RE:IMAC PROBLEM

SolidSnake

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I read some of that Imac post earlier on, (it was quite funny)when I remember something that happened to a friend of mine at work. She was using an Imac to register a customer in a dance class and the thing caught on fire!!! She called the tech department and told them it was on fire and they said "...oh that busy eh?" And she said "...no, the Goddam computer is on fire." Any way, they came upstairs and replaced the bbq'd hard-drive with a new one and rebooted, 20 minutes later she was registering people again. Whoever designed a computer with the hottest components around the monitor should be shot!!! Anyway, she finally realizes why everyone calls them ICRAP's!
 

KarsinTheHutt

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That's very odd.. I've never heard of an iMac catching on fire, but they don't seem to have very good ventilation and I beleive they have NO active cooling whatsoever.
 

Dennis Travis

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Is that for sure that there is no cooling at all in the Imac? If so that is not very smart of Apple at all with all those components crammed in to such a small case and a monitor in there to boot! Even the old Mac SE had a cooling fan. What are they thinking? :D

 

KarsinTheHutt

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A lot of my friends at school had iMacs. I never heard a fan and when i touched the case it was pretty hot.

The PowerPC G3 supposedly done'st generate much heat - that's apple's take on it.
 

Sukhoi

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The PowerPC G3 supposedly done'st generate much heat - that's apple's take on it.

That could be true, but there's also a monitor sitting next to it, and those create a ton of heat.
 

KarsinTheHutt

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No kidding - and all that heat gets trapped there, especially if the machine is placed in an unventilated area. I wonder what the failure rates of these machines are.
 

hubbs

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At our school all they run is MACS but the teachers get IMACS and we get PowerPC's. We had a lot of parents complaining because they use MACS and 98% of homeowners use PC's so kids can't do thier computer projects at home. So then they got Mac Laptops which were about the slowest computer in the world and still they don't have enough to please all the kids that nead one.
 

SSP

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Well... if the kids can't do their work on a PC at home, cause they were using PPC's at school, what?s the point of buying more Mac laptops?

I'm confused. :(
 

MWink

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At my school the science department has MACs. The rest of the school has Acer (yuck) PCs. The students get to use Imacs and the teachers get those nice ones with a floppy. Those systems are horrible. I have trouble with the keyboard and especially the mouse. Luckly I am the student admin of the PC part of the school. I keep my distance from those Macs.

Just to show how little my science teacher knows about computers, at the end of the year he had us go through our files and delete all the ones we created over they year to make space for a new program they are getting this summer. Our files were just word processing files. They are only a few K each. The drives have 5GB or so free. BTW, he also "pecks" instead of typing. It takes him the same amount of time to type one line as it has taken me to type this whole thing. :)

Also, a friend (a computer literate friend) and I spend half the year trying to break the Imacs. Too bad it would not let us format the hard disk. Also, does anyone know what happens when you put a HD magnet (EXTREMELY powerful) on the screen? ;) Look at the pretty colors!
 

HannibalX

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My entire school district (Orange County Florida) used Macs excluseivly until last year when they started buying Dell's like mad. I love PC's but Dell desktops are just as crappy as any Mac I have used.
 

thorin

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"Also, does anyone know what happens when you put a HD magnet (EXTREMELY powerful) on the screen? Look at the pretty colors! "

That's not rocket science Mr. Student PC Admin :p that happens to any Monitor or TV (CRT). Why do you think computer speakers are shielded? And why do you think monitors almost all (now) have a degause button.

Thorin
 

Sillyputty

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Funny, I would've unplugged the machine. If that didn't put out the fire, I would've tried a fire extinguisher. Failing that, 911 would be the next step. Calling tech support is way down on the list of things to do while something is burning.

People complain why the education system is in such disarray these days. I'm guessing that Mwink and his merry band of cronies don't help matters any by being destructive rubes.

Instead of trying to break things, why not use your tremendous mental abilities in helping others? Perhaps to help those who are not as computer literate as yourselves? Just a thought.

iMacs use nothing but passive cooling, no fans or even clever ducting.
 

jmcoreymv

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Trinitron: I find that hard to believe, IMO dell is the best prebuilt computer out there. While I build my own Id have to say if I didnt or I worked for a company Id definitely go with dell.
 

thorin

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"Funny, I would've unplugged the machine. If that didn't put out the fire, I would've tried a fire extinguisher. Failing that, 911 would be the next step. Calling tech support is way down on the list of things to do while something is burning."

I highly doubt that it was actually "on fire" if it was it would require more then a HD swap. It was probably a little puff of smoke off the HD controller or something.

"Instead of trying to break things, why not use your tremendous mental abilities in helping others? Perhaps to help those who are not as computer literate as yourselves? Just a thought."

I agree totally!

Thorin
 

Zorba

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Also, does anyone know what happens when you put a HD magnet (EXTREMELY powerful) on the screen? Look at the pretty colors!

Yeah, my monitor does that if I get my sub. too close to it. Anyway to break it, you should've broken off one of the pins for the PS (where the cable connects to the PS)

Okay this posts sucks, but it is 3 AM give me a break.
 

HannibalX

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jmcoreymv, out of the 70+ brand new Dell Optiplex's we bought about 60 of them needed reloaded within the first 3 months of use. We had monitors die and HD's go bad.

NEC makes the best desktops for business/school/light home use.
 

thorin

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"out of the 70+ brand new Dell Optiplex's we bought about 60 of them needed reloaded within the first 3 months of use."

Then you guys are doing something seriously farked up to those systems. I used to support about 1500 Dell PCs in a corporation with over 70k of them. And we never had that many problems. The majority of our desktops are from the Optiplex line. We also use KA (kick ass) Dell NT servers, laptops, and docking stations.

Thorin
 

HannibalX

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Well it may be the stupid idiot students fvcking them up, but every day for comp class I had to check on at least three or four of them that can't boot or can't print or can't read a disc etc.

I can't be there all six periods of the day, so no telling what the other students did to them. All I am saying is though, with all my PC exspearience Dell desktops are crap, and all the ones I have ever used have been overwhelmingly so.
 

Sukhoi

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Trinitron, why not reghost each Dell once a week (or even day) if you're having problems? Just create two hard drive partitions. Have C have all the good stuff on it, and have students save stuff on D. Then since Norton Ghost works over networks, you could easily reghost the C partition of all the computers whenever you needed to.
 

SSP

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yeah, watch out for those students. I am a student my self, and those fuc*ers break the computers just to get back at the schools/teachers. Don't ask me why... some of them are too high on you know what.
 

Erasmus-X

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Well, you can't really blame all of that on Dell. Their Optiplex line are excellent managed PCs. The problem with many high schools is that they have several braindead admins that are pretty much fresh out of high school and make poor decisions on which operating systems to use on the workstations.

Example: my old high school has been exclusively buying Dells and Compaqs since like 1993. The problem is when they decide to install NT4 Server on their servers and then use buggy Win95 with a bunch of bloated security software (most of which would had been standard with NT4 Workstation) and scripts just to cut up-front costs. What they don't realize is that they almost triple their expenses paying net admins overtime for a ridiculous number of network problems. They finally upgraded all of the workstations to NT4 the term after I graduated and the network admin told me that 3/4 of their old problems were gone (far less crashes, less crap to configure, etc. etc.).

The whole point here is that you can buy the best machines money can buy and still have problems if you don't configure and manage them correctly.