Reason #1000 not to tailgate...

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Numenorean

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TridenT said:
Damn, that was intense. I saw something on the side of the road and then that thing just fucking flew. I don't even understand how that thing got launched like that unless it got caught on something or came off.
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A tire moving at 60MPH + driving over it and shooting it out. Duh.
 
PlasmaBomb

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Was that dude holding a camera while driving... that's a bit of a pain too. If you want to record your journeys set up a bloody dash mount!

Marlin1975 said:
This.

I was expecting him to rear-end the trailer i.e. no brakelights on trailer. Or the truck on the right to hit the trailer.

Thats not a tailgate issue and the person had over 1 car length.
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You are aware that it's supposed to be 1 car length for every 10 mph you are travelling right?
 
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NoCreativity said:
Had a ladder fly off the truck in front of me couple years ago. I noticed it wasn't tied down very well so I kept my distance and was planning on getting out from behind him (he of course cut me off being in a big hurry and all). Before I could move over the ladder went flying. Had I been as close as this guy who knows what would have happened.

Glad I pay attention, unlike most other drivers.
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I hope you caught up with the person who didn't tie down the ladder and creatively informed him of what you thought of him...
 
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busydude said:
Add in the time taken for you to react and apply the brakes, if the vehicle in front of you suddenly starts slowing down.. the average reaction time is 1.5s IIRC.
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Reaction times vary depending on the task and attitude/alertness of the person.

The reaction time for more complex tasks is typically longer -
Press this button when the light shows - reaction times would typically be 200 - 500 ms for healthy alert people in their 20 - 40s...

Comparison and error correction take significantly longer

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^ time for brain to process words via fMRI - not actual measured reaction time for events (which would be higher)

Age also has a negative effect on reaction times -

971 ms to react to a STOP!! on the screen

Then of course during driving, the driver may not be fully alert, or fully paying attention, so you have to factor in additional time for them to notice something is wrong and action needs to be taken, in addition to their slower reactions...
 
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hanoverphist said:
i have ridden motorcycles for a couple decades. ive been bombarded by tools forgotten on flatbeds, tie downs that werent tied down well, tire chunks from both the road and blow outs and all kinds of things. i usually keep a healthy distance, but not always. im very glad that the one time i saw a big chunk of steel fall off the top of a tractor trailer and bounce 30 ft in the air that i was closer than normal, because it hit the truck behind me right at the bottom of the windshield. he swerved off the road, turns out the debris showered him and freaked him out. i stopped as a witness for that one. my point is, even on a motorcycle this shit happens, and if youre paying attention well enough they arent all fatal or hard to maneuver around. hell, i had to floor it over a mattress at 55 one time, i got a couple feet of air and stuck the landing. scared the fuck out of me and i had to pull over, but i (and my bike) made it ok.
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Perhaps a stupid question - why did you floor it?
 
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PlasmaBomb said:
Reaction times vary depending on the task and attitude/alertness of the person.

The reaction time for more complex tasks is typically longer -
Press this button when the light shows - reaction times would typically be 200 - 500 ms for healthy alert people in their 20 - 40s...

snip.
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Also momentum. Cars don't go into a sudden stop on a highway when you slam brakes. I'm kind of a little shocked some drivers here (not you but others in the thread) think 1 car spacing on highway speeds is okay. It doesn't apply at all.
 
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davmat787 said:
The stretch of I95 between Ft. Lauderdale and Miami had the worst driving I have ever seen over a two week span. Ended up paying for the pike and time it is so bad. Talk about tunnelvision with your ass on fire type of drivers. Why is FL so bad? Rarely was it your stereotypical 80 year old in a Caddy. When I was getting ready to go there, people mentioned this but I did not buy in so much, thinking this is overblown. NOT OVERBLOWN.
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Just that area of FL is bad. I don't go that far south. I actually thought drivers in S. Carolina were worse. Not so much as they were highly aggressive, just that in they were the most incapable drives I've ever seen.
 
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PlasmaBomb said:
Reaction times vary depending on the task and attitude/alertness of the person.

The reaction time for more complex tasks is typically longer -
Press this button when the light shows - reaction times would typically be 200 - 500 ms for healthy alert people in their 20 - 40s...

Comparison and error correction take significantly longer

Brain.jpg


^ time for brain to process words via fMRI - not actual measured reaction time for events (which would be higher)

Age also has a negative effect on reaction times -

971 ms to react to a STOP!! on the screen

Then of course during driving, the driver may not be fully alert, or fully paying attention, so you have to factor in additional time for them to notice something is wrong and action needs to be taken, in addition to their slower reactions...
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Yup.. I agree, and that is pretty much given. I just mentioned average time just to keep it simple.. and there is always wide demographic of people driving on the road at a given time.

I personally think 2s is safe on the highway.. it gives you enough time to react and stop without ramming into the back of the vehicle.
 
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PricklyPete said:
We do :)

As to all of you saying this is not tailgating...you have not been in an accident than where the car you are traveling in rear-ended someone. I personally have not been the driver, but I was the passenger when my sister hit someone going MUCH slower than this guy with similar distance. You put WAY too much trust in your breaks
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I tend to disagree. I always know I'll get some much needed rest while I'm on my breaks.
:cool:
 
davmat787

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Another part of the problem is that everyone thinks they are a good to great driver, and everything is the fault of the other.
 
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skyking

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Cattlegod said:
The tire surface is only moving at 60mph so it couldn't have shot it out.
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It's a pinch type of action, and can yield velocities of several times the tire's speed. Working in construction, I've seen rocks shoot out from under a backhoe or loader tire with potentially deadly velocity.
 
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