Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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cybrsage

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I find it interesting that unions would rather lose members than reduce the pay of the members.

Union: We are here to protect all union members
Management: We need to either reduce the pay of all or reduce headcount, there is no more monies
Union to New Guy: We are not here to protect you, but thanks for your monies
New Guy: I am a brainwashed union member, so I am thanking you for getting me fired!
 

Fear No Evil

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Ausm

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Its funny how Obama had full control of the house and senate and you and your ilk would claim its all the Republicans fault for not working with him, and now Mr. Walker has full control of his state's senate and house and you claim he's not working with the Democrats.

I know its difficult for you lefties to understand, because you've so rarely seen it.. but its called LEADERSHIP. Mr. Walker is showing plenty of it, Obama is floundering around like a moron.

You obviously have no clue how the Democratic party operates do you? Nor do you understand the Republicans abuse of the Filibuster.

Nice try but your rant is baseless.
 

Ausm

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Its no surprise we already have all sorts of illegal activity going on by the Dems:

http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3627/11/3627_1321478241.pdf

http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3627/11/3627_1321474714.jpg

For those to clueless to understand, its illegal to campaign in public government buildings or using public resources. I HOPE the second one was not legit, but with this group of immoral jackasses running the Wisconsin Democrat party one can't be sure.

Walker Recall allowed to continue in a public building...Que AC/DC "shot down in flames".....

Local governments can set their own rules in their Public buildings.

http://video.channel3000.com/watch.php?id=38610
 

Ausm

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Ok, but that "Dictator" has kept taxes from going up, balanced the budget, kept teachers and other public sector unions from losing their jobs, passed concealed carry, saved local school districts millions of dollars.

What exactly would a person working with the other side do? Why can't you answer that basic question?

You obviously do not read my posts are you a spawn of Genx87 by chance?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Way back past our Republican Governor Tommy Thompson and people weren't screaming that collective bargaining was the crux of the issue back then...so try again.

Uhh... you clearly ignorant. TT was trying to reform the Education system and the WEA and NEA were having daily conniptions over it. They HATED TT. However, bargaining wasn't the crux because it was under control. Doyle allowed it to become a mess and it needed corrected. Should TT have done something to prevent someone like Doyle to let it get out of control? sure but there were other issues TT addressed like school choice. :)
 

cybrsage

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Just not sure if we should listen to someone who like a football team whose unwritten first name is Fudge...The Greenbay Fudge...

jussayingArbyBBQsause...


Personal attack so far off topic it won't stand even in P&N.

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CADsortaGUY

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Just not sure if we should listen to someone who like a football team whose unwritten first name is Fudge...The Greenbay Fudge...

jussayingArbyBBQsause...

I'm not sure liking a particular professional sports team has anything to do with politics or one's credibility.

<-Packer Fan since way before it was popular to be one. Cardiac pack with Majikowski anyone? Man he had a sweet mullet :p Lynn Dickie? Randy Wright? lol
 

Ausm

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I dunno, why do you resort to personal attacks?


Gee I guess you got me...:rolleyes::rolleyes: I never start out with a personal attack without ever having a discussion with a person on this forum but in your case I could defiantly break that rule. ;)
 
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CADsortaGUY

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Dude why the personal attacks?


Back on topic

105,000 signatures in 4 days.

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/29813750/detail.html

So they have all the activist freaks signed up.... now the hard work will begin. I can't say they won't get the numbers they need because I know how southern Wisconsin politics works. Outside of the lefty hotspots of Madison and Milwaukee it'll be much harder.
 

Bowfinger

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Found this while looking for the source of FNE's unattributed smears. (They appear to have come from Breitbart, something I'm sure will surprise nobody.)

As Wisconsin Governor's Poll Numbers Tank, GOP Moves to 'Rig' Recall
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker&#8217;s support has collapsed, according to a new poll that shows that 58 percent of voters favor recalling the Republican whose anti-labor initiatives provoked the mass demonstrations that anticipated the Occupy Wall Street movement.

According to a new St. Norbert College/Wisconsin Public Radio survey of Wisconsin voters, only 38 percent of voters now support retaining Walker as governor. That represents a ten-point drop in support for the governor since last spring, when it was presumed that he had bottomed out. In fact, they have continued to decline, with significant movement of previously undecided voters into the anti-Walker camp. Thirty-seven percent of Wisconsinites now &#8220;strongly disapprove&#8221; of Walker&#8217;s governorship, while 21 percent merely disapprove. Among the most engaged (and presumably likely) voters, the figire rises to a remarkable 61 percent overall disapproval number for the governor. Significantly, while attitudes toward President Obama and the state&#8217;s Republican senator, Ron Johnson, have remained relatively steady, Walker&#8217;s numbers have tanked. That&#8217;s a serious problem for the governor, as it suggests that voters are crossing partisan and even ideological lines to oppose him.
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The Republican-led Joint Committee for Review of Administrative Rules has ordered the state&#8217;s Government Accountability Board&#8212;an independent agency that oversees elections in Wisconsin&#8212;to submit decisions regarding key voting-rights issues to a formal rule-making process that gives Governor Walker and Republican legislative leaders the ability to reject rule changes made by the GAB.

