Ready To Buy For Build, But I Have A Couple Questions

RELiG

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Ok, so I have a build that I was gonna try and go for:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T47Wpg

Questions regarding this build:
1) Do I not need a CPU cooler?
2) Id like opinions on a case
3) Do I need a sound card?
4) Do I need a case fan?
5) Windows 8.1 or 10?
6) Do I need a fan controller?
and lastly, whats the main benefits of i7? Like what would someone be wanting or needing to do with their CPU, to where as an i7 would be ideal and an i5 would be less desirable?

My MAIN use will be streaming and playing MOSTLY H1Z1

Im somewhat trying to be able to stay relevant, because better and new products are always being developed,


My friend suggested that if I want to take streaming seriously I should do a dual build.
Build a gaming PC for around $12-1300 and streaming PC for around $800.

I would like to get some opinions from some posters here.

Thanks!
 

nsafreak

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A mod might want to move this post to General Hardware as it might get a bit more attention. That being said:

1) Well, the CPU on the list comes with one. However it is a K series CPU where most folks are overclocking it. If you do plan on overclocking then yes you'll need a better cooler than the one that comes with the unit.

2) Cases tend to be a lot of personal preference and sometimes needs. The current favorites nowadays tend to be the Fractal Designs Define R5 and various Corsair series.

3) As long as you get a motherboard with decent onboard sound you should be fine.

4) Most cases come with at least 2 or 3 case fans, whether or not you need more is dependent on the case you choose and the components inside.

5) I'd go with Windows 8.1 and reserve your free upgrade to Windows 10. There seem to be some issues with some streaming apps that are currently being resolved.

6) Only if you plan on using more fans than the motherboard supports

7) The main benefits are that it is a bit higher clocked than the equivalent i5 at default clocks and it has hyperthreading which helps in multi-tasking.

Insofar as doing a dual build I don't think that's really necessary as you'd need a way to capture the game video that you would be sending to the capture PC and that may well put it over the $800 budget for that part. All of that being said I do believe you're over-spending on some parts and missing some others, here's a build I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($322.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M OC Formula Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.62 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.95 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse
Headphones: Sennheiser HD 598 Headphones ($150.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers ($58.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2162.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-25 20:20 EDT-0400

Changes that I made:

Motherboard - It doesn't sound like you're going to do any serious overclocking in which case you were seriously overspending on the motherboard. New motherboard is quite capable and will work just fine for this build

RAM - Again a bit of overspend and DDR3-1866 will yield zero performance difference between good DDR3-1600

CPU Cooler - Added one, if anything it'll at least be a bit quieter than the stock cooler

SSD - I pretty much never do a build nowadays without one. They improve the overall responsiveness of any system that they're put in by a good bit.

GPU - There's a pretty big difference between a 980 Ti and a 980 in terms of performance. For the game listed tbh a GTX 970 would suffice but if you're willing to spend the cash you're better off with a GTX 980 Ti

Case - One of my favorites but really a lot of it is personal taste, feel free to choose another one

Other notes - I would highly recommend looking into some way to hardline this PC if you intend to do live game streaming. Wireless networking has gotten better and you can game on it for the most part. However gaming and doing streaming of that game at the same time over wireless is asking for problems.
 
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AgentUnknown

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Why are you going for an older gen cpu? It's a great CPU, but if you are building a new one, go with skylake. It would be different if you were just upgrading. I would get a CPU cooler after once the comp is running and you start overclocking.
 

nsafreak

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I was thinking about what the other posters stated above as I did the original build. So I've put together an alternative Skylake build. It's a little bit pricier but not by much and it has tech that's just a bit more future proof.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($364.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($143.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($16.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Sennheiser HD 598 Headphones ($150.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers ($58.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2250.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-26 01:29 EDT-0400
 

RELiG

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Thanks for your input guys! Ill have to ponder which direction I want to go for sure. Also, I understand doing all of this over a wireless connection is asking for problems. I was going to get a powerline adapter to help bolster the wireless signal, but even then I realize the connection could still be shaky
 

nsafreak

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Thanks for your input guys! Ill have to ponder which direction I want to go for sure. Also, I understand doing all of this over a wireless connection is asking for problems. I was going to get a powerline adapter to help bolster the wireless signal, but even then I realize the connection could still be shaky


You can just run an CAT6 cable from the powerline adapter to your PC. If you have other devices in the area that need to connect wirelessly you can simply run the powerline connection to a wireless router, set it to AP mode and then run a CAT6 cable from it to the PC.
 

Denithor

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I can say, from personal experience, powerline adapters are great! Just as stable and fast as a regular wired connection, none of the drops etc of wireless.