Rasmussen poll: about 71% of Americans see political correcness as a problem

[Zorkorist]

Hmm.. I suspect that reason alone won't be sufficient to persuade the naive and entitled. So let me dumb it down.

You want the freedom to be an asshole. Great. I want likewise the freedom to call you an asshole. What are you going to do about it?

Welcome to freedom.. asshole.

Every time I call you out on your bullshit, you come up with more bullshit.

Bullshit Artist.

-John

 

[Vic]

Every time I call you out on your bullshit, you come up with more bullshit.

Bullshit Artist.

-John

Such a loser.

 

[Vic]

The social dominance of white males is under attack along with the bigoted notions they hold that they use to bully their way to that power. When this is confronted by people who suffer the injustice created by dominance of an ignorant and immoral minority, they create terms like social warriors to hold up to their bullying ridicule. They sequel about how their opinions are being repressed by folk say who wear dresses or marry the same sex. They are just another in an endless line of bigoted pigs leaving the stage of history. The victimizer always feels like the victim.

Oh please, I'm a white male. This is about people who think freedom should come without consequence. The Trumpettes want to be able to voice their opinions without anyone disagreeing with them.

 

[compuwiz1]

You can't legislate what people can or cannot say. That is dictatorship type stuff. My Parents didn't need the PC movement to instill in us what is right and decent. Sometimes you must call something what it is, other times, you must use a bit of restraint. You only call someone a dirty beautiful being, if he is actually doing that in a parking lot behind the bar. You don't call a woman a c**t, unless she actually is one. An asshole is as an asshole does. You never call a black person a n@@ger, ever! It's all about respect. Respect begets respect. I treat all people with the same respect they treat me. I will speak the same language as people speak to me. I don't need laws to tell me how to do this.

 

[MongGrel]

You can't legislate what people can or cannot say. That is dictatorship type stuff. My Parents didn't need the PC movement to instill in us what is right and decent. Sometimes you must call something what it is, other times, you must use a bit of restraint. You only call someone a dirty beautiful being, if he is actually doing that in a parking lot behind the bar. You don't call a woman a c**t, unless she actually is one. An asshole is as an asshole does. You never call a black person a n@@ger, ever! It's all about respect. Respect begets respect. I treat all people with the same respect they treat me. I will speak the same language as people speak to me. I don't need laws to tell me how to do this.

 

[woolfe9998]

I certainly consider myself among the 71%. However, I think my views on the subject might differ anywhere from a little to quite lot from others who are also in the same 71%. The point being, that considering political correctness as "a problem" suggests a whole range of potential views on the subject. Some liberals think that conservatives have their own PC. and hence there may be some libs in that 71% who are thinking about conservative PC.

I think both sides have their PC, though I do think the left's PC is more common and pervasive. I view PC as taking what is fundamentally a good thing a little too far to where it can become difficult to have an open dialogue on numerous important topics. On balance, I'd rather have the downside of PC now then have the open bigotry we had 70 years ago.

PC is very much a generational thing. It's more popular among younger libs (<30) and less popular with older ones. My irritation with it probably stems from my age.

 

[bozack]

we currently live in an excessively litigious society ...what started out as small groups getting offended by "whatever" and turning those issues into a national causes has morphed into virtually everyone acting overly cautiously to avoid saying what they might be thinking/feeling in an effort to not say the "wrong" thing and companies reflexively taking moves to distance themselves from anything which may even have the slight hint of offending anyone.

I see this as a big problem and only getting worse, as it is I cant even count the number of those I know, work directly with, or do business with who don't feel comfortable saying much of anything around how they think/feel without fear it will unnerve someone and get blown out into a huge mess.

 

[IronWing]

If PC is a problem at all, it is a very, very small problem, maybe somewhere between the new, too-noisy potato chip bags and smelling other people's dryer sheets from the road on my great scroll of social ills.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, interesting poll. Seems the backlash is palatable now, something else Trump put into the lime-light that none of these career politicians have the balls to do.

Also interesting - 13 months ago they had the same poll and the numbers were 61%.

The questions on the poll :
1* Do Americans have true freedom of speech today, or do they have to be careful not to say something politically incorrect to avoid getting in trouble?

2* Is political correctness a problem in America today?

That question wording is a classic push poll. The first question primes you to answer a particular way on the second.

I would bet a lot of money you would see the numbers change substantially if only the second question were asked.

 

[brycejones]

Every time you call me out on my bullshit, I come up with more bullshit.

I am a bullshit Artist.

-John

FTFY You drunk fool.

 

[K1052]

That question wording is a classic push poll. The first question primes you to answer a particular way on the second.

I would bet a lot of money you would see the numbers change substantially if only the second question were asked.

My first thought when I clicked though the link to see the survey questions was "Are you fucking kidding me?".

Garbage poll is garbage.

 

[soulcougher73]

I agree as pc just sugar coats real issues

 

[K1052]

I agree as pc just sugar coats real issues

Like what?

 

[senseamp]

Of course those same 71% would throw a shit fit if someone, especially in government, said something non-PC about them. And they would then say it wasn't non-PC, it was rude. But they are OK with rudeness to others.

 

[EduCat]

PC is pretty much just the grown up version of 'If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' when it comes down to it a majority of the time.

