Recommend me a i5 CPU for my budget Mainboard

[john5220]

Hi this is my MB

http://www.amazon.com/ECS-Elitegroup...words=ecs+1150

whats the best i5 CPU that I can run on it?

I bought a PEntium G 3220 but it struggles to run games that recommend quad core cpu

 

[AllWhacked]

Pretty much any i5 or even i7 Haswell will work. The best i5 though would be an i5-4670.

It might support the Haswell-refresh with a BIOS update, though the ECS website doesn't state it supports them yet.

 

[Techhog]

Pretty much any i5 or even i7 Haswell will work. The best i5 though would be an i5-4670.

It might support the Haswell-refresh with a BIOS update, though the ECS website doesn't state it supports them yet.

You mean i5-4690.

And yes, i7s would work. If you happen to have a Microcenter nearby, get an i7 (Haswell of course)

 

[john5220]

i7 won't be of any use to me as it is games I am playing and HT I heard is useless in games

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-...-4&keywords=i5

will this work on my board?

I am also scared to buy a too expensive CPU in the event say 4 years from now my mainboard blows, can you imagine the cost to replace a MB in the future?

I regret not getting a MB with solid cap capacitors I usually run a PC for 8 years before upgrading.

 

[erunion]

4590 would be a good choice, especially if you have a microcenter near you.
I recently got a 3570 from there for my wife's ITX.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/432161/BOX_INTEL_CORE_I5-4590

 

[Techhog]

i7 won't be of any use to me as it is games I am playing and HT I heard is useless in games

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-...-4&keywords=i5

will this work on my board?

I am also scared to buy a too expensive CPU in the event say 4 years from now my mainboard blows, can you imagine the cost to replace a MB in the future?

I regret not getting a MB with solid cap capacitors I usually run a PC for 8 years before upgrading.

If you want to keep it for 8 years, that makes spending a bit more for an i7 seem even more logical. Games are beginning to use more than 4 threads. However, it's up to you. That CPU should work fine, but this is better. Make sure you update your BIOS before upgrading and keep your current CPU handy until you know that it works.

 

[frozentundra123456]

What games are you playing and what is the gpu that you are using?

 

[TeknoBug]

i5 4440 would do if you're looking for cheap i5's, but I'd go with what others said if you plan on using that system for a long time- get an i7, perhaps even the i7 4771 if you want to do some extra stuff like virtual desktop in VMWare or VirtualBox. Don't get a K version CPU with that motherboard.

 

[sm625]

Make sure you update the bios first if you go for one of the newer i5.

 

[john5220]

guys I am playing Marvel Heroes. It needs 4 cores to run properly maybe more.

The thing is I taught Hyper Threading does not work in video games?

Does this then mean I could buy a i3 and get to use it as a quad core?

 

[Techhog]

guys I am playing Marvel Heroes. It needs 4 cores to run properly maybe more.

The thing is I taught Hyper Threading does not work in video games?

Does this then mean I could buy a i3 and get to use it as a quad core?

Some games benefit from hyperthreading, and others don't. However, HT can never fully make up for actual cores. Don't get an i3 if you want to keep this for so long though; you'll run into the same problem you're running into now in 1-2 years.

 

[john5220]

oow I see. hmmm

Someone on Marvel Heroes forums did a screenshot of task manager running the game and atleast 6 threads were seen running. If I am buying a i7 CPU I would need a new motherboard with solid cap capacitors to ensure it lasts atleast 10 years.

I wonder though whats the cheapest mainboard with the best durability?

 

[john5220]

here is the picture of someone running marvel heroes with task manager open

does this mean MH supports atleast 6 threads?

 

[Techhog]

here is the picture of someone running marvel heroes with task manager open

does this mean MH supports atleast 6 threads?

Can't really say without knowing background processes. One of those cores is under very low load, though, and the requirements only recommend two cores.

Let's take this from a different angle. What graphics card do you have, how often do you upgrade that, and how much do you game?

 

[AtenRa]

I will try the Core i3 4330 in the week end and let you know. What GPU do you have and what Resolution ??

 

[john5220]

Hi I have a HD 4870 512MB video card its a very bad card in this day and age.

However I intend to replace it with a used R9 270x or non x

If you guys can show me a i3 running Marvel heroes with all 4 threads active with the task manager and tell me the minimum FPS with a bunch of other players on screen I Would appreciate it

This means I could save myself the cash on a i5

 

[skipsneeky2]

Take it from me, if you got the cash for a i5 and want to cheap out and buy a i3 just do yourself a favor and get the i5.

Once i had a i3 2100 and while it was good for some games, others i regretted the purchase and soon enough i was already buying a i5 2500 non k which is the current chip i sit on. At the time of getting the i3 i thought i would give up a bit more cpu to gain gpu and well that bit me in the ass when i upgraded the gpu later on and ended up being bottlenecked in half my games anyways.

 

[john5220]

thanks I will get myself a i5

But my friend tells me that my $40 H81 chipset mainboard will cripple a i5 he says its a rubbish mainboard and a i5 won't run at full potential.

Is there any truth to this?

 

[USER8000]

thanks I will get myself a i5

But my friend tells me that my $40 H81 chipset mainboard will cripple a i5 he says its a rubbish mainboard and a i5 won't run at full potential.

Is there any truth to this?

AFAIK,the motherboard will be fine,but the cheaper motherboards tend to be smaller than mATX and only have two RAM slots,which limits expansion(this is why I would spend more on a motherboard).

