Rasmussen Polls Were Biased And Inaccurate

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Now that the 2010 elections are over and the actual results are in, data analysis confirms what we already knew: Rasmussen Reports put out the most inaccurate polling data of any major polling firm.

No wonder Fox News contracted them for so many polls. Rasmussen was also popular with some of our forum members as well: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2081525

Not only were they off by an average of 5.8 points, Rasmussen also produced one of the largest polling errors ever recorded for a general election: a whopping 40 points in the Hawaii Senate race. Rasmussen also overestimated the standing of Republican candidates by an average of 4 points.

The most accurate polling data came from Quinnipiac University.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...rate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly
By NATE SILVER
Every election cycle has its winners and losers: not just the among the candidates, but also the pollsters.

On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.

Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac Univesrity, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well.

What follows is a preliminary analysis of polls released to the public in the final 21 days of the campaign. Our process here is quite simple: we’ve taken all such polls in our database, and assessed how accurate they were, on average, in predicting the margin separating the two leading candidates in each race. For instance, a poll that had the Democrat winning by 2 percentage points in a race where the Republican actually won by 4 would have an error of 6 points.

We’ve also assessed whether a company’s polls consistently missed in either a Democratic or Republican direction — that is, whether they were biased. The hypothetical poll I just described would have had a 6 point Democratic bias, for instance.

The analysis covers all polls issued by firms in the final three weeks of the campaign, even if a company surveyed a particular state multiple times. In our view, this provides for a more comprehensive analysis than focusing solely on a firm’s final poll in each state, since polling has a tendency to converge in the final days of the campaign, perhaps because some firms fear that their results are an outlier and adjust them accordingly.

(After a couple of weeks, when results in all races have been certified, we’ll update our official pollster ratings, which use a more advanced process that attempts to account, for instance, for the degree of difficulty in polling different types of races.)

The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.

Moreover, Rasmussen’s polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average. In just 12 cases, Rasmussen’s polls underestimated the standing of the Democrat by 3 or more points. But it did so for the Republican candidate in 55 cases — that is, in more than half of the polls that it issued.

If one focused solely on the final poll issued by Rasmussen Reports or Pulse Opinion Research in each state — rather than including all polls within the three-week interval — it would not have made much difference. Their average error would be 5.7 points rather than 5.8, and their average bias 3.8 points rather than 3.9.

Nor did it make much difference whether the polls were branded as Rasmussen Reports surveys, or instead, were commissioned for Fox News by its subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research. (Both sets of surveys used an essentially identical methodology.) Polls branded as Rasmussen Reports missed by an average of 5.9 points and had a 3.9 point bias. The polls it commissioned on behalf of Fox News had a 5.1 point error, and a 3.6 point bias.

Rasmussen’s polls have come under heavy criticism throughout this election cycle, including from FiveThirtyEight. We have critiqued the firm for its cavalier attitude toward polling convention. Rasmussen, for instance, generally conducts all of its interviews during a single, 4-hour window; speaks with the first person it reaches on the phone rather than using a random selection process; does not call cellphones; does not call back respondents whom it misses initially, and uses a computer script rather than live interviewers to conduct its surveys. These are cost-saving measures which contribute to very low response rates and may lead to biased samples.

Rasmussen also weights their surveys based on preordained assumptions about the party identification of voters in each state, a relatively unusual practice that many polling firms consider dubious since party identification (unlike characteristics like age and gender) is often quite fluid.

Rasmussen’s polls — after a poor debut in 2000 in which they picked the wrong winner in 7 key states in that year’s Presidential race — nevertheless had performed quite strongly in in 2004 and 2006. And they were about average in 2008. But their polls were poor this year.

The discrepancies between Rasmussen Reports polls and those issued by other companies were apparent from virtually the first day that Barack Obama took office. Rasmussen showed Barack Obama’s disapproval rating at 36 percent, for instance, just a week after his inauguration, at a point when no other pollster had that figure higher than 20 percent.

Rasmussen Reports has rarely provided substantive responses to criticisms about its methodology. At one point, Scott Rasmussen, president of the company, suggested that the differences it showed were due to its use of a likely voter model. A FiveThirtyEight analysis, however, revealed that its bias was at least as strong in polls conducted among all adults, before any model of voting likelihood had been applied.

Some of the criticisms have focused on the fact that Mr. Rasmussen is himself a conservative — the same direction in which his polls have generally leaned — although he identifies as an independent rather than Republican. In our view, that is somewhat beside the point. What matters, rather, is that is that the methodological shortcuts that the firm takes may now be causing it to pay a price in terms of the reliability of its polling.

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The table below presents results for the eight companies in FiveThirtyEight’s database that released at least 10 polls of gubernatorial and Senate contests into the public domain in the final three weeks of the campaign, and which were active in at least two states. The most accurate surveys were those issued by Quinnipiac University, which missed the final margin between the candidates by 3.3 points, and which showed little overall bias.

The next-best result was from SurveyUSA, which is among the highest-rated firms in FiveThirtyEight’s pollster rankings: it missed the margin between the candidates by 3.5 points, on average.

SurveyUSA also issued polls in a number of U.S. House races, missing the margin between the candidates by an average of 5.2 points. That is a comparatively good score: individual U.S. House races are generally quite difficult to poll, and the average poll issued by companies other than SurveyUSA had missed the margin between the candidates by an average of 7.3 points.

