Recent threats and warnings against US of A

[gevorg]

Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

 

[blackangst1]

Sabre rattling FTW

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Probably because we are perceived as steadily weakening due to that quicksand trap called Iraq, plus China knows that that the US needs it more than they need us because of our cheaper is better mentality also known as greed.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

For the same damn reason the USA gives warning to countries like Iran. If you play the game,
you have to expect that others will play it too.

Or do you think its my country right or wrong? And therefor the US can do it but others can't.

It still boils down to either mind your own business or pretend the facts don't exist with out of sight out of mind don't even think it censorship.

The point being, if the US still had the moral standing GWB pissed away, US statements would have far more credibility. It may not elevate the Turkish and Chinese Statements, but the US
is now demoted to the same league. Call it little boy who cried wolf syndrome.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Why does the US think they can give warnings and threats?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

This is nothing new. Political posturing like that has been going on since prostitution - erm sorry, I mean politics - was invented.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

 

[biostud]

Turkey is part of NATO........

 

[First]

Iraq.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

It has little to do with our military status and much more to do with the perception of our reputation on the world stage. Regardless, it's nothing more than a bit of political machismo because even with our military currently stretched neither China, Russia, nor especially Turkey would dare tangle with us.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

I can count on one hand the countries we *couldnt* wipe of the planet in a moments notice. Stretched thin? Sure. But not able to defend ourselves? Hardly.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

And which country has moral authority? Moral authority and the moral high ground are copouts because morality is based on perception and belief. You're beliefs and morals may differ from mine or some guy living in Zimbabwe. I'm tired of hearing this crap about moral highground and whatnot.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

Yeah. That's why Switzerland is such an influential player molding policy on the international stage.

:roll:

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

Might does not make right, but might usually does keep people from pointing out when you're wrong... haha.

China has been very vocal and sabre-rattley for the last 50 years or so, so this is nothing new. Turkey feels like they have us over a barrel right now, so their government can push back some now and not look so much like a US puppet as their support for our operations in Iraq is hugely unpopular there. There is something to the moral authority you mention, as the US's stature in the world has really diminished in recent years after this unprovoked invasion, but if we had succeeded I don't think you would be hearing the same trash talk from other countries right now.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

Might does not make right, but might usually does keep people from pointing out when you're wrong... haha.

China has been very vocal and sabre-rattley for the last 50 years or so, so this is nothing new. Turkey feels like they have us over a barrel right now, so their government can push back some now and not look so much like a US puppet as their support for our operations in Iraq is hugely unpopular there. There is something to the moral authority you mention, as the US's stature in the world has really diminished in recent years after this unprovoked invasion, but if we had succeeded I don't think you would be hearing the same trash talk from other countries right now.

LOL I love "sabre-rattley"

 

[StageLeft]

There is something to the moral authority you mention, as the US's stature in the world has really diminished in recent years after this unprovoked invasion, but if we had succeeded I don't think you would be hearing the same trash talk from other countries right now

Yep, the US should not be surprised at the badmouthing. Heck, we do it internally so shouldn't be surprised other countries are doing it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Topic Title: Recent threats and warnings against US of A
Topic Summary: from turkey, china, etc

Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Welcome to P&N

How dare these Countries question the mighty GOP led U.S. of A.

 

[Oric]

gevorg is Armenian, I am not suprised at all that he portrays Turkey as an enemy of USA. The Armenian diaspora in United States is a blood rival against Turkey and Turks for something they believe which is far from truth

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...5/AR2007101501323.html

 

[manowar821]

Might does not make right, it just scares people.

 

[FoBoT]

yeah, China , Turkey and Russia can all go screw themselves

 

[DarkThinker]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

...If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

No really? First it was the war on Iraq, then it became the war on "Terrorism", now it's the war on Islam?? What's next? Am I to head to the nearest Ohio concentration camp for "Muslims Who Did Not Realize They Are At War With Their Own Country"?

To answer the OP, with people in power with no more wisdom than Sinsear has, no wonder no one fears the United States anymore...

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: DarkThinker

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

...<If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

No really? First it was the war on Iraq, then it became the war on "Terrorism", now it's the war on Islam?? What's next? Am I to head to the nearest Ohio concentration camp for "Muslims Who Did Not Realize They Are At War With Their Own Country"?

To answer the OP, with people in power with no more wisdom than Sinsear has, no wonder no one fears the United States anymore...

I get your point, but you kinda wrote it wrong. First it was war on terror, THEN war in Iraq. The war on Islam was created by the Muslims themselves.. Not our government.


Which pretty negates your next paragraph.

Alleged scriptural evidence for the existence of the alleged war is found in ahadith, one of the most popular ones that supposedly prophesizes a war against Islam "is the so-called Tradition of Thawban":

An early modern example of belief in the alleged war is the book Qadat al-gharb yaquluman: dammiru al-Islam, ubidu ahlahu (Western Leaders Are Saying: Destroy Islam, Annihilate All of Its People) written by Jalal `Alam and published in 1977. [4]

Evidence of the strength of the belief can be found in opinion polls that found as of late 2006/ early 2007, strong majorities -- at least 70% -- in the Muslim countries of Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, and Indonesia, answering "yes" to the pollsters' question: do you believe the United States seeks to ?weaken and divide the Islamic world??,

Muslims who use this term generally point to the Crusades and European colonization of their lands as an example of an attempt to destroy the Muslim way of life. More recently, Western support for Israeli occupation of Jerusalem and the continued existance of the State of Israel has been criticized

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Because our military is stretched thin at the moment. If we were not fighting the global War on Islam, some of these countries would think twice before provoking us.

Totally idiotic and boils down to might makes right. When what a country is saying really depends on moral authority.

And which country has moral authority? Moral authority and the moral high ground are copouts because morality is based on perception and belief. You're beliefs and morals may differ from mine or some guy living in Zimbabwe. I'm tired of hearing this crap about moral highground and whatnot.

You do not deserve America, Sinsear. This country was founded by people who were willing to die for their belief in the universality of morality and the existence of Creator granted inalienable rights, morals so basic and fundamental that even monkeys have them. What you are is a sophistical intellectual divorced from all understanding of your self, a lost soul who does not feel. Moral authority is the most powerful force in the human universe because it is innate and he who calls to truth will be heard against any and all odds.

The truth will out and that is an absolute. If there were no truth there would be no misery and there's tons and tons of that. The soul suffers because of our separation from God. We may hate what makes us suffer but we also long for relief. Nothing can stand before the will of God and nothing can make Him go away.

 

[gevorg]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: gevorg
Why do countries think that they can give warnings and threats to US nowadays? First, its these turks with their denial of genocide, and now China with their Tibet issue? Who's next, Zimbabwe?

Why does the US think they can give warnings and threats?

When did US gave warnings and threats to turkey and china? Turkey is our NATO "ally", and China is a major economic partner. As long as the country did not hit the low bottom (Iraq/n, North Korea, etc), US is diplomatic to them and does not use any threats.