Raspberry Pi 2 now out

Elixer

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I suppose this qualifies as a 'gadget'...

Interesting thing here is, that if you buy one of these, MS will give you win 10 for free.


http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/
Let’s get the good stuff out of the way above the fold. Raspberry Pi 2 is now on sale for $35 (the same price as the existing Model B+), featuring:

A 900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU (~6x performance)
1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM (2x memory)
Complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1

Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.
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For the last six months we’ve been working closely with Microsoft to bring the forthcoming Windows 10 to Raspberry Pi 2. Microsoft will have much more to share over the coming months. The Raspberry Pi 2-compatible version of Windows 10 will be available free of charge to makers
 

poofyhairguy

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The last Pi was the ultimate project box. So many times I am looking for new things to do with my x86 HTPC and I find myself on Pi forums because that is where those kinds of ideas happened.

I have a lot of respect for the first Pi and I hope the second one can be the hobbyist box the first one was.
 

magomago

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is this like 1 year free of win10? or is this like a perpetual license?

edit: nm it looks like a liscense for the Raspberry pi to encourage people not to use some kind of *nix lol.
 

Graze

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is this like 1 year free of win10? or is this like a perpetual license?

edit: nm it looks like a liscense for the Raspberry pi to encourage people not to use some kind of *nix lol.

Windows 10 upgrade is free for users of Win 8 and Win 7 if done within a year of the release of Windows 10.
I dont know why people find this so hard to comprehend!
 

EvilYoda

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Windows 10 upgrade is free for users of Win 8 and Win 7 if done within a year of the release of Windows 10.
I dont know why people find this so hard to comprehend!

Because you're talking about the wrong thing!
 

Graze

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Because you're talking about the wrong thing!

you're thick!

He said
is this like 1 year free of win10? or is this like a perpetual license?

There is no one year license of Windows 10 like he was implying.
People got confused when Microsoft announce windows 10 was a free upgrade for Windows 7 and Windows 8 user if done within a year of its realise, and thought Windows 10 would stop working after a year!
 

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i read it at 7am. by 10am, sold out from the 2 main resellers! damn
i still have version B for streaming music and vids in all the rooms. cant wait to see what this version 2 can do!
 

EvilYoda

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you're thick!

He said


There is no one year license of Windows 10 like he was implying.
People got confused when Microsoft announce windows 10 was a free upgrade for Windows 7 and Windows 8 user if done within a year of its realise, and thought Windows 10 would stop working after a year!

Nevermind, you still don't get it. He's referring to the announcement that there will be a rpi2-compatible Windows 10 build that there's little information about. Since it's an A7 chipset, people are assuming that it'll be Windows RT. This has nothing to do with the Windows 10 announcement from last week.

"you're thick"...cute.
 

mmntech

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yeah...what do you guys do with your raspberries?

Jam radars. :sneaky:

I like the concept of the Pi. It's a great board to teach students programming and electronics without breaking the bank. It's pretty weak sauce though compared to even a lot of lower end smartphones. So it's not going to work well if you try using it for everyday computing.

Is anybody making small/decent ARM boards with more horsepower? I've been toying around with Android-X86 as part of a DIY smart TV project. However, it's a bit flaky with some apps.
 

EvilYoda

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I'd actually really like to play with one if it had some sort of SATA controller (maybe there's a daughter board available for the rpi?) - I'd like to build a NAS with RAID capabilities. The cheap Synology/QNAS ones aren't bad at just over $100 but it'd be more fun to build one and the specs all seem pretty on par.
 

Cerb

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The BBB has PRUSS, analog channels, built-in flash, and separate Ethernet, so is a ton more useful, IMO, if you're not looking to do much with video. But, it costs more, too. Looks like the USB and Ethernet are still using the same buggy chip as the first Pi :(. Nice, but I was hoping for new USB and Ethernet much more than a quad core (that said, a dual or quad A9 I could get into).
 

