Rape, theft, vehicular homicide, forgery... you are going to prison

[rudder]

Well unless you are in the country illegally... then its okay you can go.

http://cis.org/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Aliens-Release-in-2013

I've known that ICE has been releasing detained illegals blaming in these releases on sequestration. The administration is releasing convicted criminals... murder, rape, theft, assault, DUI, etc.

Makes me want to change my name to Juan Valdez and go out drinking and carousing.... it will be my get out of jail free card.

 

[boomerang]

981 days to go.

 

[PokerGuy]

Wow, that is some kind of screwed up. Of course it's not politically correct to think this is a problem.

 

[Jaskalas]

981 days to go.

Until what?

If Democrats AND Republicans have their way, these illegals would be legal. Hell... maybe that'd mean they'd stay in prison?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This is definitely a problem, but keep in mind that it's likely most of these people had already served their sentences and were on parole and/or pending post-release deportation. It's not as though we ordinarily deport people in lieu of prosecuting and imprisoning them. The article does state that some of them were on bond, but if they had committed major crimes against persons it's likely they would not have had an affordable bail amount.

 

[rudder]

This is definitely a problem, but keep in mind that it's likely most of these people had already served their sentences and were on parole and/or pending post-release deportation. It's not as though we ordinarily deport people in lieu of prosecuting and imprisoning them. The article does state that some of them were on bond, but if they had committed major crimes against persons it's likely they would not have had an affordable bail amount.

These were people in custody awaiting deportation hearings. Now they are back in public. Not that it matters if they were deported. The obama administration has been cooking the books to make it look like obama has deported more people that any other administration. These people would end up back in the country anyway.

 

[dphantom]

981 days to go.

Thank goodness.

 

[fskimospy]

Well unless you are in the country illegally... then its okay you can go.

http://cis.org/ICE-Document-Details-36000-Criminal-Aliens-Release-in-2013

I've known that ICE has been releasing detained illegals blaming in these releases on sequestration. The administration is releasing convicted criminals... murder, rape, theft, assault, DUI, etc.

Makes me want to change my name to Juan Valdez and go out drinking and carousing.... it will be my get out of jail free card.

This is not what that report says. This is a similar framing to what people used to attack the attempt to repeal the 3 strikes law in California.

Now if you want to show me that people were released who were CURRENTLY detained for rape, theft, etc, etc, I'm interested to hear about that as it's a problem. If you're just telling me that people who had previously been convicted of a crime were released... uhmm... who cares?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

These were people in custody awaiting deportation hearings. Now they are back in public. Not that it matters if they were deported. The obama administration has been cooking the books to make it look like obama has deported more people that any other administration. These people would end up back in the country anyway.

I know, but they were in custody (at least in most instances) after serving their sentences. That is not to say I don't think non-citizens who commit serious crimes should be deported - I think they should - but releasing post-confinement prisoners doesn't generally represent a danger to public safety (and there is nothing intrinsically more dangerous about them by virtue of the fact that they are not American citizens).

 

[feralkid]

981 days to go.

Until Hillary's inauguration.

 

[Zaap]

Awaiting a deportation hearing? Whats the wait? Why not have any such hearing during the person's jail sentence. Or are sentences too short for crimes like homicide, rape and theft for time to have a hearing ?

This even aceepting the premise that someone in the country illegally committing crimes deserves a deportation hearing as if there wasn't only one acceptable outcome: deportation.

What other countries around the world can I sneak into, kill, rape and rob people, serve time on their dime then be released back into the country illegally all over again. Anyone got a list? I'm betting only one country is on it.

 

[werepossum]

Awaiting a deportation hearing? Whats the wait? Why not have any such hearing during the person's jail sentence. Or are sentences too short for crimes like homicide, rape and theft for time to have a hearing ?

This even aceepting the premise that someone in the country illegally committing crimes deserves a deportation hearing as if there wasn't only one acceptable outcome: deportation.

What other countries around the world can I sneak into, kill, rape and rob people, serve time on their dime then be released back into the country illegally all over again. Anyone got a list? I'm betting only one country is on it.

Agreed.

Shoots down the only good thing about Obama's immigration policy, his concentration on criminals.

 

[boomerang]

What other countries around the world can I sneak into, kill, rape and rob people, serve time on their dime then be released back into the country illegally all over again.

Saudi Arabia or maybe Brunei - I think.

 

[Zaap]

Saudi Arabia or maybe Brunei - I think.

..while still retaining all my limbs.

 

[alkemyst]

It's called thinning the herd. You put these people back on the street and they have nothing to lose and at the end of the day they are on their way back to their countries.

It's really messed up.

