Real Oath Taken WITHOUT a Bible...

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I heard he said allah-snackbar instead of so help me gawd.

Did I hear a "admiral ackbar" in there ?

Is he in the same Army as General Consensus?

Funny you should mention that, General Grievous comes to mind when I see Ocguy's trollbot posts.

 

[budafied]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

A Washington Post reader complained in a letter to the editor: "What could have been a moment for the ages was marred by Mr. Roberts' thoughtlessness. News outlets will report that the first words of our new president were "confused." Whether through design or an amazing lack of preparation, Justice Roberts's behavior was a disgrace."[/i]

They BOTH messed up. Barack interrupted Roberts after the first phrase, then Roberts messed up the next line. I love how this is blamed entirely on Roberts...

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I heard he said allah-snackbar instead of so help me gawd.

Did I hear a "admiral ackbar" in there ?

Is he in the same Army as General Consensus?

Funny you should mention that, General Grievous comes to mind when I see Ocguy's trollbot posts.

Geez you attack me even on an issue that we agree on. Im going to go turn on some emo music now. /cry

 

[Craig234]

This is actually an interesting legal issue IMO, because it pits one extreme - the utter harmlessness of the misplaced word, the clear intent to have taken the oath correctly - against the most important legal document we have haivng a black and white clear requirement, where a precedent to cut corners once opens the door to cut them again, making it very important the letter of the law be followed.

If you cut the corner here, what could be next - someone 34 running for president because he is 35 if you measure his age beginning at conception?

Defining someone born elsewhere as a 'natural born American' because they were born naturally, and they're an American?

As I've pondred this, I have to withdraw my mockery of those who would have tried to make an issue of it. I think their case is too legitimate to do that.

Barack handled this situation just right IMO, by quickly acting to get the oath done correctly.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Triumph
People act like the oath is some magic spell dreamed up out of Hogwarts Academy of Witchcraft and Wizardry, that somehow if you don't say it exactly right, the "charm" won't take and Obama will turn into a rat instead of the President. Give me a break.

This.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Triumph
People act like the oath is some magic spell dreamed up out of Hogwarts Academy of Witchcraft and Wizardry, that somehow if you don't say it exactly right, the "charm" won't take and Obama will turn into a rat instead of the President. Give me a break.

This.

Remarkable the lack of understand of basic legal ideas among some.

I guess, say, signing a contract is some 'magic spell' dreamed up out of Hogwarts, that somehow if you don't sign it right, the charm doesn't take and the contract turns into a rat instead of being a valid contract. Oh, wait, no, the law does require that valid signature for it to be a valid contract.

I guess being a natural-born citizen is some 'magic spell' too, and so on.

 

[AreaCode7O7]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

We're wondering here whether or not Barack Obama in fact is the president of the United States. They had a kind of garbled oath. It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts."

/facepalm

Since Biden hadn't yet taken the VP oath and power can pass for up to 48 hours to Secretary of State without an oath, there's an argument to be made that Condi Rice was/had power of president for about 2 minutes, thereby becoming our first black president (so sayeth a friend of mine, no sources cited.)

Heh.

 

[ericlp]

well, how the hell could he have used the bible? If you look closely at the picture you can see it on fire burning up in the back ground!

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

We're wondering here whether or not Barack Obama in fact is the president of the United States. They had a kind of garbled oath. It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts."

/facepalm

Since Biden hadn't yet taken the VP oath and power can pass for up to 48 hours to Secretary of State without an oath, there's an argument to be made that Condi Rice was/had power of president for about 2 minutes, thereby becoming our first black president (so sayeth a friend of mine, no sources cited.)

Heh.

Biden took the oath a few minutes before Obama did. After he did some classical music was played and I asked the question on here, if after he took the oath and before Obama did something would happen to Obama whether Bush would still be president, or that Biden would then be president.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
<---doesn't care

:thumbsup:

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

We're wondering here whether or not Barack Obama in fact is the president of the United States. They had a kind of garbled oath. It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts."

/facepalm

Since Biden hadn't yet taken the VP oath and power can pass for up to 48 hours to Secretary of State without an oath, there's an argument to be made that Condi Rice was/had power of president for about 2 minutes, thereby becoming our first black president (so sayeth a friend of mine, no sources cited.)