Kind of sad to see my parents generation regress back into open bigotry. FB seems to be the new stormfront.

 

[Moonbeam]

Oh please, I'm a white male. This is about people who think freedom should come without consequence. The Trumpettes want to be able to voice their opinions without anyone disagreeing with them.

Don't see as how I said anything else and I am one too. You state what Trump supporters want. My interests is not just in describing how people are but why they are that way. What is the motivation for the insanity we see. You will have the endless manifestation of symptoms if you can't root up and deal with the cause. When you understand the fact that people in the throws of self hate are susceptible to the pied piper call that their problems are caused by the other and do not originate in the self, you can join the cunning manipulators if sociopathic or worse inclined, or you can decide not to go down the garden path. We are safe from the manipulation of mad men, only by the development of consciousness. You call that reason and liberal perspective education, but I find nowhere in those things, the direct focus on the problem of unconscious motivation or any way to address it effectively.

 

[Moonbeam]

I certainly consider myself among the 71%. However, I think my views on the subject might differ anywhere from a little to quite lot from others who are also in the same 71%. The point being, that considering political correctness as "a problem" suggests a whole range of potential views on the subject. Some liberals think that conservatives have their own PC. and hence there may be some libs in that 71% who are thinking about conservative PC.

I think both sides have their PC, though I do think the left's PC is more common and pervasive. I view PC as taking what is fundamentally a good thing a little too far to where it can become difficult to have an open dialogue on numerous important topics. On balance, I'd rather have the downside of PC now then have the open bigotry we had 70 years ago.

PC is very much a generational thing. It's more popular among younger libs (<30) and less popular with older ones. My irritation with it probably stems from my age.

The ego is a defense against self hate, an imaginary 'I' created to be other than what one was put down for as a child. It is an identification to an imagined perfect standard, a box or prison of behaviors we create to imagine ourselves to be of the highest standards and morals over and opposed to the behaviors we had as undisciplined and bad behaving children. We are put in this straightjacket so that when we grow up we will not face the criticism of others, that we will be safely normal and proper in all the best ways.

Thus we become better than others by differentiation. We think properly and are better. They are not. We become bigots, Mini Nazis for our personal Third Reich. From there it's not to far down the road where we want the Jews to be gassed.

In this way we create an enemy who in turn makes an enemy of us. We create what we fear.

For years and years we have swung farther and farther to the right, toward this fascist other hating mental state. The result is that the right is in danger of creating a monstrous left. And by the same process that the Right created these monsters they will see them everywhere. The Left will readily see the monster in the Right, but not so easily see how they slowly become that same monster.

The only way out of this depressing descent into chaos is to learn to love monsters by discovering and acknowledging the monster in the self.

There is only love and we have all been forgiven. We feel we are worthless, but it is a factual lie, a belief and nothing more. a belief we built to save us from great pain, but which creates endless more pain for the new born.

 

[MrPickins]

You can't legislate what people can or cannot say. That is dictatorship type stuff...

Where is this legislation you speak of?

 

[88keys]

There is a time and a place for political correctness.

Obviously nobody likes an asshole, but crap like pulling Dukes of Hazzard reruns because of the Confederate flag is just ridiculous.

 

[fskimospy]

Where is this legislation you speak of?

People continually confuse 'being criticized for speech' with 'being prevented from speaking'. What they really want isn't to be allowed to speak, they already have that, they want to be immune from criticism for it.

 

[Double Trouble]

People seem concerned that certain speech may get them in trouble, as you say, but where exactly is this trouble coming from?

It doesn't have to be government trouble for it to be a problem. I happen to think everyone is too damn sensitive and we have a culture where everyone is a victim.

 

[Double Trouble]

And if the other free people around you don't like your speech and decide not to freely do business with you, like if you get fired from your job for saying something hateful to a co-worker, that is not political correctness. It's because you're a douchebag.

Define "hateful". What is "hateful" to some is perfectly acceptable to others. We've raised a whole generation of fools who think anything that doesn't sit well with their delicate flower point of view is hateful. The pendulum seems to have swung from where it was accepted to say all sorts of derogatory and hateful things to where now a joke that's taken the wrong way by some overly sensitive person is a capital offense to some. That's a problem for society, one that is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

 

[LegendKiller]

PC is pretty much just the grown up version of 'If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' when it comes down to it a majority of the time.

Kind of sad to see my parents generation regress back into open bigotry. FB seems to be the new stormfront.

You have that the other way around. PC is the new "You called me a meanie name, I am telling on you so that you get fired, societally ostracized, and become destitute".

Apparently people forgot Sticks and Stones and have resorted to acting like emotionally stunted 2 year olds that kick and scream at anything that hurts their feelers.

 

[nickqt]

I'm against political correctness, because I want to be able to call people names and not be pointed at and called on it. In fact, I want to be able to give people I don't like shit, and then be told that I'm a hero for saying it.

#Trump '16

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm against political correctness, because I want to be able to call people names and not be pointed at and called on it. In fact, I want to be able to give people I don't like shit, and then be told that I'm a hero for saying it.

#Trump '16

Awe, poor baby gonna cwy. There now little baby, don't worry, momma will let you suck her tit until you're 30 anyway. After all, she wouldn't want to make you feel uncomfortable about yourself.