Critics warn that this gives Walker the power to dictate how the GAB runs elections&#8212;including a new election that would be scheduled if opponents of the governor succeed in filing 540,000 valid signatures on recall petitions. That&#8217;s because, under an executive order the governor recently issued, he now has the authority to veto newly created administrative rules&#8212;if they are formally promulgated. The decision by the Joint Committee for Review of Administrative Rules, which was made in a party-line vote Tuesday, requires the formalizing of the rules in a manner that gives the final say to the governor, as opposed to the independent board that is supposed to set election rules and oversee voting.
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The governor and his backers have been fiercely critical of the recall drive and they have taken dramatic steps to avert it:

1. The Republican co-chair of the legislative Joint Finance Committee has proposed to amend the state constitution to severely restrict circumstances in which recall elections can be sought.

2. A Republican state senator who is closed allied with the governor sought to tighten requirements for notarizing recall petitions in a way that would have made it much harder for citizens to circulate and certify petitions.

3. Americans for Prosperity, a group funded by billionaire conservative donors David and Charles Koch, began airing pro-Walker television ads in the weeks before the recall campaign&#8217;s November 15 launch.

4. The governor&#8217;s campaign committee this week launched a $300,000 advertising campaign to defend his policies&#8212;especially the attack on collective-bargaining rights that inspired mass demonstrations last February and March.

5. The Republican Party of Wisconsin has launched a so-called &#8220;Recall Integrity Center,&#8221; which seems to encourage intimidation of Wisconsinites gathering recall petition signatures.
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But Walker was not always opposed to recall elections, and he did not always want to control and constrain them.

Walker was elected Milwaukee County Executive in a 2002 recall election.
In 2010, when he was running for governor, he hailed the process as democracy in action.

&#8220;You know the folks that were angry about this started a recall and they were told they needed to collect 73,000 signatures in sixty days,&#8221; said Walker. &#8220;Well, not hundreds, not thousands, but tens of thousands of ordinary people did an extraordinary thing. They stood up and took their government back. In less than thirty days they collected more than 150,000 signatures. It was at that moment I realized the real emotion on display in my county wasn&#8217;t just about anger. You see, if it had been about anger, it would have been about people checking out and moving out or giving up. But instead what happened was really amazing. You saw people standing up shoulder to shoulder, neighbor to neighbor and saying we want our government back. And in doing so the real emotion on display was about hope. Today I see a lot of the same emotions on display here in Wisconsin and all across our great country. Obviously, there are a lot of reasons to be angry.&#8221;

Once again, not hundreds, not thousands but tens of thousands of ordinary people are doing an extraordinary thing in Wisconsin. They are standing up and trying to take their government back.

It&#8217;s just that, now, Governor Walker appears to be trying to make it harder for others to do launch the sort of movement&#8212;and wage the sort of election fight&#8212;that he once celebrated.
Full article at the link. Cliiffs:

  • Walker is not popular in Wisconsin. 58&#37; favor recall.
  • Republicans are trying to rig the recall to circumvent the will of the people of Wisconsin.
  • Koch brothers are dumping money into Wisconsin to prop up Walker.
  • Walker was for it before he was against it.
Sounds like business as usual for today's RNC.
 
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CADsortaGUY

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Found this while looking for the source of FNE's unattributed smears. (They appear to have come from Breitbart, something I'm sure will surprise nobody.)

Full article at the link. Cliiffs:

  • Walker is not popular in Wisconsin. 58% favor recall.
  • Republicans are trying to rig the recall to circumvent the will of the people of Wisconsin.
  • Koch brothers are dumping money into Wisconsin to prop up Walker.
  • Walker was for it before he was against it.
Sounds like business as usual for today's RNC.

How dare they defend the Governor against the Democrats... :roll;

1. polling isn't as clear cut as your statement claims.
2. uh, not really - there are all sorts of issues that have been coming up with elections - clarifying these BEFORE the assumed election is the right course of action instead of AFTER.
3. tinfoil koch brothers reference - go figure.
4. ok?