If I were you I would try and get at least a low end Core i5. It should last you(hopefully) a few years.

 

[Zardnok]

To comment on the K-Series processors for an investment needing to last 8 years, I would absolutely buy the K-Series CPU now. Your current Mobo does not support overclocking, but it also will likely not last you 8 years. I would expect it to need to be replaced in the next 3-4 years at which time you will still be able to find decent replacement boards, especially of the used variety. Also in 3-4 years when you are having to replace your motherboard, the best deals you are likely to find are current Z87 boards which do support overclocking. You would then be able to buy a used replacement board and overclock your CPU to give you an extra measure of performance to keep up with game needs. Also if you are the sort to sell used equipment, the Market for a used K-Series CPU will be double than of a non-K, so factor that in as well.

NOW, if you want to cut your upgrade schedule in half, then I would just go with whatever i5 fits your budget and do the same thing again in 4 years only then buying a nicer motherboard/CPU combo that will last longer. This might allow you to invest more money into a nicer video card which is probably your whole problem in the first place, but your question was about CPUs.

As for the H81 crippling an i5, I am an enthusiast, I overclock, so it is not a board I would use, but it will work and is hardly crippled. Just know going in there is no overclocking available and it will work fine.

 

[AllWhacked]

You mean i5-4690.

And yes, i7s would work. If you happen to have a Microcenter nearby, get an i7 (Haswell of course)

No I meant i5-4670. The i5-4690 is a Haswell Refresh and currently his motherboard does not have a BIOS update to make it work.

 

[AllWhacked]

i7 won't be of any use to me as it is games I am playing and HT I heard is useless in games

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-...-4&keywords=i5

will this work on my board?

I am also scared to buy a too expensive CPU in the event say 4 years from now my mainboard blows, can you imagine the cost to replace a MB in the future?

I regret not getting a MB with solid cap capacitors I usually run a PC for 8 years before upgrading.

I would not buy that CPU yet until ECS makes a BIOS update or officially adds Haswell Refresh as supported CPUs for your board. Currently the list of supported CPUs can be found on the ECS website under the CPU tab:

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=1501&CategoryID=1&MenuID=172

If you want the cheapest i5 I can currently find, you can get the i5-4440 at Newegg for $175 after $20 off coupon.

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-942-_-Product

Coupon Code: MEMRDY8

It expires today.

You can also find the same deal at TigerDirect and use their $15 off $100 coupon. It'll save you money if you don't have to pay sale tax there versus Newegg.

As for using a cheaper motherboard throttling your CPU, that's nonsense. If you're not overclocking or using the added features on a more expensive motherboard, there really isn't any need to get a fancy z87/z97 chipset board.

 

[MagickMan]

Hi I have a HD 4870 512MB video card its a very bad card in this day and age.

However I intend to replace it with a used R9 270x or non x

If you guys can show me a i3 running Marvel heroes with all 4 threads active with the task manager and tell me the minimum FPS with a bunch of other players on screen I Would appreciate it

This means I could save myself the cash on a i5

Check out fleabay right now for 2-3 month-old XFX R9 280x miners, $210-$230 w/ a transferrable lifetime warranty.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=R9+280x+xfx&_sop=15

 

[john5220]

Guys I put marvel heroes on all super low all settings on LOW and I go down to 30 fps when plenty stuff is happening on the screen

This is how I concluded my CPU is at fault, my card is a HD 4870 512MB. Surely this is more than enough to get constant 60 fps in this game on low?

Though I admit this 4870 stinks in comparison to modern cards. But I can't see how this card can go lower than 60 when the min requirements for this game is a HD 3870

 

[AllWhacked]

Guys I put marvel heroes on all super low all settings on LOW and I go down to 30 fps when plenty stuff is happening on the screen

This is how I concluded my CPU is at fault, my card is a HD 4870 512MB. Surely this is more than enough to get constant 60 fps in this game on low?

Though I admit this 4870 stinks in comparison to modern cards. But I can't see how this card can go lower than 60 when the min requirements for this game is a HD 3870

Upgrade your graphics card first. You will see much more performance gains for your money than upgrading your CPU. This is well supported by many many benchmark tests.

I used to have a HD4850 on an e8400 OC at 3.6GHz. As a point of reference your G3220 performs as fast or faster than an e8400 overclocked to 4GHz. That being said I saw HUGE performance gains when upgrading my 4850 to a GTX470. I went from being only able to play Fallout 3 at 1280 x 800 graphics with maxed details to playing 1920 x 1080 with maxed details. I went from playing Crysis at 1280 x 800 with medium details to playing 1920 x 1080 with high details. Before I upgraded my e8400 I even had a 7970 and was able to play Crysis at 1920 x 1080 with ultra details whereas before I couldn't. Despite being a dual core, your G3220 is still a formidable processor.

Here are a few reviews:

Hexus.net - http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/68797-intel-pentium-g3220-22nm-haswell/?page=7

Look at the bottom and you'll see in the chart the performance difference between the G3220 when paired with a GTX 750 Ti playing at 1920 x 1080 is only with 1fps difference between an i7-4770K. Or only 6fps difference on multi-core titles like Rome Total War II.

LegitReviews - http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g3220-processor-review_137016/6

In the second review, you'll see that while the G3220 suffers in games that are better optimized for multi-core, when paired with a good graphics card you're still getting playing framerates.