Reason To Not Exchange Obscene Gestures While Driving

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jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jupiter57
Road Rage is so childish!
99.9% of the time, no one really did anything "wrong". It seems that just getting in front of someone nowadays, by whatever means & however safely, is called "Cutting me off"?
And why, when you are trying to pass another, slower moving vehicle, do they always speed up while you are passing, then want to get right on your tail, and sometimes even pass you? (These are the morons who tend to use the "Hand Gestures"!)
God forbid you may want to drive 5 MPH faster than them!
This crap has gotten Sooo out of hand!

If you drive faster than me, you're a maniac. If you drive slower than me, you're a grandpa. The only acceptable speed is the speed I'm going. ;)

I think it's a psychological thing, we always want to be at the front of the line with no impediments on the road. So we pass, and we don't like being passed.

You mentioned something that is very key. It seems driving on the roads today turns into a big c _ck stroking contest.
I don't understand why everything in life has to involve a damn competition.


 

mugs

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jupiter57
Road Rage is so childish!
99.9% of the time, no one really did anything "wrong". It seems that just getting in front of someone nowadays, by whatever means & however safely, is called "Cutting me off"?
And why, when you are trying to pass another, slower moving vehicle, do they always speed up while you are passing, then want to get right on your tail, and sometimes even pass you? (These are the morons who tend to use the "Hand Gestures"!)
God forbid you may want to drive 5 MPH faster than them!
This crap has gotten Sooo out of hand!

If you drive faster than me, you're a maniac. If you drive slower than me, you're a grandpa. The only acceptable speed is the speed I'm going. ;)

I think it's a psychological thing, we always want to be at the front of the line with no impediments on the road. So we pass, and we don't like being passed.

You mentioned something that is very key. It seems driving on the roads today turns into a big c _ck stroking contest.
I don't understand why everything in life has to involve a damn competition.

Pretty sure that's illegal while driving. :Q

:p
 

BoomerD

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I'd look for the guy to get charged with some variety of manslaughter at the minimum if he gets caught. He INTENTIONALLY cut them off and stomped on his brakes. HE is then responsible for the resulting accident. Are the other folks (now dead) responsible for not wearing their seat belts? You betcha...THAT'S stupidity at its finest, but HE INTENTIONALLY caused the resultant accident, and therefore is responsible for any damages, injuries, or deaths.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'd look for the guy to get charged with some variety of manslaughter at the minimum if he gets caught. He INTENTIONALLY cut them off and stomped on his brakes. HE is then responsible for the resulting accident. Are the other folks (now dead) responsible for not wearing their seat belts? You betcha...THAT'S stupidity at its finest, but HE INTENTIONALLY caused the resultant accident, and therefore is responsible for any damages, injuries, or deaths.

agreed. he intended for something other than a normal traffic lane switch to happen, whether it was to have them crash into him or to scare them or to make them swerve... he caused it, not the idiots who didn't wear their seatbelts.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Where is that 6000 guy in here, he likes to slam on his brakes and collect insurance money.
You mean 6000SUX? Where did he say that? That's insurance fraud.
He posted this in two different threads:

Am I the only person that isn't bothered by tailgaters?

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Originally posted by: Ryan
I brake check - and it brings me satisfaction
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That is the worst thing you can possibly do. You are risking your saftey and the saftey of everyone around you needlessly. I hope people who brakecheck get more than they bargained for one day and cause their own death.
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I once tapped the brakes while in front of an aggressive tailgater, and he totalled both of our cars. His was a nice BMW.

I made out like a bandit.

I was lucky not to get injured, but he was found completely at fault by both insurance companies and everything turned out fine.
 

Damn Dirty Ape

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I prefer the good ole' 5 full seconds of the car horn, which very clearly relates "FU". Not just a tap or a little beep..
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: Eli
Brake check! ;) It's been done to me, and I've done it to others.

It is unfortunate that people died. Tragic, even.

The guy shouldn't have brake checked them.

They shouldn't have swerved. And the guy in the pickup is a complete douche for leaving the scene.

Sebring convertible+high off the ground pickup truck bumper.... Not sure they'd fare any better hitting him.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Where is that 6000 guy in here, he likes to slam on his brakes and collect insurance money.
You mean 6000SUX? Where did he say that? That's insurance fraud.

He hasn't been around since he had a meltdown on me in the McDonald's coffee lawsuit case. Maybe he finally got treatment?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Where is that 6000 guy in here, he likes to slam on his brakes and collect insurance money.
You mean 6000SUX? Where did he say that? That's insurance fraud.

He hasn't been around since he had a meltdown on me in the McDonald's coffee lawsuit case. Maybe he finally got treatment?

I wouldn't mind. He's a tool. He ranted on and on at me awhile back because I wouldn't accept his rabid atheism as scientific. He even created a troll thread (which got locked) trying to "expose" me as a Christian believer when the quote he used (from a 2 year-old thread) was so pantheistic it would have gotten me almost instantly ex-communicated from most any Christian congregation.
No surprise now to see that he's lacking in ethics.
 

mattocs

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People in the car should have watched out. The driver of the truck did nothing wrong. Maybe a bird flew in front of him or something.
 

Triumph

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I-270 is the single worst stretch of road that I've ever encountered for left lane hogs. Consistently and without fail, every time I drive on that road, I am forced to pass on the right. Death to left lane hogs! (no idea if the convertible was hogging the left lane, but I just wanted to hop on a chance to berate I-270. I hate that road).
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Honestly, who swerves when they get brake checked?

Not me. The few times I've been checked made me inch that much closer to the rear bumper.
 