I laugh at the walker haters. He's done more to help the fiscal situation in Wisconsin(local and state wide) than anyone else. WAAAHHHH!!!! people have to contribute to their own retirement now? welcome to the real world you spoiled brats.
 

dmcowen674

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If the people of Wisconsin want to be like the fools in Ohio that is fine by me. If they want to vote for higher taxes and worse education that is fine by me. I am hoping the people of Wisconsin wise up.

Ohio seems to be coming around and realizing the mistake they made putting Republicans in control.

Wisconsin still seems to be a lost cause like neighboring state Iowa.
They deserve each other.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Ohio seems to be coming around and realizing the mistake they made putting Republicans in control.

Wisconsin still seems to be a lost cause like neighboring state Iowa.
They deserve each other.

Wisconsin and Iowa are doing better than you morons in Illinois. lol keep letting the leftists and thugs run your state so they stay out of ours please :)
 

Bowfinger

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How dare they defend the Governor against the Democrats... :roll;
First, who is "they"? Second, I have no issue with "defending" Walker ... as long as it's done honestly and without attempting to cheat.


1. polling isn't as clear cut as your statement claims.
I just presented information from the article. If you have objective FACTS or DATA to refute the article, feel free to share. If all you have is the usual knee-jerk, emotional denial, nobody cares.

2. uh, not really - there are all sorts of issues that have been coming up with elections - clarifying these BEFORE the assumed election is the right course of action instead of AFTER.
I just presented information from the article. If you have objective FACTS or DATA to refute the article, feel free to share. If all you have is the usual knee-jerk, emotional denial, nobody cares.


3. tinfoil koch brothers reference - go figure.
I just presented information from the article. If you have objective FACTS or DATA to refute the article, feel free to share. If all you have is the usual knee-jerk, emotional denial, nobody cares.


It's called hypocrisy. While I understand the nutter fringe embraces it as a desirable trait, normal people reject it as a serious character flaw.


I laugh at the walker haters.
If it's any consolation, they laugh at you too ... or they would if you mattered in the least.


He's done more to help the fiscal situation in Wisconsin(local and state wide) than anyone else. WAAAHHHH!!!! people have to contribute to their own retirement now? welcome to the real world you spoiled brats.
Yet he has a 58&#37; disapproval rating with the People of Wisconsin. Seems like the people most impacted by his purported "help" disagree with you.
 

WHAMPOM

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So much anger about the public fixing a mistake! Wait!! Republicans benefiting from recall elections is alright but not the other way around? Oh the hypocrisy!!
 

Fear No Evil

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Yet he has a 58% disapproval rating with the People of Wisconsin. Seems like the people most impacted by his purported "help" disagree with you.

So now disapproval ratings determine if we recall people? There will be an election in 3 years to decide if the people like his reforms or not. There is a reason we have elected terms of Government so people like Walker can reform government and not have a bunch of union thugs and criminals try to get him recalled for fixing things.

This is nothing but a bunch of crybaby Democrats who can't win an election trying to circumvent the process. NOTHING Governor Walker has done deserves a recall. Elections have consequences, unless you are a Democrat, then you just having them until you get the results you want.

It is funny watching people already trying to come up with the excuses for why Walker will survive this.. Koch Brothers, cheating, etc. The only CHEATERS are the Democrats who when they aren't fleeing the state are trying to recall people who have done nothing illegal or wrong.
 

Fear No Evil

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Its also interesting that NOBODY, including the Moveon.Org posterboy Ausm has answered the question of WHAT the Democrats will run on. WHAT is their message? Higher taxes? Lay off workers? More debt?
 

cybrsage

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Walker is not popular in Wisconsin. 58% favor recall.

It is a poll done by a liberal group...what did you expect the results to be? Frankly, the fact it is so close (+ or -5%) when the poll was done by a bunch of liberals means that, in reality, the real results would be that most people do not favor a recall.

The right spins things there way, the left spins things there way, and reality is somewhere in the middle.
 

cybrsage

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Its also interesting that NOBODY, including the Moveon.Org posterboy Ausm has answered the question of WHAT the Democrats will run on. WHAT is their message? Higher taxes? Lay off workers? More debt?

They will run on "I am not the other guy". Dems love that stuff, it worked for Obama.
 

Bowfinger

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It is a poll done by a liberal group...what did you expect the results to be? Frankly, the fact it is so close (+ or -5%) when the poll was done by a bunch of liberals means that, in reality, the real results would be that most people do not favor a recall.

The right spins things there way, the left spins things there way, and reality is somewhere in the middle.
I just presented information from the article. If you have objective FACTS or DATA to refute the article, feel free to share. If all you have is the usual knee-jerk, emotional denial, nobody cares.