In some of the house races that it polled, SurveyUSA’s results had been more Republican-leaning than those of other pollsters. But it turned out that it had the right impression in most of those races — anticipating, for instance, that the Democratic incumbent Jim Oberstar could easily lose his race, as he eventually did.

YouGov, which conducts its surveys through Internet panels, also performed fairly well, missing the eventual margin by 3.5 points on average — although it confined its polling to a handful of swing races, in which polling is generally easier because of high levels of voter engagement.

Other polling firms that joined Rasmussen toward the bottom of the chart were Marist College, whose polls also had a notable Republican bias, and CNN/Opinion Research, whose polls missed by almost 5 points on average. Their scores are less statistically meaningful than that for Rasmussen Reports, however, because they had only released surveys in 14 and 17 races, respectively, as compared to Rasmussen’s 105 polls.
 
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charrison

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And the poll that mattered, the democrats did not do all that well as predicted by damn near everyone.
 

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lmao, that was a great thread. See my post on pg. 4, I specifically said they were off by about 5 points on average in the Republican direction.
 

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Now that the 2010 elections are over and the actual results are in, data analysis confirms what we already knew: Rasmussen Reports put out the most inaccurate polling data of any major polling firm.

No wonder Fox News contracted them for so many polls. Rasmussen was also popular with some of our forum members as well: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2081525

Not only were they off by an average of 5.8 points, Rasmussen also produced one of the largest polling errors ever recorded for a general election: a whopping 40 points in the Hawaii Senate race. Rasmussen also overestimated the standing of Republican candidates by an average of 4 points.

The most accurate polling data came from Quinnipiac University.

That's ok. As we've been lead to believe Hawaii is not part of the United States.
 

IndyColtsFan

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It has nothing to do with math. Honestly, who cares? These polls at the end of the day mean very little when the voters hit the polls.

This.

LOL @ jpeyton. When you're a cheerleader for the party that just got its butt handed to it on a silver platter, you have to grasp at straws to save some shred of dignity.

Here you go, this ought to be enough:

kleercut-kleenex.jpg
 

Thump553

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I came to the conclusion that Rasmuessen was basically a GOP shill earlier this year based on the ridiculous poll results they were posting in my state's races. Not much will change though, Fox News will ignore this news story and continue to make their polls highly visible.

Great news on Quinnipiac though. I've often wondered how they do so well, it's a rather modest college campus, equivalent to the branches of the state university system here. They must have at least one standout department, though.
 

IBMer

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This.

LOL @ jpeyton. When you're a cheerleader for the party that just got its butt handed to it on a silver platter, you have to grasp at straws to save some shred of dignity.

Here you go, this ought to be enough:

kleercut-kleenex.jpg

Honestly I couldn't careless about polls in relation to the election. I only commented in this thread because often these polls are used to support what some people thought, and its obvious that this source is biased now.
 

ichy

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It's no secret that Rasmussen is biased. That being said, I wish that polls in general were much less accurate. Election night would be more fun if there was more suspense about the outcome. Was anybody seriously surprised by Tuesday night's results?
 

nick1985

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its obvious that this source is biased now.

Obviously, since jpeyton and a NYTimes article said so.







http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...10/election_night/election_2010_how_did_we_do

"Heading into Election Day 2010, Rasmussen Reports polling showed a huge lead for Republicans on the Generic Congressional Ballot that accurately projected the historic gains of more than 60 seats in the House of Representatives. We didn’t poll individual House districts, but the two statewide House races we polled in the Dakotas came very close to the actual results.

As for the Senate, Rasmussen Reports projected 48 seats for the Democrats and 45 for the Republicans. We also listed seven Toss-Ups – California, Colorado, Illinois, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Washington and West Virginia - in the final Rasmussen Reports Senate Balance of Power rankings.

The two parties split those seven Toss-Up races, which is what you’d expect. Four were won by Democrats, two by Republicans, and one (Washington) remains too close to call.

Every pollster misses something along the way and our biggest miss came in Nevada. Our final survey in that Senate race showed Republican challenger Sharron Angle ahead 49% to 45% but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid won 50% to 45%. The two candidates had been three points apart or less in eight of the nine surveys we conducted in the state since July.

We also had three leaners in our final Senate rankings– Connecticut leaning toward Democrat Richard Blumenthal, Missouri toward Republican Roy Blunt and Wisconsin toward the GOP’s Ron Johnson. All fell the way our numbers projected"
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Honestly I couldn't careless about polls in relation to the election. I only commented in this thread because often these polls are used to support what some people thought, and its obvious that this source is biased now.

Granted, that is true to some extent. I will review the polls just to get an overall feel of the direction an election might be headed, but at the end of the day, no one should put too much faith in any poll except the one in early November in an election year.
 

nick1985

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Disprove it with the math, or are you going to make Maddow correct?

Why didnt thy give the 13 polls that were off by 10 or more? All they mentioned was Hawaii, and this sort of disengeneous

They got the Hawaii race correct several times, and had 1 poll where they were off. Did that article mention all the times Rasmussen polled the race dead on? No, instead they focused on the 1 poll that they were off.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ctions/hawaii/hawaii_senate_inouye_68_roco_20
 

IndyColtsFan

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