"Real World" CPU Test at THG

FlameDeer

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I think maybe due to mobo sensor higher reading.
Anyway this is an interesting stress test. AMD or Intel win? Guess... :)
 

klah

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Originally posted by: MDme
http://www.tomshardware.com/cp...md_system_in_operation

http://www.tomshardware.com/cp...217/stress_out-08.html

Can you believe it? Winchester "hotter" than Prescott? Is there an error here?

1. They are relying on the temperature reported by the motherboard which can differ by 15C even for motherboards using the same chipset, and 10C+ for the same motherboard with a different bios version.

2. The stock Intel cooler has a higher cfm fan than the stock AMD cooler; 62cfm vs. 41cfm.

 

MDme

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i figured that too since i know MSI and a lot of other mobos had issues with temp readings. i kinda felt that there wasn't any disclosure on THG's part since no bios versions, or settings were shown. no indication if CnQ or intel's thermal throttling were activated. i mean that intel CPU may not be running full 3.6ghz. duh.
 

AnandThenMan

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Their site is a huge mess, the reviews are suspect at best, at least 300K is loaded just for ads and ad servers. (adblock is a must if you visit toms) The site sucks, the reviews suck. Anand is a real review site, Toms is a joke and getting worse.

 

Mik3y

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tom is pretty biased towards intel, and this isnt the first time where he's bent the better odds towards intel products.
 

stelleg151

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Thats honestly so sad. So many people have winnies, and have them at 2.6 on air with no temp problems. My roomates prescott at stock 2.8 heats up his room, litterally its warmer than my room because of that processor.
 

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Originally posted by: klah
1. They are relying on the temperature reported by the motherboard which can differ by 15C even for motherboards using the same chipset, and 10C+ for the same motherboard with a different bios version
So, it's possible that the AMD may actually be running up to 15C higher, and it's possible that the Intel cpu may actually be running up to 15C cooler?

Or is it possible that they are both off in the same direction, approx the same amount?

Seems to me you are only presuming the AMD motherboard is reading high and/or the Intel readings are low. No? ;)

 

MDme

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i've got it. !!!! since they actually put the system side by side, the heat from the prescott probably diffuses close enough to the winchester. that's why the temps are so close. 59+ for intel and 60 for amd. lol :)
 

AnandThenMan

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Either way, anyone that builds systems knows flat out the .09 AMD's are cool running and consume MUCH less power than anything Intel has in the same performance envelope. Prescott literally does heat up a room, stelleg151 is not kidding. If you want to see what the power consumption really is for AMD 64's check this out:
http://www.hothardware.com/vie...rticleid=613&cid=1
 

Zebo

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Impossible when you look at power consumption. almost 3x for prescot and that power has to go someplace, heat.


Look at winchesters HSF's you have a thin (10mm) by 70mm low throw, low rpm fan on WC. You also have an all aluminum HS design which is not so great.

Look at prescotts HSF a full 25mm x 80mm fan decent throw AND runs higher rpm. You have a HS with copper core that rivals aftermarket HSFs. It has bigger alumium fins etc.

Meh another garbage review form toms

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klah

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: klah
1. They are relying on the temperature reported by the motherboard which can differ by 15C even for motherboards using the same chipset, and 10C+ for the same motherboard with a different bios version
So, it's possible that the AMD may actually be running up to 15C higher, and it's possible that the Intel cpu may actually be running up to 15C cooler?

Or is it possible that they are both off in the same direction, approx the same amount?

Seems to me you are only presuming the AMD motherboard is reading high and/or the Intel readings are low. No? ;)

I didn't presume anything. I stated two facts which make a direct comparison inappropriate. Any presupposed bias you detect probably stems from a persecution complex deriving from the strong AMD bias present from most of the posters on this board...

For example the latest bios for that MSI board reduced the temperatures reported by 10C, presumably so that customers would stop whining. I certainly wouldn't rely on it for an accurate measurement.

If one of the purposes of the article was to compare temperatures accurately they would have used their standard protocols and hardware(Maxim 1617) which they adapted from here: http://www.amd.com/us-en/asset...nd_tech_docs/24228.pdf

This was not even a periphery consideration of the article and thus no comparison should be inferred.



 

klah

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Originally posted by: biostud
The same cooler on both processors would have been more fair I think.

If the purpose of the article was to compare temperatures perhaps. But the purpose is to test retail parts, assembled with the stock hardware. If the retail Prescott comes with a larger, more powerful HSF then it is appropriate to use it in this instance.

 

Markfw

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I think the whole article is BS! No real temperature monitoring devices ?