Graze

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Nevermind, you still don't get it. He's referring to the announcement that there will be a rpi2-compatible Windows 10 build that there's little information about. Since it's an A7 chipset, people are assuming that it'll be Windows RT. This has nothing to do with the Windows 10 announcement from last week.

"you're thick"...cute.

Jesus Christ man! I think you are doing this one purpose now!

I know what he was talking about. Like no shit he is talking about Windows 10 for the Raspberry Pi but referenced an incorrect assumption made about Windows 10 and it being free for one year(worth of use)
 
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Red Squirrel

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Can't find anywhere in Canada selling this, but I want one. In fact, I kind of want 3. If I can't figure out my triple monitor situation in Linux I might use 2 to drive the two side monitors and use synergy. Using that now but with a full blown PC, which uses way more power and is a bigger point of failure. If it can supposedly run windows 10 I imagine it will run a basic Linux desktop fine too. It's just to open up ssh consoles and browser windows and stuff anyway, nothing intensive.

Then the 3rd one would be to play with. I'm looking at redesigning my home environmental monitoring system. Original plan was to use a RPI as front end and Arduino for the actual controls, but given the RPI has 40 GPIO pins... may as well use those. Not sure if it has any analog pins though, but I can use separate ADCs for that. 40 GPIO is actually quite a lot of pins, because stuff like I2C can have multiple devices sharing only a few pins.

Anyone familiar with the GPIO side of RPI? Not finding much about how to actually interact with them or if there are prebuilt classes for i2c, Maxim 1-wire and other stuff of that nature like the Arduino has. From quick googling it looks like they are accessed with python, but not sure if that's the only way.
 

Cerb

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Is there a small screen I could attach to the pi2? Want to use it to demo something.
There are many. Or, you could use a big one :). It has an HDMI port, and analog composite video output, and supports common and uncommon resolutions and refresh rates.
 
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Cerb

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Not sure if it has any analog pins though, but I can use separate ADCs for that.
Being compatible with the original RPi, I'm going with no, on the analog. There are varied libraries out there, and sample code snippets, for common ADCs, though. If Arduinos would work, though, you can get USB-connecting clones super cheap on eBay, often cheaper than ADC boards (like $4/ea).

40 GPIO is actually quite a lot of pins, because stuff like I2C can have multiple devices sharing only a few pins.
There's at least one I2C bus, and SPI port, though other pins can be used for more SPI, via bit-banging.
 

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Jam radars. :sneaky:

I like the concept of the Pi. It's a great board to teach students programming and electronics without breaking the bank. It's pretty weak sauce though compared to even a lot of lower end smartphones. So it's not going to work well if you try using it for everyday computing.

Is anybody making small/decent ARM boards with more horsepower? I've been toying around with Android-X86 as part of a DIY smart TV project. However, it's a bit flaky with some apps.
If I remember correctly, the GPU in the original PI had some grunt in it, even compared to smartphones.

Now, if this thing can decode high profile 1080P, then you've very cheap HTPC material.

edit: nvmd, the GPU is the same.
 
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If I remember correctly, the GPU in the original PI had some grunt in it, even compared to smartphones.

Now, if this thing can decode high profile 1080P, then you've very cheap HTPC material.

edit: nvmd, the GPU is the same.

I'm using an older Pi as HTPC actually. So I imagine this one will be more than capable too. Maybe not with Windows but something lightweight like a RPI Linux distro is not a problem. I'm using RaspBMC on mine.

I did have some issues with 1080p content at the start but turns out I had to modify my NFS settings, I forget what I had to do exactly but had to do with the way it was buffering data. (movies stored on NAS)
 

poofyhairguy

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If I remember correctly, the GPU in the original PI had some grunt in it, even compared to smartphones.

Now, if this thing can decode high profile 1080P, then you've very cheap HTPC material.

edit: nvmd, the GPU is the same.
Actually early reports say the Pi 2 makes a nice little HTPC. It does a few things no Android box can do, but Kodi runs great on there by reports.

The GPU limits the use case to those with more basic needs but that is a lot of people. Just playing a file on just a tv is nice. So is CEC support.