recommend cheap HTPC

RKS

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I am buying an Antec Fusion so I have the case and PSU. I also have a budget 32" LCD and a Blue-Ray/HD optical drive.

I need recommendation for a motherboard, cpu, memory, and video card.

I want to be able to play blue-ray/hd but the cheaper the better.
 
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GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

$79.99

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G

$23.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH5050DOBOX

$62.99

 

RKS

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

$79.99

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G

$23.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH5050DOBOX

$62.99

thanks, so the onboard video is robust enough for full HD?

edit: I assume I will also get audio out with the HDMI port?
 
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From what I've read, yes on both counts. I don't have any first-hand experience, I've been contemplating a new HTPC and this is what I had in my newegg cart.
 

mcveigh

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

$79.99

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G

$23.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH5050DOBOX

$62.99

agreed
 

s44

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ABSOLUTELY WRONG

The only onboard solution to consider for Blu-Ray is Nvidia. AMD integrated limits you to DD/DTS sound over HDMI, not the full (lossless) surround PCM that Nvidia's 8200/8300/9300/9400 allows.

Recommending 780G is a reflex reaction that is at least a year outdated.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: s44
ABSOLUTELY WRONG

The only onboard solution to consider for Blu-Ray is Nvidia. AMD integrated limits you to DD/DTS sound over HDMI, not the full (lossless) surround PCM that Nvidia's 8200/8300/9300/9400 allows.

Recommending 780G is a reflex reaction that is at least a year outdated.

what is your recommendation for a budget HTPC?

 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: s44
ABSOLUTELY WRONG

The only onboard solution to consider for Blu-Ray is Nvidia. AMD integrated limits you to DD/DTS sound over HDMI, not the full (lossless) surround PCM that Nvidia's 8200/8300/9300/9400 allows.

Recommending 780G is a reflex reaction that is at least a year outdated.

This point is moot if he doesn't have an HDMI receiver. Also, note that the 780G does not deinterlace well without an AM2+ or AM3 processor. If you watch 1080i OTA content, for example, then the only onboard solution you should be looking to is the 9300/9400 with an E5200.

I recommend going to this thread on avsforum. It's a massive (i.e. > 6k posts) thread with tons of information and HTPC system recommendations. For the HTPC I built a month ago, I spent $109 (after rebates and cash back) on the motherboard, processor, RAM, and video card. Here's what I bought:

Abit AN-M2 motherboard: $32
AMD retail BE-2300 (1.9 GHz dual-core): $37.99 - $5 CC - $1.04 CB = $31.95
9500GT video card: $64.99 - $6.50 CC - $1.61 CB - $20 MIR = $36.88
4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 RAM: $51.98 - $4.50 CB - $40 MIR = $7.48

I overclocked that processor to 2.66 GHz, which will be plenty of juice since the 9500GT has HA (hardware acceleration), which takes the video load off of the cpu. If you don't want to try to hunt down deals like that or if you have an HDMI receiver, then I'd recommend the following Intel/Nvidia low-end recommendation from renethx on avsforum:

microATX:

* CPU: Pentium Dual-Core E5200 2.50GHz LGA775, $64.
* CPU Cooler: Stock cooler, $0.
* Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-E7AUM-DS2H LGA775 GeForce 9400 mGPU microATX, $130. A cheaper alternative is MSI P7NGM-Digital LGA775 GeForce 9300 mGPU microATX, $110, which is of better value if you don't need an S/PDIF port and an eSATA port.
* Memory: A-DATA ADQVE1A16K DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $27.
* Graphics Card: GeForce 9400 (integrated in the chipset), $0.
* HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps, $70.
* PSU: 80 PLUS 350W ATX PSU (included in the case), $0
* Case: Antec NSK1480 microATX, $94.
* Total Cost: $385

ATX:

* CPU: Pentium Dual-Core E5200 2.50GHz LGA775, $64.
* CPU Cooler: Stock cooler, $0.
* Motherboard: EVGA 113-YW-E115-TR LGA775 GeForce 9300 mGPU ATX, $110.
* Memory: A-DATA ADQVE1A16K DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $27.
* Graphics Card: GeForce 9300 (integrated in the chipset), $0.
* HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps, $70.
* PSU: Corsair VX450W CMPSU-450VX 450W, $57.
* Case: SilverStone Lascala LC17 SST-LC17B ATX, $119.
* Total Cost: $447.

Those should do everything you want them to. The only reason to spend more on a system is if you want to do a lot of intensive post-processing quickly (I plan to let my system run its post-processing jobs overnight, so that's a non-issue) or if you want to play current games. The system I built would play games well and have HDMI audio by using a 4670 video card, so that's another option for you.

Edit: I copied the wrong ATX recommendation.
 

abaez

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: s44
ABSOLUTELY WRONG

The only onboard solution to consider for Blu-Ray is Nvidia. AMD integrated limits you to DD/DTS sound over HDMI, not the full (lossless) surround PCM that Nvidia's 8200/8300/9300/9400 allows.

