Recommend a ~30-32" TV

[Slickone]

Looking for a good quality, good priced 4x3 CRT TV around 36". Any recommendations?

Edit: Looking at ~30-32" CRT or ~30"-40" LCD now. Updates below.

 

[Soccerman06]

wrong forum

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
wrong forum

Its the correct forum.

There is a running thread with 30+++ CRT TV's currently.

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
wrong forum

Its the correct forum.

There is a running thread with 30+++ CRT TV's currently.

Unless rbV5 plans on using this as a computer monitor, it should really be in general hardware, iirc there was a thread about this topic a few years ago.

 

[ND40oz]

Aren't many left in that size as most manufactures have left the >30 inch market to direct view LCDs and Plasmas. Sony still has 2 36" 4:3s and their 34 inch widescreen XBR. They range from 1000 to 1500 retail though, how much are you looking to spend?

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
wrong forum

Its the correct forum.

There is a running thread with 30+++ CRT TV's currently.

Unless rbV5 plans on using this as a computer monitor, it should really be in general hardware, iirc there was a thread about this topic a few years ago.

Video
Discussion about Video Products

General Hardware
General Computer Hardware Discussion. This is the place to discuss the latest computer hardware issues and technology. Please keep the discussion ON TOPIC, and covering computer hardware ONLY.

I don't see where the video forum dictates that the discussion must be about computer video products, but General Hardware appears to limit to Computer hardware, but if you say it was discussed a few years ago in a thread.........

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Slickone
Looking for a good quality, good priced 4x3 CRT TV around 36". Any recommendations?

4:3? Might be possible, look for Monivision or Princeton Graphics.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: ND40oz
Aren't many left in that size as most manufactures have left the >30 inch market to direct view LCDs and Plasmas. Sony still has 2 36" 4:3s and their 34 inch widescreen XBR. They range from 1000 to 1500 retail though, how much are you looking to spend?

We're looking at the Sony on page 16 of HH Gregg's weekly ad for $800. Is that the cheapest I'll find? Forgot to mention wanting HD. Looking on their website in the
Digital TVs 30" - 45" section, the one I see on page 3 says it's SDTV, but the flyer says HDTV. Why?


For watching 4x3 TV shows, I was thinking a 16x9 screen rating is comparable to a larger rating for a 4x3 since the 16x9 uses the wide with as part of it's size rating so the height is a lot shorter than the same size rating 4x3 screen. Make sense? ie. I would have to get say a 40 something inch 16x9 TV to have the same height as a 36" 4x3 TV.

This TV is not for me and I think the person watching it will be mosting watching 4x3 shows, but I'm not sure how much is broadcasted in each format not. I know they won't be watching DVDs. I originally posted about it here, but accidentally put in the wrong forum.

 

[Ichigo]

Never get a 4:3 HDTV. It just doesn't work.

 

[Slickone]

Why doesn't it?

 

[Avalon]

I'm also in a similar boat. I'm looking for a 30" CRT TV, up to about 36/37" due to budget constraints. But, I'm looking for a 16:9 set. Any recommendations?

I've looked at the Sony Wega Trinitron 30", and Samsung Dynaflat 30" sets, but was wondering what else is out there and what's good for the buck. Wouldn't mind buying used, either.

 

[TheRyuu]

The Sceptre 37in. One of the greatest monitors ever.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: wizboy11
The Sceptre 37in. One of the greatest monitors ever.

The only Sceptre 37" I can find is an LCD.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: wizboy11
The Sceptre 37in. One of the greatest monitors ever.

The only Sceptre 37" I can find is an LCD.

I know, it's a 37in. LCD. You can get them for around $1300. Does native 1080p.
Guess it really doesn't help OP/you if your looking for a CRT

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Ichigo
Never get a 4:3 HDTV. It just doesn't work.

Odd, mine works just fine. 1080i looks just as sharp as a plasma if not better. True it's not widescreen, but once a movie gets going I don't notice the letterboxing.

Of course on widescreen TV's normal broadcasts are either letterboxed or stretched.

