RBG vs CMYK

palindrome

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I didn't know where to put this thread since it doesn't really seem to fall under any one category....so it ended up here.

I've made some new business cards for myself and it involves a nice bright, lively shade of green. Now, of course, when I convert that to CMYK, it turns into what looks like grass puree, a lovely shade of puke green. This color green is part of the business's logo and the green CMYK it converts to is so far off it looks awful. How does one go about printing something in vibrant green? Do I need to find someone who can print using premixed special ink or something? What should I do, aside from changing the color of the logo? (aside from suicide)
 

FoBoT

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pigments and light are different

there is someone around here that is in the printing industry and can splain it
 

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Colors on your computer monitor has a much wider gamut than what can be printed on paper - reds are vibrant red, whites are super bright white and greens are sickeningly green. This is what can be represented by an RGB colour palette.

CMYK on the otherhand attempts to match the extents of what can be printed onto paper, so obviouly things are duller.

When your target output is print, always design in CMYK.
 

palindrome

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
pigments and light are different

there is someone around here that is in the printing industry and can splain it

I've checked color palettes that show the difference between RGB and CMYK. I just don't understand where people print green? I have a fujifilm finepix S5100 box sitting in my closet with the exact same green in our logo, but I cannot duplicate it with CMYK...
 

palindrome

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Originally posted by: hiromizu
Colors on your computer monitor has a much wider gamut than what can be printed on paper - reds are vibrant red, whites are super bright white and greens are sickeningly green. This is what can be represented by an RGB colour palette.

CMYK on the otherhand attempts to match the extents of what can be printed onto paper, so obviouly things are duller.

When your target output is print, always design in CMYK.

I know how to design in cmyk. I didn't make the original logo for the business. I'm just trying to match what was previously done. I just need to know HOW to print something with that color green. If a color in the visible exists, there must be a way to print it!
 

ThePresence

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This is why you get proofs.
Your monitor is probably not calibrated correctly.
Your desktop printer is probably not giving you correct color either.
 

palindrome

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This is why you get proofs.
Your monitor is probably not calibrated correctly.
Your desktop printer is probably not giving you correct color either.

Okay, obviously you didn't read the thread. I haven't printed anything yet. I've only converted my business card to CMYK using photoshop CS3. I've played around with ALL of my options for green colors using CMYK, nothing comes close. The only assertion I can make is that I might have to print using a pantone color palette. Now all I need to find is some place that can do this without charging an arm and a leg.
 

palindrome

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Originally posted by: mryellow2
Pull out the pantone book and pick a spot color.

Any idea what I can get business cards printed with a pantone color added? Cheaply perhaps....? :p
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This is why you get proofs.
Your monitor is probably not calibrated correctly.
Your desktop printer is probably not giving you correct color either.

yea my roommate just bought a Spyder calibration kit for both the monitor and printer, because he was having the same issue with photos. It's all about matching the profiles so that the printer correctly interprets the RGB values if designed in RGB. He didn't get much of a change in the display but a huge change in the prints.
 

homercles337

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Pick out a flat special mixed color. These are called pantone colors. CMYK is four color process, you can pick specific pantone colors instead. It should be cheaper too.