RE: New hi jacker warnings

[Nocturnal]

I was just at fark and read a blip that said something about hi jackers planning to hi jack planes again. Then it said something about how will they avoid being crashed to death by 120 passengers on the plane.

How many of you would stand up if you saw about six-seven men stand up with box cutters or something similar to that that could be used as a weapon?

Would you risk getting lacerated by the object if it was going to possibly save your life and a bunch of others? Do you think you could be found guilty of murder if you and a bunch of other people were to murder all six or seven of the hi jackers? I wonder what would happen now... after 9/11.

I'll be quite honest, I'm afraid of flying because of this. Please discuss.

 

[Eli]

I just saw this on the news.

I say.. good luck to them. It isn't going to be as easy this time around.

 

[isekii]

Get carry on luggage and start throwing it at em , then charge.

I aint gonna die from an Airplane crash that's for sure.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Umm, who wouldn't stand up to them now? I can either get a cut, or I can explode in a giant fireball of hell.

 

[jlee]

I'd rather receive a nasty cut and a scar I can tell my grandchildren about than be part of Mr. Jones' fertilizer.

 

[TheNinja]

I think they would have a tough time hijacking planes this time around b/c of the fact that ordinary people on the plane will fight them. It used to be that everyone would listen to hijackers b/c the hijackers usually landed safely somewhere and then bargained for something in exchange for the hostages. But with the new hijackers using hte planes as weapons, people will not stand for it and will fight them...I like to think I would stand up to them, besides a box cutter is more than likely not going to kill you unless they get a hold of you from behind and slash your throat, if they are just swinging it around wildly you have a pretty good shot and taking him out with only a few deep cuts.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Sh!t I'm flying to Vegas Labor day weekend....they could go after the MGM Grand :Q

 

[loup garou]

I know where the defib's are located on most large planes, so I'd give em the juice...

 

[Angrymarshmello]

People won't stand for that $hit anymore. I know I wouldn't

 

[TheNinja]

Originally posted by: werk
I know where the defib's are located on most large planes, so I'd give em the juice...

That won't work....AED's only shock when the heart needs it, it isn't like a giant stun gun.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
People won't stand for that $hit anymore. I know I wouldn't

Exactly. Besides that, they're not toting their usual AK47 and perhaps a Ronco knife set, I don't think they can take down a group of angry Americans.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Eli
I just saw this on the news.

I say.. good luck to them. It isn't going to be as easy this time around.

This was on the evening news? My God, our nation is so manipulated...

 

[LordSnailz]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
People won't stand for that $hit anymore. I know I wouldn't

yeah, that was my reaction at first, but there's always the fear that no one will back you up. I would throw my carryon and charge at one guy but there are 6 others that would just st@b me to death ... it's a tough call when you're actually in the situation ... maybe yes if I can get some eye contact with some other ppl. and do it at the same time or something ...

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Staley8

Originally posted by: werk
I know where the defib's are located on most large planes, so I'd give em the juice...

That won't work....AED's only shock when the heart needs it, it isn't like a giant stun gun.

Damn...my plot's been foiled!

 

[TheNinja]

I think the problem is when they grab a stewardess and say if anyone tries anything they will slice her throat. Then what do you do?

 

[Gunbuster]

They have so many other methods they could use to attack, it would be truly stupid to try the airplane thing again

 

[bananaFish]

I for one would feel obligated to try something to prevent the harm or loss of life of another person. Although the odds of another hijacking of another flight from a US airport have got to be extremely low.

I'm not saying that a hijacking won't happen again but it is more likely that a plane will be purchased or stolen and used in a 9/11 style attack. Like this

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: Staley8
I think the problem is when they grab a stewardess and say if anyone tries anything they will slice her throat. Then what do you do?

get your own drink and peanuts?

 

[Slacker]

You're on a loaded plane that has just been taken over by ceramic knife wielding terrorists, when you stand and call for support against them one of them grabs a young girl and holds the knife to her throat.

What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO!?

Logically you know that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, but you can not think logically in a life or death situation.

Say you rush the terrorist and he kills the girl, slashes her throat and tosses her to the ground and then slices you up and tosses your dead body to the ground, do you think anyone else will have the balls to go for it? they will be terrified, knowing that one way or another they are going to die, if they do nothing they will live a bit longer and maybe die quickly in the crash instead of getting stabbed to death.

 

I would go all out on them. There is no way they will do it again. I would rather crash the plane then let them get away with it again.

That said, I think these people are idiots. They got away with it once, and it was a clever exploit. However, after all the threats and yammering about attacking us what have they done since 9/11? The fact that the idiot they just caught thought he could collapse the Brooklyn Bridge by cutting it's suspention cables just goes to show we are not dealing with as bright a lot as we thought. I live two blocks from the bridge. There is now way a bunch of Arabs with gas cutters are going anywhere near it, plus it still would probably not fall over.