 

[Jodym2]

I love my Sony KV-32HS I got it at Fry's electronics a demo model for $1100 a few years ago. I got the LG DVD Digital Tuner and pick up over the Air Hi-Def here in L.A. CA we got more than 50 Channels. It works well with my computer Via DVI @ 1166X662 underscan so I can see the start Button.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Slickone
Why doesn't it?

Because HD reses are all widescreen, so not only will an HD image be bordered on it, it will also be much lower resolution than it should be. However, if you were using it as a PC display for games and general desktop usage, 4:3 would be fine.

 

[EvanAdams]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: Slickone
Why doesn't it?

Because HD reses are all widescreen, so not only will an HD image be bordered on it, it will also be much lower resolution than it should be. However, if you were using it as a PC display for games and general desktop usage, 4:3 would be fine.

True

I have a 36" Sony non HDTV and was happy with it... untill I had to move. What a pain in the rear end. So Heavy and takes so much space.

 

[Slickone]

You can't pick up HD from regular cable TV, correct? If not, then most of the viewing on this TV will probably be non-HD, so I'm still thinking 4x3 would be best.

If using an antenna for over the air HD, how hard is it (for a senior citizen) to switch back and forth between that and the CATV channels?

Will all TV broadcasts be widescreen soon?

In a few years from now, we'll all have to have digital TV's, correct? But they won't have to be HD?

 

[EvanAdams]

Originally posted by: Slickone
You can't pick up HD from regular cable TV, correct? If not, then most of the viewing on this TV will probably be non-HD, so I'm still thinking 4x3 would be best.

You need digital cable to get HD via cable.

If using an antenna for over the air HD, how hard is it (for a senior citizen) to switch back and forth between that and the CATV channels?

not hard

Will all TV broadcasts be widescreen soon?

All HD broadcasts are supposed to be in widescreen. All TV broadcasts (over the air) are supposed to switch but you can count on law being changed again. Congress is not going to force the entire country to buy millions of breakout boxes.

In a few years from now, we'll all have to have digital TV's, correct? But they won't have to be HD?

You wont beable to buy a non HD TV in a few years. I would NOT buy a digital non HD tv. That is a bad investment. However, if this is for a senior you honestly should consider a non HD tv. they probably wont live to see the 100% switch over. I consider the usefull life of a TV to be 8-10 years.

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[beggerking]

walmart has them for ~$400 the last time I was there..

I think its a sanyo brand...which is pretty good.

does HDTV too. 4x3

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: EvanAdams
You wont beable to buy a non HD TV in a few years. I would NOT buy a digital non HD tv. That is a bad investment. However, if this is for a senior you honestly should consider a non HD tv. they probably wont live to see the 100% switch over. I consider the usefull life of a TV to be 8-10 years.

Well the thing is, we're thinking HD would be easier for someone to see who has bad eyesight. Or maybe not? But I would think the more clear it is to begin with, the less fuzzy it would appear to the person's bad eyes. Fuzzy to begin with would end up even more fuzzy.
Also, this person is my grandmother, so when she does pass away, the TV would end up being my fathers, and considering he's still using an SD 27" Sony probably 10 years old, he'll need the HDTV by then anyway.


So what if we increased the price we could pay, to get a widescreen (any type) HD larger than 32"? Any suggestions?

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: beggerking
walmart has them for ~$400 the last time I was there..

I think its a sanyo brand...which is pretty good.

does HDTV too. 4x3

I looked at Wal Mart today as a matter of fact and yep they had this Sanyo 32" 4x3 SDTV CRT for $417, but besides obviously being lower res, the picture was fuzzy. Do all SDTV's have a fuzzy picture when fed an HD signal? I've noticed this in other stores too (Target, Circuit City). Some look fuzzy while ones right next to them are very clear. Maybe at least with that Sanyo at Wal Mart, it was in my mind since it was surrouned by HD's I think.
But I know on a friend's large widescreen CRT HD (Panasonic I think), I was trying to watch something on VH1 Classic and it looked terrible, VERY fuzzy/blocky. I assume this is because VH1 Classic is SD? The HD stuff looks great on it. He has Comcast Digital.

They also have this Sanyo 30" widescreen HDTV CRT for $478, but as I was trying to describe earlier, being widescreen, it's just not tall enough.
And this SANYO 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV for $900.


