Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
because we are actually perfect together and wanted to make a binding commitment. Not really a difficult choice
you can't commit without making it a legal contract?
x2 Mosh
And the only way to have a "binding commitment" is through marriage huh? Interesting.
I think that the legal contract helps to prevent divorces, because as IhateMyJob said divorce is too costly for the men (usually the ment at least) especially when kids are involved.
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Is "love" just too obvious or what?
*cues Tina Turner*
do you have to get married to prove love?
How many people have "loved" one another without getting married?
OP I am very interested in this thread, as my gf and I have had this conversation many times. I am of the mindset that there is nothing marriage provides, that's beneficial to me, that I can't get without the legal aspects. You want a ceremony for me to pronounce my love for you in front of friends, family, and all witnesses? Okay, then lets have a ceremony. I'm fine with that, and will do it tomorrow provided there are no legal contracts.
As a male, I don't see any benefit for me in marriage. Yes there are some benefits in the realm of tax breaks (although you pay more due to combined incomes), legal ones like spousal benefits (if I get sick or for wills and such), easier to get a house when both names are on it (but you can do this without being married AFAIK), and can add them to medical insurance. For me though, 75% of that doesn't matter. The tax breaks I don't need right now as I get a refund (due to school). I don't need spousal benefits (to give them to somebody), because if I died or something my mother is the one who would take care of all that. I'd like to get a house, but I don't know if I want both our names on it. If *only* my name is on it, then it's less likely I'd lose it if we did ever get divorced (although as with everybody I'd expect not to). My medical insurance allows me to add "domestic partners" to my insurance, so I don't need to worry about that.
So, with no benefits all I see are the possible risks which are huge. Lose my stuff, lose my income, lose my retirement, etc. The risk/reward ratio is all risk and little to no rewards.