All these cowards do is talk sh*t it seems.

Say you rush the terrorist and he kills the girl, slashes her throat and tosses her to the ground and then slices you up and tosses your dead body to the ground, do you think anyone else will have the balls to go for it? they will be terrified, knowing that one way or another they are going to die, if they do nothing they will live a bit longer and maybe die quickly in the crash instead of getting stabbed to death.

That was pre-9/11. There is no way a group of Americans would stand for that crap again. Their little exploit died as soon as the guys wrecked shop and took back the last plane on 9/11.

 

[Ime]

Originally posted by: Slacker
You're on a loaded plane that has just been taken over by ceramic knife wielding terrorists, when you stand and call for support against them one of them grabs a young girl and holds the knife to her throat.

What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO!?

Logically you know that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, but you can not think logically in a life or death situation.

Say you rush the terrorist and he kills the girl, slashes her throat and tosses her to the ground and then slices you up and tosses your dead body to the ground, do you think anyone else will have the balls to go for it? they will be terrified, knowing that one way or another they are going to die, if they do nothing they will live a bit longer and maybe die quickly in the crash instead of getting stabbed to death.

He'd be grabbed from behind before he could cut the girl.

Dude, you gotta understand... after 9/11 EVERYONE jumps up to fight on a plane. Trust me, they are not going to hijack anymore American planes anytime soon.

They might very well try to blow them out of the sky, however.

 

[flexy]

. There is no way a group of Americans would stand for that crap again. Their little exploit died as soon as the guys wrecked shop and took back the last plane on 9/11.

remember,

9/11...the 'problem' for the hijackers was that all the planes did not take off simultaneosly. As far as i remember some of the flights were delayed. People on board the later planes had cellphones and radio and stuff...and they heard what happened. They knew in what situation they're in. I remember seen on tv the reports of the one lady talking on the phone and someone telling her that a plane crashed into the WTC.

What happened ? On flight 93(the one who went down in Pennsylvania) passengers fighted the hijackers, *already* on the very same day, 9/11. This is not an issue which only comes up AFTER 9/11....they already made one attempt of the terrorists impossible on the very same day.

 

[sharkeeper]

What if they have a working notebook that is indeed a bomb? After all, any idiot can dissect a Li Ion pack and re-wire it so it can boot up and appear to be a working lappy to security. The remaining space in the batt pack is filled with enough C4 to fatally damage the plane if detonated at the right place and time.

Good thing Richard Reid was as dumb as a brick. If he went in the lavatory and lit off his shoes, that plane and its passengers would have been FUBAR.

What's to prevent suicide bombers from walking into a crowded mall on a Saturday evening with a backpack and pulling the det cord?

The same could happen at drive through bank windows...set the timer for 10 sec, put in the tube, push send and drive off!

Yes there are hundreds if not thousands of ways Americans can (and most likely will) get attacked once again.

-DAK-

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: shuttleteam
What if they have a working notebook that is indeed a bomb? After all, any idiot can dissect a Li Ion pack and re-wire it so it can boot up and appear to be a working lappy to security. The remaining space in the batt pack is filled with enough C4 to fatally damage the plane if detonated at the right place and time.

That's definitely possible, the only thing is, that's a relatively "small" payoff in terms of casualities. I suppose it depends on whether the terrorists are willing to downgrade to smaller, less critical attacks, in order to be successful. Because I can guarantee you, between all of the new air marshals, and the knowledge that every American has, there will never be a successful hijacking of an American plane. They may blow up, or they may crash from attempted hijackings, but there will never be another 9/11 using commercial airliners. Now, if somebody were to buy a plane, as was suggested, then I could see it happening.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: Slacker
You're on a loaded plane that has just been taken over by ceramic knife wielding terrorists, when you stand and call for support against them one of them grabs a young girl and holds the knife to her throat.

What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO!?

Logically you know that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, but you can not think logically in a life or death situation.

Say you rush the terrorist and he kills the girl, slashes her throat and tosses her to the ground and then slices you up and tosses your dead body to the ground, do you think anyone else will have the balls to go for it? they will be terrified, knowing that one way or another they are going to die, if they do nothing they will live a bit longer and maybe die quickly in the crash instead of getting stabbed to death.

I just HOPE that pilots now actually carry GUNS...

If such a scenario is AGAIN possible..then all the security measures/home land security/terror alerts etc...what the **** are they good for ?

Do you want to tell me there is a likelihood that some islamic guys go on planes again...with some sort of weapon..devices/whatever.....and then more or less the same scenario can happen AGAIN ???

If yes...i think we might have ONE serious PROBLEM...!