Also I also noticed of all the 20" LCD's, the Emerson was much more clear than the 3 better names next to it, Sanyo, Philips, and Samsung(?). Aren't Emerson products supposed to be crap? All were widescreen except the Philips.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Slickone
You can't pick up HD from regular cable TV, correct? If not, then most of the viewing on this TV will probably be non-HD, so I'm still thinking 4x3 would be best.

If using an antenna for over the air HD, how hard is it (for a senior citizen) to switch back and forth between that and the CATV channels?

Will all TV broadcasts be widescreen soon?

In a few years from now, we'll all have to have digital TV's, correct? But they won't have to be HD?

1. Correct, no HD for regular cable. Anyhow, your viewing habits may be different from mine, but I can put up with a bordered TV image (and most people don't mind it stretched) over limiting the quality of movies and games. The TV signal will look crappy no matter what, so I don't really care.

2. You should just be able to hit a button on the remote to switch between analog and digital, but I know senior citizens that can't even use a remote. Oh, and to have both, you'll need a signal combiner if you don't want to be swapping cables. (or a switch would work if you'd like to press a button to switch, or if you have an external tuner then the cable may plug into that.

3. In a few years from now, all signals will be digital, you can either get a digital tv or just a digital tuner. And correct, they don't have to be HD, but all the major networks will be. And most of the signals will be widescreen as well.

walmart has them for ~$400 the last time I was there..

I think its a sanyo brand...which is pretty good.

does HDTV too. 4x3

I think I know the TV, and I'm pretty sure it's widescreen (if you're talking about the HDTV one that runs about $480). Very hard to find a 4:3 hdtv these days. Walmart should have a philips tv for a bit more ($50 to $100 more) that should be noticably better in quality. (even if it still can't touch a sony)

Well the thing is, we're thinking HD would be easier for someone to see who has bad eyesight. Or maybe not? But I would think the more clear it is to begin with, the less fuzzy it would appear to the person's bad eyes. Fuzzy to begin with would end up even more fuzzy.

More importantly, digital signals have no static. Over the air digital signals look better than cable, even when not hd.

So what if we increased the price we could pay, to get a widescreen (any type) HD larger than 32"? Any suggestions?

If you're going that big, I'd get an LCD or plasma and not a CRT. CRTs get really really heavy and large and unwieldy at those larger sizes.

Do all SDTV's have a fuzzy picture when fed an HD signal?

Are you sure it's an HD signal? Plus it's split between all the TVs in the store so it's weaker.

Also I also noticed of all the 20" LCD's, the Emerson was much more clear than the 3 better names next to it, Sanyo, Philips, and Samsung(?). Aren't Emerson products supposed to be crap? All were widescreen except the Philips.

I'd focus more on price and underlying technology (LCD, CRT, plasma) than the brand. If you get something that's cheap, it will be crap, regardless of the brand.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Slickone
I looked at Wal Mart today as a matter of fact and yep they had this Sanyo 32" 4x3 SDTV CRT for $417, but besides obviously being lower res, the picture was fuzzy. Do all SDTV's have a fuzzy picture when fed an HD signal? I've noticed this in other stores too (Target, Circuit City). Some look fuzzy while ones right next to them are very clear. Maybe at least with that Sanyo at Wal Mart, it was in my mind since it was surrouned by HD's I think.
But I know on a friend's large widescreen CRT HD (Panasonic I think), I was trying to watch something on VH1 Classic and it looked terrible, VERY fuzzy/blocky. I assume this is because VH1 Classic is SD? The HD stuff looks great on it. He has Comcast Digital.

They also have this Sanyo 30" widescreen HDTV CRT for $478, but as I was trying to describe earlier, being widescreen, it's just not tall enough.
And this SANYO 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV for $900.


Also I also noticed of all the 20" LCD's, the Emerson was much more clear than the 3 better names next to it, Sanyo, Philips, and Samsung(?). Aren't Emerson products supposed to be crap? All were widescreen except the Philips.

ahh.. a few month ago they had a square 32" or 34"? HDTV which was pretty good... but I ended up buying a DLP...

CRT HD won't be as good as LCD or DLP or plasma when displaying HD, but it shouldn't be bad either.. did you try Frys? they still sell tons of CRTs.