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reason for war: dollar being replaced by euro as reserve currency?

drewshin

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i read this interesting article, i know you bush backers can ignore the typical liberal rhetoric, but the article does bring up some very good points.

long article, but it basically says that the u.s. fears a flight from the dollar to euros by opec countries, which...if not done in stages, will quickly devalue the dollar and wreak havoc on our economy. iraq switched from dollars to euros in dec. of 2000 and look what's happening now. north korea just switched a few months ago (with little impact however). iran is thinking of switching, and russia has also hinted of switching. another threat is that of venezuela, which is also converting to euros and bartering their oil (which essentially leaves the dollar out of the transaction).

if you look at the dollar in the markets for the past year or so, it has steadily lost ground against the euro (about 30%). the eu with possible added members in the next few years will be a match for the u.s. both in terms of population and GDP (u.s. 280million, 9.5 trillion GDP, e.u. 450 million, 10.6 trillion GDP). one the u.s. has iraq under its control it can exert its power to either threaten countries (i.e. saudi arabia, iran) not to switch, or pump out massive amounts of oil, thus breaking the hold opec has on oil prices...

 
Originally posted by: Hitman32
Let them have their euros. I'll keep my dollars, who gives a damn? Not me.

And if your dollar gets worth less, you don't care?

Hmmm... you do realise that it is not the bill that is important, it's what you can buy for it?
 
Possibly they're also switching because the dollar was dropping fast while the Euro wasn't.
And that is thanks to stuff like Enron, Worldcom and Bush, which nicely screwed the economy and caused people to lose trust in the dollar.
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Hitman32
Let them have their euros. I'll keep my dollars, who gives a damn? Not me.

And if your dollar gets worth less, you don't care?

Hmmm... you do realise that it is not the bill that is important, it's what you can buy for it?

The dollar loses value every year. So what's new?
rolleye.gif
 
Originally posted by: Hitman32
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Hitman32
Let them have their euros. I'll keep my dollars, who gives a damn? Not me.

And if your dollar gets worth less, you don't care?

Hmmm... you do realise that it is not the bill that is important, it's what you can buy for it?

The dollar loses value every year. So what's new?
rolleye.gif

But with Walmart's ever declining prices and bouncing happy face what's there to lose?
 


The dollar loses value every year. So what's new?
rolleye.gif

however, if it is losing value faster than every other currency, than we as americans can buy less.

part of a currency's attractiveness is a faith or belief in the country standing behind that currency is in good standing. a lot of countries have reserves, and it seems like oil transactions are done in dollars simply because dollars are stable. now with the strong euro as an alternative to the dollar, and the political overtones of getting rid of dollars and converting to euros, countries that do not like our policies are contemplating this...and it does hurt us in a very real way.

some of what the article describes is probably a worst case scenario, but it definitely will have a very negative impact.

 
Originally posted by: drewshin
The dollar loses value every year. So what's new?
rolleye.gif

however, if it is losing value faster than every other currency, than we as americans can buy less.

part of a currency's attractiveness is a faith or belief in the country standing behind that currency is in good standing. a lot of countries have reserves, and it seems like oil transactions are done in dollars simply because dollars are stable. now with the strong euro as an alternative to the dollar, and the political overtones of getting rid of dollars and converting to euros, countries that do not like our policies are contemplating this...and it does hurt us in a very real way.

some of what the article describes is probably a worst case scenario, but it definitely will have a very negative impact.

The Euro is inevitably just going to get stronger and stronger. Even GB will eventually be forced to drop the pound and go to the Euro. This will reduce our purchasing power, but will help US exports. How it all balances out is beyond my scope. Any economists here?

 
Nice article.

I mentioned this a month or so ago. There was an article in the Atlantic Monthly about the growing force that the EU represents. They discuss the EU's ability to easily step into the shoes as the next world Super Power.

It's a very interesting time in history. I suspect that over the next 20 years we're going to see many more news articles on this topic.
 
great article thera! thanks!



The Euro is inevitably just going to get stronger and stronger. Even GB will eventually be forced to drop the pound and go to the Euro. This will reduce our purchasing power, but will help US exports. How it all balances out is beyond my scope. Any economists here?

you're right about the exports i would think, there would also most likely be massive hyperinflation if the opec countries did this all at once. all the dollars that these countries had in reserve would be replaced by euros, and the dollar would be greatly devalued.

the article recommends some type of global conference between G8 countries to discuss how a currency crisis can be averted or monetary reform. rather than that though, the bush administration has chosen to take the path of force, and hope that everthing turns out their way.
 
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