SVT Cobra

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Did people read the article? They did not just get brake checked, the guy swerved in front of them cutting them off, it was not a simple "you are tail gating me" brake check.

FCS read the article.
 

Luthien

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Well Gawd Dammit what about the women flashing their titties causing accidents! They should be arrested for attempted homicide! Some people will say that is an obscene jesture too. I bet their have been arrests of women that have done that and they have been charged with it too.

Some radio show I was listening to a few years ago wanted women to call in and say where they were on the highway and to flash their titties and they wanted guys that saw them to call in etc. Pretty funny but what if it caused an accident.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: DougK62
Honestly, who swerves when they get brake checked?

Not me. The few times I've been checked made me inch that much closer to the rear bumper.

Good I hope you get seen by a cop and have your license suspended for reckless driving. Assholes like you make the road dangerous. I get flamed for speeding in other threads yet people like you go unnoticed. (You also make my insurance higher because of idiot testosterone driven drivers like you_

Get a life people, the road is the real world and anger can cause death when you're going 60mph.




 

Luthien

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: DougK62
Honestly, who swerves when they get brake checked?

Not me. The few times I've been checked made me inch that much closer to the rear bumper.

Good I hope you get seen by a cop and have your license suspended for reckless driving. Assholes like you make the road dangerous. I get flamed for speeding in other threads yet people like you go unnoticed. (You also make my insurance higher because of idiot testosterone driven drivers like you_

Get a life people, the road is the real world and anger can cause death when you're going 60mph.

Have to agree here brake checking is crazy and as a driver on the highway seeking to avoid a collision in an instant could do anything.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Eli
I admit the first time someone brake checked me, it did scare the sh!t out of me... but my first reaction wasn't to swerve wildly, I just hit my brakes really hard. I've only done it to someone once, and that was because they were WAY too close to me, and it was just a very slight blip. They backed off.

Heh, I don't have the "swerve" reaction either. When something is going to happen, I just keep going straight and brake brake brake! Swerving, IMO, just causes more problems.

Yeah, swerving only makes sense if you can't stop in time. Sometimes it can help, though. In my stupid years, I was once coming around a blind corner in the rain on semi-bald tires, when I suddenly came across a hidden stoplight with a nice 740i stopped right in front of me. I hit the brakes, the tires locked and I KNEW it wouldn't stop in time. Thankfully, my mind was clear enough to release the brakes and swerve into the turn lane. Felt like a real moron, and I changed my tires shortly thereafter.

But what convertible out there can't out-brake a pickup truck, on dry pavement? I have an MR2 and a motorcycle, and in both vehicles I worry more about getting rear-ended after a panic stop than running into the guy who stopped ahead of me.
 

VTrider

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Dumbasses on both sides. While I think the guy should be prosecuted for causing the accident intentionally, I don't see how he is responsible for their deaths.

So let's say your feeling mischievous and drop banana peels on the floor of a subway station with the intent to cause an accident (to have somebody loose control and slip/fall). You only place them 2 feet from the edge of the tracks - where your not supposed to stand because of the obvious danger from speeding trains, yet, somebody stands there...slips on the banana peels, falls on the tracks and gets run over by the train - dead.

Now according to your logic, would you say that although you are guilty for causing this accident you shouldn't be held accountable for that person's death because he/she was a dumbass for standing there in the first place? :roll: I hope for the sake of society, your not eligible for jury duty yet. (That goes for you too BlancoNino and VTHodge;) )

Originally posted by: magnux

If I cut you off and slam on the brakes, am I to reasonable expect you to plow into the back of me and die, or at the very least, injur yourself? No.

I think it's definitely reasonable to expect that a driver could plow into the back of you and kill or injure themselves if you 'cut them off and slammed on the brakes' - seriously magnux please explain to everybody here how this is not a 'reasonable' assumption in this scenario?

You also mentioned to RKS that there was 'no grounds to homicide' in the similar incident in Ohio - The law disagrees with you. There are many identical cases such as this which proves my point - one is even described at the end of the OP's article (coffee incident). The laws regarding vehicular manslaughter are quite clear and straightforward.


 

fleshconsumed

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I don't think them wearing seatbelts would have helped. The article said the car flipped over, so if they were buckled up their heads would have grinded the pavement, a certain death I would think anyway. So it was just a matter how they died, by getting their heads smashed when the car flipped over or died when they were ejected from the car.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: VTrider
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Dumbasses on both sides. While I think the guy should be prosecuted for causing the accident intentionally, I don't see how he is responsible for their deaths.

So let's say your feeling mischievous and drop banana peels on the floor of a subway station with the intent to cause an accident (to have somebody loose control and slip/fall). You only place them 2 feet from the edge of the tracks - where your not supposed to stand because of the obvious danger from speeding trains, yet, somebody stands there...slips on the banana peels, falls on the tracks and gets run over by the train - dead.

Now according to your logic, would you say that although you are guilty for causing this accident you shouldn't be held accountable for that person's death because he/she was a dumbass for standing there in the first place? :roll: I hope for the sake of society, your not eligible for jury duty yet. (That goes for you too BlancoNino and VTHodge;) )

I don't think that is an appropriate analogy. Something closer would be a bunch of people playing a game (say football). Player 1 pulls an illegal move, say trips another. Unknown to him player 2 has a medical condition (which player 2 knows about) which causes the fall to kill player 2.

What I am saying is that 1) Both parties were engaged in risky behavior and 2) The two women are liable for their own deaths (though certainly not the accident) due to the suicidal behavior of not wearing seatbelts.