Recap of discussion with CEO of PC Power & Cooling

[Rubycon]

recap of interview

He goes on slamming modular supplies.

Losing 100W? Can his $100k fancy tester actually PROVE this?

Ok the connectors that EVERYONE has on their HDD, DVD, etc. are the SAME right?

We need to end this debate once and for all.

 

[Ayah]

Bah. Too lazy to download this. Pretty sure you don't lose 100W on connectors though.

 

[Rubycon]

The discussion was ok up to the point of modular. I just don't agree with him on this.

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: Ayah
Bah. Too lazy to download this. Pretty sure you don't lose 100W on connectors though.

You win the gold medal for lazy. Downloading takes no effort at all but listening to it on the other hand... which I didn't so maybe I can at least take the bronze.

If a connector is causing significant loss of power than it is flawed. Sans flaw, one would think any concern should be with superfluous length or insufficient gauge.

 

[Rubycon]

Well the problem I have with his comparison to adding two feet of cable is he's basically saying if you took a 850W PS and made the leads on everything two feet longer it would effectively be a 750W PS! :Q

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Well the problem I have with his comparison to adding two feet of cable is he's basically saying if you took a 850W PS and made the leads on everything two feet longer it would effectively be a 750W PS! :Q

Maybe if the wires were 30 AWG...

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Howard

Maybe if the wires were 30 AWG...

Or nichrome.

 

[John]

You would figure that one of the industry leaders in PSU's would have supporting documentation for his claims. I really don't see how you could lose 100w through modular connectors. If that were the case we'd have seen the calculations and supporting data years ago. Maybe Mr Fox can post a thread calling PCP&C out now.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: John
You would figure that one of the industry leaders in PSU's would have supporting documentation for his claims. I really don't see how you could lose 100w through modular connectors. If that were the case we'd have seen the calculations and supporting data years ago. Maybe Mr Fox can post a thread calling PCP&C out now.

Nah......That would be entirely to mundane for me.......

The Dude from PCP&C defintely stuck his tit in the wringer there, and I agree with all here.

Most good modular connector designs come from Automotive, or Aerospace based connectors. (IE: Keeper Clips etc.) The environmental demands there far exceed the interior of 99.99% of Consumer Cases.

And they totally avoided the issue of cracked wires in a non-moduar supply. I have 20-30 psu's that are fully functional but the delivery end of the wiring harness is dis-functional...

PCP&E seems to apply engineering lessons learned well....

The unfortunate issue with ATX PSU's is that most Manufacturing, is slowly moving to Mainland PRC and that there is not a solid set of standards, that apply to these components that are in a State of Flux at this time in terms of Market Growth, and More Demanding Amperage loads.

It then becomes tough for the PSU Suppliers to properly manage their build houses. and this is because of distance, and volume in the pipeline from here to there..
If there is an issue with a build, or a batch you end up with Quality Control, rather than Assurance.. The consumer ends up sorting the product, because to sort at this end of the pipeline would be cost prohibitive.

 

[Rubycon]

So when is Jonny Guru going to their facility?