Ok, two things. How do you know this. Does the ec mark on the cache signify ecc or enhanced cache. I've looked at technical docs for coppermines and they fail to mention anything about l2 cache. Where are you getting your information Andy? Also in almost every modern bios there is a setting for l2 cache ecc, and also another for memory ecc, which are two different things. I've read something off of the AMD site , that states 72 bit l2 cache, 64 dual and 8 ecc. I'm inclined there is ecc on an Athlon's l2 , but only under certain circumstances. Also I can disable a coppermine's l2 cache in bios , thereby disabling it's ecc, If it has any, so why wouldn't disabling l2 ecc, in bios, disable l2 ecc, if it has any. I am still unclear on this and would appreciate more help here.