real world difference between last gen and today's SSD's?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

we all love benchmarks here on AT but i was wondering, is it really noticeable in real world usage?
lets say we're comparing previous generation drives using indilinx Barefoot or Intel G2 controllers, vs the newer Sandforce/Marvell controllers (all with TRIM support).

is day-to-day computer usage (starting windows, opening word/excel, surfing the web, checking email) really going to be noticeably faster?

 

[TemjinGold]

I had an OCZ 250gb Vertex before this G2. It did feel noticeably faster to me (kind of regret selling it to buy this one.) Having said that, what's noticeable to one person may not be to another.

 

[Edrick]

You are not going to see a huge difference until SATA 6Gps drives come out and really take advantage of those new speeds.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

You are not going to see a huge difference until SATA 6Gps drives come out and really take advantage of those new speeds.

C300 is SATA3 no?

 

[adamantinepiggy]

You are not going to see a huge difference until SATA 6Gps drives come out and really take advantage of those new speeds.

I would more pointedly say that until SATA3 "controllers and drivers" come out that are worth a crap, you wont see any difference really.

 

[Edrick]

I would more pointedly say that until SATA3 "controllers and drivers" come out that are worth a crap, you wont see any difference really.

That is what I should have said

 

[Emulex]

sata3 is crap. dual ported sas is where its been. 6gbps been around for a while and it's pretty cool to force a controller or backplane failover and watch the dual-porting action kick in.

cost is so minimal. if you do any servers you'll notice you can buy a 1TB,2TB SATA or SAS drive. same drive same 1 year warranty (due to number of returns) but you get dual ported and a more stable protocol (full duplex,lvd,locking,etc).

two computers could share one ssd would that blow your mind?

 

[EarthwormJim]

sata3 is crap. dual ported sas is where its been. 6gbps been around for a while and it's pretty cool to force a controller or backplane failover and watch the dual-porting action kick in.

cost is so minimal. if you do any servers you'll notice you can buy a 1TB,2TB SATA or SAS drive. same drive same 1 year warranty (due to number of returns) but you get dual ported and a more stable protocol (full duplex,lvd,locking,etc).

two computers could share one ssd would that blow your mind?

ok

 

[alfa147x]

sata3 is crap. dual ported sas is where its been. 6gbps been around for a while and it's pretty cool to force a controller or backplane failover and watch the dual-porting action kick in.

cost is so minimal. if you do any servers you'll notice you can buy a 1TB,2TB SATA or SAS drive. same drive same 1 year warranty (due to number of returns) but you get dual ported and a more stable protocol (full duplex,lvd,locking,etc).

two computers could share one ssd would that blow your mind?

Interesting, any way to implement this on the cheap on a regular pc?

 

[pitz]

The big advantage of the newer SSDs versus the older ones are their more robust wear levelling and management capabilities. In other words, you won't experience the sort of performance degradation with the new ones, that was common in the old ones.

The newer ones also consume less electricity, take up less space, can be made more dense, and can be manufactured less expensively. But performance-wise, the increases and/or differences are not noticeable.

 

[adamantinepiggy]

Interesting, any way to implement this on the cheap on a regular pc?

No. SAS controllers are not cheap. The cheapest ones currently start at around 170$ and if it's priced any lower it probably doesn't come with any cables which are NOT cheap either at over $40 per cable. So if you see a $130 SAS controller, just figure the cable is gonna bring you up to the cost of the more expensive one, so might as well have got the setup with the bundled cable.

 

[Edrick]

Interesting, any way to implement this on the cheap on a regular pc?

As I said in my other post, Intel (according to rumors), will be implementing SAS support in their X68 chipset (socket 2011 for SB) starting Q2/Q3 of next year.

http://vr-zone.com/mobile2/articles...tform--sandy-bridge-e--waimea-bay/8877-3.html

 

[TemjinGold]

As I said in my other post, Intel (according to rumors), will be implementing SAS support in their X68 chipset (socket 2011 for SB) starting Q2/Q3 of next year.

http://vr-zone.com/mobile2/articles...tform--sandy-bridge-e--waimea-bay/8877-3.html

With how expensive that would make things, I seriously doubt that will happen unless Intel plans on selling $500 mobos.

 

[corkyg]

The big advantage of the newer SSDs versus the older ones are their more robust wear levelling and management capabilities. In other words, you won't experience the sort of performance degradation with the new ones, that was common in the old ones. The newer ones also consume less electricity, take up less space, can be made more dense, and can be manufactured less expensively. But performance-wise, the increases and/or differences are not noticeable.

This. IOW, reliability and sustained top performance over time. And, every year down the road should see a reduced cost per GB as market volume increases and the technology matures.

 

[airdata]

The P6T Deluxe I had w\ my i7 build supported SAS onboard.

 

[MJinZ]

I don't think so.

My 80gb G2 X25-M will last me until it dies. I can maintain peak performance using the Intel Tool.

Will never buy a non-Intel SSD probably (unless another big maker comes out with a well supported one).

I will upgrade when I can get a good 256gb drive for about $300.

 

[Edrick]

With how expensive that would make things, I seriously doubt that will happen unless Intel plans on selling $500 mobos.

With SAS currently only in the server/workstation world, and everything is already overpriced there, I am not surprised companies like LSI and Adaptec sell their SAS controllers fo so much. I do not think the technology is that expensive to produce. And if Intel wanted to bring that technology to high level desktop, I am sure they could without a huge markup in price.

We already have/had $350 mobos for X58. I see the same price points for 2011 (X68) with SAS. I really hope they do it, but I would not be surprised if this rumor turned out not to be true.

 

[Edrick]

Will never buy a non-Intel SSD probably (unless another big maker comes out with a well supported one).

I made the mistake of buying a OCZ drive before I bought my Intel. The OCZ died on me after 2 months. OCZ had me do some firmware updating to try and fix the problem, but I had to revert back to IDE since their updating tool can not use ACHI. After the pain of updating, it still did not work. So they told me to leave the drive out of my computer for 2 days while it resets itself. (Never heard that before.) Surprisingly that worked, but I sold it right away and went to Intel and will never go back.