Heh.

Biden took the oath a few minutes before Obama did. After he did some classical music was played and I asked the question on here, if after he took the oath and before Obama did something would happen to Obama whether Bush would still be president, or that Biden would then be president.

It depends on whether or not they were on a ship or plane and crodded over the international dateline at the time, making it now yesterday.... /rolles eyes

Ugh...

 

[Carmen813]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am sure this will please the "non-believers" of this forum:

Text

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama retook his oath of office Wednesday after Chief Justice John Roberts flubbed while delivering it at Tuesday's inauguration.

The second oath -- also administered by Roberts -- took place at 7:35 p.m. Wednesday in the White House's Map Room. Roberts asked Obama whether he was ready.

"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Obama replied.

...

A Washington Post reader complained in a letter to the editor: "What could have been a moment for the ages was marred by Mr. Roberts' thoughtlessness. News outlets will report that the first words of our new president were "confused." Whether through design or an amazing lack of preparation, Justice Roberts's behavior was a disgrace."

And Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said: "We're wondering here whether or not Barack Obama in fact is the president of the United States. They had a kind of garbled oath. It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts."

...

Though a Bible was used in Tuesday's oath, one was not used for Wednesday's.

GT, your homework assignment for the week is to saw out-loud the phrase "Separation of church and state" 100 times before going to sleep.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Oh Noes!!!! Is this how they sneak a muslim into office?

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Oh Noes!!!! Is this how they sneak a muslim into office?

LOL...:thumbsup:


is the OP serious, or just a lame troll...nevermind...its just GT again

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Carmen813

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am sure this will please the "non-believers" of this forum:

Text

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama retook his oath of office Wednesday after Chief Justice John Roberts flubbed while delivering it at Tuesday's inauguration.

The second oath -- also administered by Roberts -- took place at 7:35 p.m. Wednesday in the White House's Map Room. Roberts asked Obama whether he was ready.

"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Obama replied.

...

A Washington Post reader complained in a letter to the editor: "What could have been a moment for the ages was marred by Mr. Roberts' thoughtlessness. News outlets will report that the first words of our new president were "confused." Whether through design or an amazing lack of preparation, Justice Roberts's behavior was a disgrace."

And Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said: "We're wondering here whether or not Barack Obama in fact is the president of the United States. They had a kind of garbled oath. It's just conceivable that this will end up going to the courts."

...

Though a Bible was used in Tuesday's oath, one was not used for Wednesday's.

GT, your homework assignment for the week is to saw out-loud the phrase "Separation of church and state" 100 times before going to sleep.

Teddy Roosevelt(every R's favorite maverick, well with some extreme cherry picking) didn't use bible nor did John Quincy Adams.

"According to official records kept by the Architect of the Capitol, Teddy Roosevelt is the only president who wasn't sworn in using a Bible; he took a rushed oath of office in 1901 following the assassination of William McKinley. However, it's rumored that LBJ was sworn in using a Catholic missal aboard Air Force One after Kennedy's assassination. John Quincy Adams, according to his own letters, placed his hand on a constitutional law volume rather than a Bible to indicate where his fealty lay. Franklin Pierce "affirmed" rather than swore his oath on the Bible, reportedly because of a crisis of faith following his son's death. There are no known inauguration Bibles for presidents John Adams through John Tyler; in fact, there's no concrete evidence that those early presidents used a Bible at all for the oath."

Text

I like the idea of using a constitutional law book, that's what they're really swearing to uphold, those are the ideals to live up to...nothing to do with snakes, fruit, burning bushes, or even locusts.

 

[Lemon law]

It seems that this is a total non issue, the people who are getting excited over this are people somehow hoping they will get rid of Obama with this non issue, so I recommend we let this thread go exclusively go to those that think that way. And they can keep it alive as long as they want, falling all over themselves to agree with each other, it keep them out of pool halls and other threads. Dare we hope, it might take a whole four years before it dawns on them that they have a total non issue. And then they can revive it again when the next oath of office comes up and they can discover some tiny flaw in the administration of the next oath.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Anyone else note the irony of a Bush SC nom bumbling his delivery in a very important speaking engagement? :laugh: