Recent 2500 Barton purchase? On air? What're you getting?

[MichaelD]

I need an upgrade fix to tide me over for awhile. NF7-S is finally under $100. 2500 Bartons are $75. Seems like an ideal time.

Did you buy one recently? Past few weeks? From Newegg?

On Air?

What are you getting? 2.20GHz at least, I hope.

 

[Falloutboy]

well I didn't get a 2500 desktop but I did get a 2400 mobile from newegg and got 2.52 on Air on crappy memory. not bad for an 84 dollar chip

 

[Gamingphreek]

I recently bought a barton. But i believe AMD has begun locking their processors so you had better hurry. I have mine OCed to 2700+ speeds which is 2.002GHZ. This chip is prob the best Athlon XP chip on the market right now. Make sure you have good memory tho. I would highly recommend the high performance models of any maker but i would stay away from Kingston Value RAM. Also make sure to get PC3200 or PC2700 anything higher is a waste. If you do that the 2500+ will perform like a dream! Good Luck
Kevin Boyd

 

[OrenSam]

Most of the ppl that tried to OC their 2500 got to 3200 speed (2.2 GHz) without many problems, getting higher speeds is harder... (it's almost sure the Barton you'll buy will have a locked multiplier)
sadly, PC2700 RAM probably wouldn't be enough here, because it's 166 fsb, and you need to raise your voltages significantly in order to get your CPU to 200 fsb.
if you have PC3200 though, you can get 2.2 GHz even with AMD's stock cooling and default voltages. to get any higher you'll have to buy some better heatsink and fan (Thermalright would be my choice). You'll also have to raise voltages beyond factory defaults.

just for the record - I'd like to declare the barton 2500+ and the Abit NF7-S the perfect OC budget combination today.

 

[MichaelD]

Thanks guys!

Falloutboy525, that's an INSANE overclock! :Q I haven't read much about people using the Mobile XPs...got any links to some reading? Is it the same Socket A, 462 pin package? I don't know...

Xplaya/Orensam, thanks for your input too. I am well aware of the memory and voltage requirements. See "Money Pit" rig in my sig.

I've got the memory and cooling covered. I'm almost positive my Corsair XMS3200C2 memory will do more than 200MHz, but I"ve never been able to test it since my current motherboard, Epox 8RDA+ Rev1.0 won't do more than 202MHz before crashing and burning.

I have no problem raising the voltage to 1.800v...I've gone higher, but don't like to...things get too toasty for me when idle temps are 50C!

So folks are getting 2.20GHz out of these chips at STOCK VOLTAGE? :Q Daaaang, I think I'm ordering tonight.

I'm at 2.00GHz now. 2.300GHz would be so much better though!

I really want an A64 rig, but I'm waiting for the NF3250 to finally show up AND all the bugs to be worked out. I.E. the Rev 2.0 boards...figure end-2004.

Thanks again.

 

[Avalon]

Bought my 2500+ a few weeks ago. It's multiplier locked and only reaches 185 FSB (XP 2700+) unless I give it an unnecessary ammount of extra juice
I run it @ 2.0 ghz on air, and I'm fairly pleased, yet a little dissapointed at the same time
I'm also curious about these mobile bartons...what's up with them?

 

[pillage2001]

Michael. If you haven't buy a CPU. Get the mobile 2400 or 2500 NOW!!!!!!!!!

 

[Falloutboy]

go to forums.amdmb.com and go to the overclocking forum. Mine is a fairly mild overclock for a mobile some guys are doing 2.7 on air one guy did 3ghz on water

 

[CdnAtWork]

I just bought my 2500 last week and although it's locked, i'm getting stable at 2.2 with one case fan, a Vantec Aeroflow and some Arctic silver 5. Coming from 1ghz athlon, i'm extremely happy!

 

[MichaelD]

Thanks guys! I will check out the Mobile XP on the Amdmb forums.

 

[bootoo]

Yeah, amdforum boys know what they're talking about with the mobiles' I've got my non-mobile to 203x11 now stable and they have theirs to something like 10x220; fantastic o/clocks over there.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: bootoo
Yeah, amdforum boys know what they're talking about with the mobiles' I've got my non-mobile to 203x11 now stable and they have theirs to something like 10x220; fantastic o/clocks over there.

Believe me, I'm reading as fast as I can...this just CAN'T be the best-kept secret in the AMD-World.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: bootoo
Yeah, amdforum boys know what they're talking about with the mobiles' I've got my non-mobile to 203x11 now stable and they have theirs to something like 10x220; fantastic o/clocks over there.

