Rebuilding PC. Opinions on this build ? Advice..

[MentalIlness]

My main rig is below in the sig, the FX-8120 rig. Anyway, I am wondering if I should rebuild now, or after the new Intel cpus hit.
So a few questions,

1-Will Skylake be that much better than a 4790k?
2-Will Skylake have a new socket ?
3-Will I be able to "upgrade" to Skylake on Socket 1150

If I do upgrade, how much performance will I gain ? I also plan on going with a 1440p montior.


Core i7-4790K

ASUS SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK S

EVGA GTX980 Ti SC

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB 1600

CORSAIR Hydro H105 Extreme

ASUS DVD-Writer DRW-24F1ST

Blu-Ray LG Black (WH14NS40)

WD BLACK SERIES 2TB

SSD SAMSUNG 840 EVO 250GB

Cooler Master HAF XB EVO

EVGA GOLD 750W

 

[ignatzatsonic]

1: no, assuming "that much" means "significantly faster". You'll mostly get some new features that you may or may not find useful. Probably similar or slightly better performance at a similar or slightly lower clockspeeds.

2: yes, socket 1151

3: no

How much performance gain you might see on Skylake remains to be seen and won't be known for 2 or 3 months or so when we will be flooded with benchmark reports and experimentation.

I'd wait to at least check Skylake out unless you can't wait that long.

 

[VirtualLarry]

So a few questions,
1-Will Skylake be that much better than a 4790k?
Most likely, but we don't really have any benchmarks or OC numbers yet.
2-Will Skylake have a new socket ?
Yes.
3-Will I be able to "upgrade" to Skylake on Socket 1150[/B]
No. If you have a Z97, and the appropriate BIOS update for it, you can upgrade to 14nm Broadwell (5th Generation Core).

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[Ken g6]

One other thing to consider: Skylake will need new RAM. If you plan to reuse 16GB of existing RAM, a 4790K now might make sense. If you're planning to buy new RAM, I'd wait for Skylake. (I, personally, am waiting for Skylake.)

Edit:

EVGA GTX980 Ti SC

Unless prices skyrocket from undersupply, I see no reason to wait to get a 980 Ti. Get it now, put it in your existing system, and enjoy it.

 

[MentalIlness]

Seems I have been out of the loop a long while, and while I have heard the names Skylake and Broadwell....I think I may need to look into it a little further. Probably just rumors, speculation and conjecture at this point.

Anything concrete known about Skylake?

But I wont be stuck on a motherboard with no upgrade options this time. For the chance I ditch the 4 year full upgrade cycle.

So ill hold out for a few months, and see what the new Intel lineup consists of.

 

[MentalIlness]

One other thing to consider: Skylake will need new RAM. If you plan to reuse 16GB of existing RAM, a 4790K now might make sense. If you're planning to buy new RAM, I'd wait for Skylake. (I, personally, am waiting for Skylake.)

Edit:

Unless prices skyrocket from undersupply, I see no reason to wait to get a 980 Ti. Get it now, put it in your existing system, and enjoy it.

When the upgrade hits, it will be a complete system. Even if I went with the 4790K...I would still go with new RAM and keep the predecessor complete for wife...or kid usage.

Only thing I really "ever" upgrade separately would be a GPU. Everything else waits for a system rebuild.

Good idea on the GTX 980Ti. But it seems I am "hoping" for a price cut soon. Hopefully ? Maybe not ?

 

[mfenn]

Good idea on the GTX 980Ti. But it seems I am "hoping" for a price cut soon. Hopefully ? Maybe not ?

Doubtful. The GTX 980 Ti is competitive in performance with the Radeon Fury X while costing about the same (slightly less). Nvidia rarely cuts prices on current generation parts unless AMD is beating them by a large margin.

 

[MentalIlness]

Doubtful. The GTX 980 Ti is competitive in performance with the Radeon Fury X while costing about the same (slightly less). Nvidia rarely cuts prices on current generation parts unless AMD is beating them by a large margin.

The price cut I mentioned was based on an article at Fudzilla.

http://fudzilla.com/news/processors/38086-nvidia-going-to-trim-its-high-end-prices

Nvidia going to trim its high-end prices

Damaging AMD Nvidia is about to release a range of price cuts in a bid to see off AMD in the longer term.
While the price cuts have already happened in the US, in the EU Nvidia's GTX 980, GTX 980Ti and Titan X are still kept high because people were buying them at the prices the Green Goblin was asking.
In the US where competition between AMD and Nvidia is tighter, the prices dropped by 10 per cent. Ironically since Europeans are more loyal to Nvidia in the high-end graphics cards market the outfit decided they could continue to pay.
According to Kitguru the new R9 Radeon 300 series appears to have upset the apple cart. The cards have been launched at similar prices or lower than Nvidia's top tier products. Apparently Europeans were thinking of going cheaper since the Green Goblin did not seem to admire their loyalty.
It could force AMD to drop its prices as it can't remain competitive selling top-end graphics at prices higher than Nvidia's while having weak selling figures in non-US countries.
It will force AMD to sell its freshly launched Fury X at prices lower than planned, and for such a new card this move damage AMD. Nvidia was expected to drop prices of course, but only for its lower-end products like the 700 or 600 series.

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After just posting that, I reread it...and noticed the bolded part above.

I dont know, maybe adding a second GTX 760 SC, it would be just as good as a 980 Ti. Or am I talking 780 Ti performance here ?

 

[mfenn]

After just posting that, I reread it...and noticed the bolded part above.

I dont know, maybe adding a second GTX 760 SC, it would be just as good as a 980 Ti. Or am I talking 780 Ti performance here ?

GTX 760 SLI is somewhere between an original Titan and a GTX 690 in games where SLI works well. That puts it somewhere in the realm of GTX 970/980 (non-Ti) performance.

 

[MentalIlness]

GTX 760 SLI is somewhere between an original Titan and a GTX 690 in games where SLI works well. That puts it somewhere in the realm of GTX 970/980 (non-Ti) performance.

Seems you have hit that right on the head based on these charts. However, in a few months when I go to a 1440p monitor, how much of a limiting factor will the 2GB GPU memory be ?

 

[mfenn]

Seems you have hit that right on the head based on these charts. However, in a few months when I go to a 1440p monitor, how much of a limiting factor will the 2GB GPU memory be ?

It'll be a concern definitely. That was why I was subtly suggesting not to bother and just get a faster single card. 😉

 

[obidamnkenobi]

One other thing to consider: Skylake will need new RAM. If you plan to reuse 16GB of existing RAM, a 4790K now might make sense. If you're planning to buy new RAM, I'd wait for Skylake. (I, personally, am waiting[.

Really? I thought I read that skylake would take DDR 3 and 4? I was hoping to avoid getting new ram

 

[mfenn]

Really? I thought I read that skylake would take DDR 3 and 4? I was hoping to avoid getting new ram

The Skylake CPU is technically capable of supporting either. However, it remains to be seen if DDR3 will be a common configuration on Z-series boards.

 

[Ken g6]

Based on the latest from Ian Cutress, I'd say Skylake is likely to need new RAM, unless you already have extra-low-voltage RAM.

Firstly, DDR3 is technically DDR3L, because the 1.35V requirement of DDR3L aligns better with the 1.2V (or 1.35V of high speed) DDR4 requirement. Regular DDR3 may work, though chances are it will not be tested.

It would seem (looking at the other motherboard manufacturers as well) that this type of hybrid design will not be on the Z170 series of motherboards, and is more resigned to the sub-$120 market.