Real Chili - Beans or No Beans

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GalenOfEdgewood

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So, for real chili, does it come with Beans, or no Beans?

Well, the answer, for all of y'all that really don't know, it's no beans... Beans in chili, while tasty, isn't real chili.

So there, the age old question has been solved. :)
 
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Tauren

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<<Must've got your labels backward...>>

NO. I have never put beans in a stew ever.
 
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Lifer
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Read the History of Chili from the International Chili Society. Here's a quote:



<< There may not be an answer. There are, however, certain facts that one cannot overlook. The mixture of meat, beans, peppers, and herbs was known to the Incas, Aztecs, and Mayan Indians long before Columbus and the conquistadores. >>



BEANS BEANS BEANS!!!!!
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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Boy, y'all are just weird.... ;)

If I remember the history of it right, chili never had beans in it until the Great Depression. Then, the price of meat was too high for many people, but beans were still semi-affordable. The beans were then used as a meat substitute for reasons of cost.

Then again, up North, it may have been different... Yankees do speak kinda funny, so it wouldn't suprise me if they got chili wrong too. :p :D
 
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Lifer
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Galen, read my message above. Beans have been used since before this country was founded.
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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From the same place :



<< Nobody will swear that it was the first true Texas chili recipe, but they all say it was close to it:

Chili Con Carne

Cut up as much meat as you think you will need (any kind will do, but beef is probably best) in pieces about the size of a pecan. Put it in a pot, along with some suet (enough so as the meat won't stick to the sides of the pot), and cook it with about the same amount of wild onions, garlic, oregano, and chiles as you have got meat. Put in some salt. Stir it from time to time and cook it until the meat is as tender as you think it's going to get. >>



No beans... Hmmm....

Just read your message. :)
 
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Lifer
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I read that, but the quote I pointed out shows that it was made very much earlier in time using beans. I was looking at the recipes on the Chili cookoff page and some had beans, some didn't. Just a personal preference thing.
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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Here's another one with no beans! :)



<< From the research library of the Institute of Texan Cultures comes this link with the past - a Chili Queen recipe (slightly updated for shopping convenience):
Original San Antonio Chili

2 pounds beef shoulder, cut into ½-inch cubes
1 pound pork shoulder, cut into ½-inch cubes
¼ cup suet
¼ cup pork fat
3 medium-sized onions, chopped
6 garlic cloves, minced
1 quart water
4 ancho chiles
1 serrano chile
6 dried red chiles
1 tablespoon comino seeds, freshly ground
2 tablespoons Mexican oregano
Salt to taste

Place lightly floured beef and pork cubes in with suet and pork fat in heavy chili pot and cook quickly, stirring often. Add onions and garlic and cook until they are tender and limp. Add water to mixture and simmer slowly while preparing chiles. Remove stems and seeds from chiles and chop very finely. Grind chiles in molcajete and add oregano with salt to mixture. Simmer another 2 hours. Remove suet casing and skim off some fat. Never cook frijoles with chiles and meat.
Serve as separate dish.
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I guess I found the problem. Y'all don't consider Texas Chili real chili, and I don't consider anything but Texas Chili real chili. Hence, the impass.

Guess y'all are just wrong. :p (Jokin'!)
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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Yes, it really is. I'm just having fun here.

Like I mentioned, it appears that Texas Chili doesn't have beans in it. But the &quot;original&quot; chili did, at least, they think. They still don't know where chili originated from. At the bottom of the page, one guy said that the Utes created chili first, and it never had beans. At the beginning, they said that it does.

Of course, they also said that the war on, Tomatoes or no, rages on! :)

Out of curiosity, which way do you prefer, with or w/o tomatoes? I don't really care, but w/o tomatoes and w/o beans is the way to go...
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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<< BEANS!! I LOVE BEANS!! Give me beans or give me death. >>



Eat enough of 'em, you wish you had died. Stupid small rooms with poor ventilation. ;)
 
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MrDingleDangle

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<<


I guess I found the problem. Y'all don't consider Texas Chili real chili, and I don't consider anything but Texas Chili real chili. Hence, the impass.

Guess y'all are just wrong. :p (Jokin'!) >>



Damn texans...;)
 
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Lifer
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Freakin' Texans....;):)

I use some stewed tomatoes, but I've made it w/out them too.
 
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Jfur

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<< BEANS!! I LOVE BEANS!! Give me beans or give me death. >>



Eat enough of 'em, you wish you had died. Stupid small rooms with poor ventilation. ;) >>



excuse me....

a meat-induced fart is far more RANK than bean-induced one... perhaps less plentiful, but far more STANK!

:disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:
 
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GalenOfEdgewood

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<< a meat-induced fart is far more RANK than bean-induced one... perhaps less plentiful, but far more STANK!

:disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: :disgust: >>



Never had one, so I'll just take your word on that one.

Of course, with y'all's chili having beans, it'll have meat too, so chili for y'all must be a painful experience. :D
 
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