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recommendation for a PCI DirectX 9.0, please

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dxpaap

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looking for a card that support s Direct x9.0 on a P4 based system with only PCI bus - looking to play DoomIII & Macks Pain II

thanks in advance
 
Originally posted by: dxpaap
looking for a card that support s Direct x9.0 on a P4 based system with only PCI bus - looking to play DoomIII & Macks Pain II

thanks in advance
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Um you could try ATI 8500, 9000, or 9100, or perhaps the 9200. The 9200se has a pci version, but I would not recommend it. I don't know if you can find a pci version of the Ti4200, I would strongly recommend that. Otherwise there is the GF4mx and fx5200 with pci versions, both of which aren't that great. Anyhow, I probably would not recommend running doom 3 on a pci card, although you might be able to run it at the lowest settings. Max Payne 2 (I assume you mean this game) I've never played, but it will probably run fairly well with the cards above.
 
AFAIK those cards (mentioned above minus the FX5200, if there is a PCI version of it) don't have DX9 hardware support & even if there are PCI based DX9 cards on the market, it wouldn't be powerful enough to even handle DX9 from the getgo.
 
Originally posted by: dxpaap
looking for a card that support s Direct x9.0 on a P4 based system with only PCI bus - looking to play DoomIII & Macks Pain II

thanks in advance
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As AnonymouseUser said, there is no PCI graphics card that can run these games.

Also, you probably have an emachines POS machine with an original P4 chip (the slow >2 Ghz series... pre-Northwood), so your CPU probably isn't great either. Very few machines sold within the last five years lack an AGP port.

The (only) "DX9" card (albeit with a partial featureset) is the underperforming GeForce FX 5200 series.

The best card you can get for PCI is a Radeon 8500/9100, but they are still both DX8 cards and are considerably slower than even middle-end AGP cards.
 
Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: Mloot
PCI card review


For now, the best PCI cards are the Radeon 9100 PCI and the FX 5600 PCI and 5700LE PCI.
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Those 3 are all 5200's if you look at the chipset. They do atleast have a 128bit memory interface though. so it might not be half bad to go with the 5600 one as all the 5700 has is another 128MB of memory which is a waste.
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I have to disagree. The 9100 is definitely NOT a 5200. And the 5600 and 5700 are also NOT 5200's. I've actually owned the 5600 PCI and I can tell you that it has a 5600 chipset, and the 5700LE PCI is a brand new PCI card with a 5700 chipset. The part on the web site that shows that it has a 5200 chipset is really just a typo.

 
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
There is no PCI graphics card that can run these games.
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sure one can
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No, it can't

Nvidia has provided me with a latest generation Quadro FX 600 card, derived from the company's GeForce FX 5200
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The FX600 is just an FX5200 with 256MB of DDR on a 128-bit bus (7.8GB/s bandwidth) and tuned for high-end OpenGL apps.
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it was a joke...... i would have never suggested a $600 card for gaming.....
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

it was a joke...... i would have never suggested a $600 card for gaming.....
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Obviously 😛. Still wouldn't work though. If it was a PCI FX5900 or something than maybe it would be a tad different (but still a total waste of money).

It's pretty clear that there's only one true solution here: buy a new system with AGP.

Sigh, all those suckers who buy Dells thinking they are getting a "great deal" . You cannot get a great deal on a Dell, even if it is a bit cheaper than the norm, it will always be a Dell; a far cry from an 'Enthusiast's' system...
 
Originally posted by: Mloot
Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: Mloot
PCI card review


For now, the best PCI cards are the Radeon 9100 PCI and the FX 5600 PCI and 5700LE PCI.
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Those 3 are all 5200's if you look at the chipset. They do atleast have a 128bit memory interface though. so it might not be half bad to go with the 5600 one as all the 5700 has is another 128MB of memory which is a waste.
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I have to disagree. The 9100 is definitely NOT a 5200. And the 5600 and 5700 are also NOT 5200's. I've actually owned the 5600 PCI and I can tell you that it has a 5600 chipset, and the 5700LE PCI is a brand new PCI card with a 5700 chipset. The part on the web site that shows that it has a 5200 chipset is really just a typo.
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Yeah sorry I obviously didn't mean the 9100.... I was just going by what the store said they were... and wouldn't be suprised if they were 5200 chipsets in the least.
 
You can find a P4 platform mobo w/ an AGP slot for not a lot of Bank. Then get yourself at least an 9600 Pro/XT if you want to play those games decently. We are running DoomIII decently with a 9600XT. Any PCI VidCard is going to be Bus-limited, no matter which one you use.
 
well, thanks for the helpfull advice as usual - I mean that 🙂

Unfortunatly, this was a $300 deal from Dell Business site - mentioned on the "hot deal" fourm last month. For the money not bad, its a homework system for my grade school son. Was building him a better one, but ran into technical problems and school begining - so resorted to doing something fast.

It has onboard video but I figured, I could slap in a DX9 video card - but was shocked to findout the Dell didn't have an AGP bus !!! Silly me for not noticing before ordering.

anyway, shame on me - thanks for the discussion

 
Originally posted by: dxpaap
well, thanks for the helpfull advice as usual - I mean that 🙂

Unfortunatly, this was a $300 deal from Dell Business site - mentioned on the "hot deal" fourm last month. For the money not bad, its a homework system for my grade school son. Was building him a better one, but ran into technical problems and school begining - so resorted to doing something fast.

It has onboard video but I figured, I could slap in a DX9 video card - but was shocked to findout the Dell didn't have an AGP bus !!! Silly me for not noticing before ordering.

anyway, shame on me - thanks for the discussion
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Look inside it and verify that the slot is not there. Dell has been known to claim that a system doesn't have AGP, when in fact, the board does.
 
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Look inside it and verify that the slot is not there. Dell has been known to claim that a system doesn't have AGP, when in fact, the board does.
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That is highly unlikely. Their basic business machines rarely do, and even some mid-range machines are lacking an AGP slot.
 
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