Does it matter given the candidates?
You definitely have a point there!
Does it matter given the candidates?
Um, so far Obama has done what? Let's see invaded a foreign country to kill Osama, put boots on the ground in Libya, is deploying troops to Africa, has maintained both wars in the Middle East ...yea, those Republican warmongers
The US may have nominally a two party system, but in practice it is ruled by one hydra head, so it doesn't truly matter who you vote for, especially when it comes to foreign policy.
126 (61%) of 208 Democratic Representatives voted against the resolution.
6 (<3%) of 223 Republican Representatives voted against the resolution
Um, so far Obama has done what? Let's see invaded a foreign country to kill Osama, put boots on the ground in Libya, is deploying troops to Africa, has maintained both wars in the Middle East ...yea, those Republican warmongers
Why don't you go tally up the number of troops that Obama has ordered to foreign countries and compare it to the number Bush had at this point in his presidency? Get back to us with that number, plz.
Obama has done tons of great things.
He's implemented a historic universal health care bill,
he's implemented significant credit card reforms,
he's helped to end gender discrimination in the workplace,
he's reigned in credit card and banking customer abuses,
he killed Osama Bin Laden,
he helped overthrow Qaddafi,
he's added much needed regulation to a whole host of industries, etc, etc, etc.
The facts called to say they differ.
For example, from Wiki on the Iraq war:
So, if we had all Democrats, we wouldn't have had the war. But we didn't, did we.
If you look at the Democrats that voted for the war, they were mostly Southern Democrats. If you replaced all the southern republicans with southern democrats, they'd still have voted for war in Iraq. Now if you replaced all those Republicans with fair minded, progressive Democrats, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq, we wouldn't have a ridiculous deficit, people wouldn't be going without healthcare and the world would be a better place.
So he's excused because Bush deployed more people? loliberal apologist.
Ahh the grand POS that is Obummercare is now "historic" LOL, historically written by insurance, and big pharma maybe. It's a Colossal clusterfuck of a bill, and doesn't do anything to solve the real problems in our health care system. Such great success. If Obama had a spine we'd be arguing about Single Payer, not wondering whether Pelosi has read through the bill, and found out what's in it yet.p/quote]
Oh no! You called it 'Obummercare'! I also liked the feeble attempt to keep misusing a Nancy Pelosi quote.
Ahh yes, his reforms have done so much to help that the people are coming out in droves to thank him ...oh wait, nevermind, they are protesting, sorry.
Legislation doesn't take immediate effect, and the OWS protests are not about credit card/overdraft fees. You would know that if you had been there.
BWAHAHAHA ..he did? How so? lol
I love when stupid people laugh about something they could have learned about in 10 seconds on google. It was literally the first law he signed upon getting into office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act_of_2009
I think there's a few hundred thousand people camped out around the nation that would beg to differ, but if you say so.
They are not protesting credit card/overdraft fees. You would know that if you had been there.
Yea, he threw on his BDU's and put two in his head.
Pathetic attempt to negate credit.
Oh yea, that huge threat to America that Qaddafi was and all.
Pathetic attempt to negate credit for removing an unfriendly dictator who killed 189 Americans. Not only did he remove him, but he did it at very minimal cost to America. (even I was surprised, as I was expecting a drawn out conflict)
But hey, it's not like this thread was actually about reasons to vote for Obama. I don't know who I was kidding.
the fair pay act was more about removing statute of limitations, not necessarily a magical anti-discrimination bill or a second civil rights act.
your claim on 'ended gender discrimination in the workplace'.
so how did removing statute of limitations abolish gender discrimination? i agree that the varying state statute of limitations in some cases were unfair.
perhaps 'made it easier to file a pay discrimination complaint' would have been more accurate.
He's cooler than you.
Here's a few to start, additions welcome:
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I couldn't think of any....
Funny how it's easy for the left, craig in particular to just attack attack attack the opposition, but never really supporting his own guy...
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Does it matter given the candidates?
Here's something I've been tossing around in my head:
"Would it be better for the Democratic Party and their constituency in the long run if Obama lost this election?"
The reason being a loss would hopefully send the message to future Democratic presidents that their base will not tolerate betrayal simply out of fear of the other guys.
I'll probably be voting 3rd party this election.
I can think of many, but I see this is just another right wing bashing thread. Obama has been very centrist, pissing off the far right (who will be pissed know matter what) and pissing of the far left. In his second term he will come into his own. He will know the system and not have to worry about re-election. He will also get to shake off all this crap he inherited from GWB. Good times ahead,
if by cooler, you mean better at golf, then you're probably right.... he golfs a LOT
Um, so far Obama has done what? Let's see invaded a foreign country to kill Osama, put boots on the ground in Libya, is deploying troops to Africa, has maintained both wars in the Middle East ...yea, those Republican warmongers