Recommending 780G is a reflex reaction that is at least a year outdated.

This point is moot if he doesn't have an HDMI receiver. Also, note that the 780G does not deinterlace well without an AM2+ or AM3 processor. If you watch 1080i OTA content, for example, then the only onboard solution you should be looking to is the 9300/9400 with an E5200.

I recommend going to this thread on avsforum. It's a massive (i.e. > 6k posts) thread with tons of information and HTPC system recommendations. For the HTPC I built a month ago, I spent $109 (after rebates and cash back) on the motherboard, processor, RAM, and video card. Here's what I bought:

Abit AN-M2 motherboard: $32
AMD retail BE-2300 (1.9 GHz dual-core): $37.99 - $5 CC - $1.04 CB = $31.95
9500GT video card: $64.99 - $6.50 CC - $1.61 CB - $20 MIR = $36.88
4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 RAM: $51.98 - $4.50 CB - $40 MIR = $7.48

I overclocked that processor to 2.66 GHz, which will be plenty of juice since the 9500GT has HA (hardware acceleration), which takes the video load off of the cpu. If you don't want to try to hunt down deals like that or if you have an HDMI receiver, then I'd recommend the following Intel/Nvidia low-end recommendation from renethx on avsforum:

microATX:

* CPU: Pentium Dual-Core E5200 2.50GHz LGA775, $64.
* CPU Cooler: Stock cooler, $0.
* Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-E7AUM-DS2H LGA775 GeForce 9400 mGPU microATX, $130. A cheaper alternative is MSI P7NGM-Digital LGA775 GeForce 9300 mGPU microATX, $110, which is of better value if you don't need an S/PDIF port and an eSATA port.
* Memory: A-DATA ADQVE1A16K DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $27.
* Graphics Card: GeForce 9400 (integrated in the chipset), $0.
* HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps, $70.
* PSU: 80 PLUS 350W ATX PSU (included in the case), $0
* Case: Antec NSK1480 microATX, $94.
* Total Cost: $385

ATX:

* CPU: Pentium Dual-Core E5200 2.50GHz LGA775, $64.
* CPU Cooler: Stock cooler, $0.
* Motherboard: EVGA 113-YW-E115-TR LGA775 GeForce 9300 mGPU ATX, $110.
* Memory: A-DATA ADQVE1A16K DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $27.
* Graphics Card: GeForce 9300 (integrated in the chipset), $0.
* HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps, $70.
* PSU: Corsair VX450W CMPSU-450VX 450W, $57.
* Case: SilverStone Lascala LC17 SST-LC17B ATX, $119.
* Total Cost: $447.

Those should do everything you want them to. The only reason to spend more on a system is if you want to do a lot of intensive post-processing quickly (I plan to let my system run its post-processing jobs overnight, so that's a non-issue) or if you want to play current games. The system I built would play games well and have HDMI audio by using a 4670 video card, so that's another option for you.

Edit: I copied the wrong ATX recommendation.

Thanks for this really great post.
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: mcveigh
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

$79.99

Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G

$23.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 45W Dual-Core Processor Model ADH5050DOBOX

$62.99

agreed

+1

Don't pay attention to the FanBoys. You may use analog multichannel PCM from your PC speakers or output to the multichannel inputs on your receiver. If you don't have a receiver or 5.1 PC speakers and want to use the audio from the TV speakers, what does it matter?

And besides, what they won't tell you is that IF you require 8-channel LPCM over HDMI you may purchase an HD 4350 for $40
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Don't pay attention to the FanBoys. You may use analog multichannel PCM from your PC speakers or output to the multichannel inputs on your receiver. If you don't have a receiver or 5.1 PC speakers and want to use the audio from the TV speakers, what does it matter?
Not all receivers have multi-channel analog inputs.

And besides, what they won't tell you is that IF you require 8-channel LPCM over HDMI you may purchase an HD 4350 for $40
In this case, the OP may as well just hold out for an eeeBox 206.
 

s44

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Fanboys? Lol, who's defending the obviously deficient solution? 780G has no advantage over 8200/8300/9300/9400 and one very noticable disadvantage, so there's no point in using it.

Edit: actually, two disadvantages -- 780G won't do 1080p24 either.
 

s44

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See kalrith's link above. It's not that it won't do regular 1080p, it just won't do 1080p at 24 frames per second -- movie speed. Just not a feature any ATI chipsets have, IIRC.

This only matters if you have a 120hz LCD or 72hz plasma or the like, but again... why lose a feature when you don't gain anything?
 

alcoholbob

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What media players can actually stream 8 channel PCM? On AVSforum with media player classic anyway, the only option for high def audio was real-time conversion to separate FLAC stereo streams for each set of analog outputs...which takes a lot of power.
 

RKS

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I just bought this Text. Does it really matter what type of motherboard I buy now? My local Microcenter has some cheap mATX boards like Text.
 

s44

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Originally posted by: RKS
I just bought this Text. Does it really matter what type of motherboard I buy now?
No. I guess this is now a HTPC/gaming machine. :p