Believe me, I'm reading as fast as I can...this just CAN'T be the best-kept secret in the AMD-World.

It is cause newegg is the only place having it.

 

[Falloutboy]

yup and newegg knows that judging by the upward trend in pricing. i'm just glad I got in when it was 79 for 2400

 

[BigFatCow]

wow, i think im gonna sell my 2500+ barton and get a 2500+ mobile barton. My current 2500+ gets 3200+ easily.

 

[Elcs]

My mobile Barton 2500+ is stable at 200x11.5 @ 1.75V actual. I dont like increasing the voltage any more but I think i could get 210x11.5 with another small increase of Vcore.

2300mhz feels kinda disappointing considering some reach 2.6-2.7 but I like my chip the way it is... ~40C idle and up to 45C load.... SLK900A and 92mm L1A. Quiet and effective.

 

[MichaelD]

So, the Mobiles are multi-unlocked? Any probs getting your "regular Socket A" mobo (NF7-S/8RDA+/etc) to recognize them and go to their default voltage of 1.450v?

 

[SithSolo1]

I got mine in early Jan. Week 43. 2.3ghz(11x210) @ 1.775v

I'm starting to eye those mobile chips though.

 

[MichaelD]

Yes indeed, those mobile chips are interesting! However, after doing a lot of reading and thinking...I have no desire to run a 1.450v chip at 2.500 volts or whatever just to squeeze another 20MHz out of it.

I mean, I actually USE my system for gaming, surfing and paying bills. Currently, I don't have a "benchmarking box" that runs balls-out 24/7 and if it blows up, so be it. I'm what I call a "Cautious Overclocker."

I've got a 2.000GHz rig right now that idles at 38C...can't do much better than that on air.

Damn...I wish there were "guaranteed steppings" out, like when I bought my current CPU, XP2100. Everyone knew what the magic stepping was, and when Newegg had it in stock, the word went out.

These days w/the 2500 Bartons, it seems to be hit or miss, ESPECIALLY b/c the multi is locked. :disgust:

 

[Tango57]

I just got my 2500 OEM from Newegg just a couple of weeks ago for $85. I tried overclocking to 2.2 but it crashed on me. So far I've been able to get it up to 2.09.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Tango57
I just got my 2500 OEM from Newegg just a couple of weeks ago for $85. I tried overclocking to 2.2 but it crashed on me. So far I've been able to get it up to 2.09.

What the heck are you doing? Why are you overclocking? Did you not read your own sig?

It REALLY seems to be hit or miss with these 2500 Bartons....I may just crawl back under my rock and wait until the end of the year when the Rev2.0 NF3-250 boards will hopefully be out.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Just don't get the impression that going 2500+ to 3200+ is a sure thing and be very dissapointed if yours doesn't reach it. But what's a hundred MHz here and there? Not that noticable and still great value from a cheap little chip.

 

[adams828]

got mine in dec, does 2.2 on stock cooling, 1.7 vcpu. definitely not a guaranteed thing, but likely. make sure you don't do like some ppl on here and try and get 400fsb using pc2700 or w/out trying to bump cpu/mem voltage at all

 

[Tiorapatea]

I just ordered a Mobile Barton - I'm in the UK. Seems it's a Week 40 2500+ so not likely a record-breaker. Reports are better on Week 47 and newer but I'm not sure we have enough (any?) unbiased statistical data to lend such reports validity. Still, newer must be better, right?!

But consider this. I paid a $15 premium for a chip that is multiplier-unlocked and has a stock voltage that is 1.45V compared with 1.65V for the desktop parts. There is otherwise no difference between it and a desktop part, except for two irrelevant factors - the stock FSB is 133 but you can change this and I think that maybe there is more power management logic in there but desktop motherboards cannot take advantage of this, at least not without a Bios revision that will not likely materialize. AMD has next to no technical specifications for these chips on its site so it's hard to know all the details.

There is no problem with motherboards recognizing these chips.

Just don't buy the Low Voltage version of the XP-Ms because these have a different packaging and will not fit Socket A. However, I doubt you would ever see these for sale except maybe on Ebay.

 

[MichaelD]

Nice post, Tiorapatea

Well-written.

What's scaring me off is that people are really getting widely varying results...no "sure thing" these days. I'd be mighty pissed off if all I got was 2.20GHz. Consider that I'm at 2.00 now, and this chip can do 2.10 with 1.850v (which is too high for my tastes) and you can see why I'm hesitant.

I want a guaranteed 2.40GHz, darnit!