nice pictures on how its done.

or you can PM the mod directly. His name nick is dampeal.

Reading comprehension guy. I said 250mm, not cmf. And I wouldn't say cmf anyway, because I know it stands for Cubic Feet per Minute, not Cubic Minutes per Foot.

And I own a 105CFM Panaflo, and it does NOT take off fingers, even at full speed.

Maybe you should stick to watercooling.

Originally posted by: AzureNightmareX1
I'm looking at increasing the maximum airflow so I can overclock my system better without having the clutter of cables to ruin my day and consequently my system. The case I am looking for must have a very high CFM rating of 200 or more, preferably more (stock of course). This in turn will help my watercooling system do its job more effectively and allow me to overclock higher. So far Im looking at the but if theres something better than that out there and has more room for cables and hardware I am all ears.

Thank you very much, he's talking about watercooling as well... And i said a 250mm Fan wont push out 200+ CMF that you can get on a DC voltage.

And a High CMF panflo will take your finger off. It cut my friends finger almost down to the bone when he was messing with it.

And if you got a problem with me little kid, take it in PMs. Its not fair flooding the post with usless posting that dont relate to the topic.


Anyhow op, u dont need a high cmf fan if your h2o cooling, unless u plan on using a radiator thats ment for high cmf. Even then the performance difference between the two radiators are best within 3-5C actual, and sometimes even less depending on how many blocks you have in your loop.


Simple end of comment would be, unless ur TECing, and a hotplate you need to cool, you wont need a high CMF radiator. A thermochill will even outperform some high CMF rads, and its ment for Low CMF.

If your picking a case due to watercooling, id first find one thats more friendly for you to install all your parts in, and not make a hugh mess. If the radiators mounted in the front, who cares how much CMF you get, as long as you meet with the radiators BTU capacity. Personally id go for a large case like the stacker where you can mount the radiator at the bottom and have medium to low fans blow up to your board. Or an Armor class and mount the radiator in the front. If you need advice on mounting for any of the two cases, drop me a PM, and i can link you to some of my setups.

Panflo has 114.7CMF noob

thats the highest output panflo i can find and thats the one that almost took my friends finger off. So please get at least 1 bit of info right noob.

Also here is my proof you dont need high CMF fan to get uber cooling.

Ambient was 60F 30min ORthos performed and RTHDRIBL on 7900GT clocked to about 570mhz / stock 450.
Here

I think thats the range of temps your looking for :D
 

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I think something like the new Aerocool Zero Degree would cool most any system just fine. All you would need is one low and slow 120mm to push breeze across the HDDs.

.bh.
 

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Well, I don't know your budget but take a look at the Thermaltake Eureka or the Silverstone SST-TJ05 or maybe the iStar Nitro series. And I also have always liked this case. I had the Silverstone Berserker version of it two cases ago but I liked this version better (with the small window and shiny Titanium finish). iStar also sells it but pre-loaded with one of their fancy PSUs

.bh.
 

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that statement i directed wasnt ment at you op.

My post where i was a bit rude was ment at norborne for bashing my statement. And i used your first post to show ive been on topic.

Ive been trying to help you find a solution to fan's and your watercooling setup. If you feel i am not helping i will not participate anymore in your thread, that is fine by me as well.

But i would like to answer your comment on the mozart. Dont get it. I saw one up close at frys the other say. Its big... a bit too big for it to be a computer case. It would look nice if it was next to a TV however. But for practical reasons i would stay away from it.

If your looking for a big nice case to support a watercooling option, PM me as i will then continue to help you, otherwise good luck on your build.

My Qualifications on my Large case with integrated H2O cooling.

Peace, and good luck once again..


<for clearification purposes, i seriously am meaning good luck.. and not directing it in a sarcastic manner>
 

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My suggestion is that you don't buy a case for the "CMF" rating, since fans are replaceable. The rating isn't for the case, but for the fans that come with it.

You buy a case with 120mm holes in it, and as many as possible if you're looking to get the highest amount of airflow possible.

The highest airflow fans are made by manufacturers who do not also make cases. Fans that come with cases are usually crap.

You will need to buy a case, probably for about $100-150 depending on your taste, and then start shopping around for high CFM fans to blow air through it. As mentioned, Panaflos are well known for their high CFM ratings, Delta as well I believe. They aren't going to be quiet at the top of the CFM spectrum though. In any case, even these fans are unlikely to run you more than $12-15 a pop.

I've got a couple of undervolted 80mm Panaflos doing exhaust work in my current case, and it's a nice mix to lower the speed with a fan controller and then crank them up when I need the extra flow.
 

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The Antec 900 seems for have a lot of potential for fan-power: 1x200 on top, and 4x120 total for front, side and rear, plus a fifth internal 120. $135 at Newegg.

The Enermax Phoenix (ECA3092 at Newegg) has front/rear 120's and a side 250, and is only $70.

The Silverstone TJ09 supports 5x120 fans and will have lots more space, but is in a different price class: $260 at Directron.
 

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Originally posted by: LintMan
The Antec 900 seems for have a lot of potential for fan-power: 1x200 on top, and 4x120 total for front, side and rear, plus a fifth internal 120. $135 at Newegg.

The Enermax Phoenix (ECA3092 at Newegg) has front/rear 120's and a side 250, and is only $70.

The Silverstone TJ09 supports 5x120 fans and will have lots more space, but is in a different price class: $260 at Directron.

Yeah, the Antec 900 will dry your laundry and is quiet, roomy and looks good. If you arrange all the fans in the right direction it might even hover, put a hose on it and it can Hoover.
 

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Originally posted by: Cardio
Originally posted by: LintMan
The Antec 900 seems for have a lot of potential for fan-power: 1x200 on top, and 4x120 total for front, side and rear, plus a fifth internal 120. $135 at Newegg.

The Enermax Phoenix (ECA3092 at Newegg) has front/rear 120's and a side 250, and is only $70.

The Silverstone TJ09 supports 5x120 fans and will have lots more space, but is in a different price class: $260 at Directron.

Yeah, the Antec 900 will dry your laundry and is quiet, roomy and looks good. If you arrange all the fans in the right direction it might even hover, put a hose on it and it can Hoover.


AHAHAHAHAHAHA... thats what i have to say about your statement.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

:p


And i already recomended the op a antec900. I also recomended him doing a custom duct job on a p180. If you duct the top hard drive bay, it connects exactly to the video card.

He's cooling the CPU though a EXOS, so he doesnt really require that much flow over the cpu. At most a light breeze to cool his power regulators and other stuff. These two would be his best choices in cases that can support large amounts of high velocity CMF fans.

As for overclocking? thats all on your CPU stepping, with ram combo, motherboard, and power supply. a CCBBE 0612 EPWM, would pwn almost any chip on AIR. And on water... well u guys seen my benchmarks for my opty. She's CCBBE 0617 EPWM. And lets not get into CCBWE VPMW's Those things all oc to 3.0ghz without even skipping a breathe.
 

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The antec nine hundred is only $80 after mail-in rebate at CompUSA (After $25 mail-in). I picked one up today. Another case that I would recommend that you look at if you are looking to push a lot of air and need some room to work with is the Cooler Master Stacker. It has accomodations for up to nine 120 mm fans and is solidly constructed with plenty of room to work with and is available in:

Black http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119121
Silver http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119103