 

[thraashman]

So an organization with a clear political bias and past links to white supremacists posts a "study" with no references that has been heavily disputed by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The right accepts every word of this so easily yet rejects things like climate change, fascinating.

 

[werepossum]

So an organization with a clear political bias and past links to white supremacists posts a "study" with no references that has been heavily disputed by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The right accepts every word of this so easily yet rejects things like climate change, fascinating.

You forgot to play the race ca-

Oh. Never mind.

 

[boomerang]

You forgot to play the race ca-

Oh. Never mind.

I think progz have a script. Plug in a few key words and another iteration of the same shit is disgorged. Of course, raised to all be winners, it's a masterpiece.

 

[thraashman]

You forgot to play the race ca-

Oh. Never mind.

Hey, it's not my fault to be a conservative nowadays you have to have every quality possible for a horrible person.

 

[werepossum]

I think progz have a script. Plug in a few key words and another iteration of the same shit is disgorged. Of course, raised to all be winners, it's a masterpiece.

Yup.

Hey, it's not my fault to be a conservative nowadays you have to have every quality possible for a horrible person.

Exhibit A.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

You forgot to play the race ca-

Oh. Never mind.

In fairness, this website is a totally unknown quantity (at least to me), and is posting this information as fact without any citation to a more trustworthy source. That does make it hard to know whether what they're saying is true. It may very well be, but I have no idea one way or the other.

 

[Zaap]

In fairness, this website is a totally unknown quantity (at least to me), and is posting this information as fact without any citation to a more trustworthy source. That does make it hard to know whether what they're saying is true. It may very well be, but I have no idea one way or the other.

Fair enough.
I find it reported other places, like:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-36k-criminals-freed-while-awaiting-deportation/

But they all just cite the same report.

Basically most "news" today is just regurgitating what someone else reported elsewhere, or quoting some spokeshole's canned spin, not actual reporters going out and digging up facts on their own.

Anyway, I'd like to see some real reporter go out and independently dig up facts and confirm or disprove this. The usual blithering idiots yelling racism don't mean jack shit- that's all they ever do against any and everything they disagree with.

 

[werepossum]

In fairness, this website is a totally unknown quantity (at least to me), and is posting this information as fact without any citation to a more trustworthy source. That does make it hard to know whether what they're saying is true. It may very well be, but I have no idea one way or the other.

Um, no. The Center for Immigration Studies is very well known and is decades old. It and FAIR are two of the best known low immigration/anti-illegal immigration/low population growth groups lobbying today and have been since at least Reagan's days.

Thraashman's "white supremacist" slur goes back to a ridiculous Clinton-era attack by La Raza and the Southern Poverty Law Center against John Tanton, co-founder of FAIR (but not actually CIS), and stems from his publishing a French book (Camp of Angels?) which the SPLC believes is better off burned. Amusingly, Tanton's also something of a lefty due to his views on population control and conservation, and has held leadership in many left wing organizations such as Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club. Oddly enough, none of those organizations seem to pick up the old "white supremacist" slime in the SPLC's view.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Um, no. The Center for Immigration Studies is very well known and is decades old. It and FAIR are two of the best known low immigration/anti-illegal immigration/low population growth groups lobbying today and have been since at least Reagan's days.

Thraashman's "white supremacist" slur goes back to a ridiculous Clinton-era attack by La Raza and the Southern Poverty Law Center against John Tanton, co-founder of FAIR (but not actually CIS), and stems from his publishing a French book (Camp of Angels?) which the SPLC believes is better off burned. Amusingly, Tanton's also something of a lefty due to his views on population control and conservation, and has held leadership in many left wing organizations such as Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club. Oddly enough, none of those organizations seem to pick up the old "white supremacist" slime in the SPLC's view.

Huh. I guess I don't really track think tanks like this - I have never heard of CIS.

 

[Zaap]

Thraashman's "white supremacist" slur goes back to a ridiculous Clinton-era attack by La Raza and the Southern Poverty Law Center against John Tanton, co-founder of FAIR (but not actually CIS), and stems from his publishing a French book (Camp of Angels?) which the SPLC believes is better off burned. Amusingly, Tanton's also something of a lefty due to his views on population control and conservation, and has held leadership in many left wing organizations such as Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club. Oddly enough, none of those organizations seem to pick up the old "white supremacist" slime in the SPLC's view.

Heh. You can always count on the left for blatent hypocrisy, even if they are ignorant of it.

So basically being citied by a racist group like La Raza (the name litterally means "the race" -you might as well have the white power movement accuse you of racism, it's just a racist front group lefty doofuses are fine with.

And funny how Planned Parenthood is a darling of the left. It was founded by people whose stated goals were wiping out "inferior" races and those they deemed undesirables. Margaret Sanger was a real piece of work... she even spoke at klan rallies.