Ranting about antiwar protests

[BlueEyedBeezlebub]

I dont know how many of you have been reading about the protests that have been going on against the war but I am going to be organizing counter protests in my area that are pro war. Its time those of us who despise draft dodgers from the vietnam era and the weak ones who are afraid to do what we have to do now hear our voice. Sad thing is these days the popular opinion is against me (which is ok with me), honor, chivalry, and duty to ones nation is dead in our country.

Its also said that the media is ignoring these protests, and for good reason.. alot of the media is jewish owned, this war will get all support from liberal jews, conservative jews, all other conservatives.. the only ones left out will be the liberal whites who want to protest everything for mostly political hatred of their enemies initiatives and ideas or fear of sending their children off to battle.
Most of their children are scared, but I'm 21 years old and think the war and draft is a good thing. In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

I think that those who protest just do so to relive or regain some spirit of the 60s.. it was justified in those times but now some would protest even if we were being attacked on our own soil. And if this nation is ever attacked on our own soil, as powerful as we are now.. and our enemys got that far, it would be all over.

So counter protest the protesters if you have the motivation!

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: BlueEyedBeezlebub

In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

You are a quick one arn't you?

 

[Anubis]

In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

bad idea.

but luckily my eyes, feet, back will keep me out of dooing any millitary service. so i really dont care.

and im 21 so

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: BlueEyedBeezlebub

In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

I wouldn't go that far but I believe in some sort of mandatory service.. Whether it be in the military, peace core, or some other service.

 

[Queasy]

Ahhh...let the hippies get naked and free their minds.

What is more disturbing to me is the so-called "Teach-Ins" that were held in the Bay area of California that brought in lecturer after lecturer for school age children from 1st to 12th grade. They called it an open discussion about the possibilities of war in Iraq and something to educate children and spark debate. Well, there wasn't much debate. Every single lecturer they lined up was AGAINST going to war in Iraq and against America. The bay area school council said they couldn't find a single speaker to come out for America and for a war in Iraq. I call BS on that one. Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.

 

[woodie1]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Ahhh...let the hippies get naked and free their minds.

What is more disturbing to me is the so-called "Teach-Ins" that were held in the Bay area of California that brought in lecturer after lecturer for school age children from 1st to 12th grade. They called it an open discussion about the possibilities of war in Iraq and something to educate children and spark debate. Well, there wasn't much debate. Every single lecturer they lined up was AGAINST going to war in Iraq and against America. The bay area school council said they couldn't find a single speaker to come out for America and for a war in Iraq. I call BS on that one. Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.

No surprise there.

 

[Jzero]

Not everyone who protests war is a draft dodger. It is possible that many of those who protest do so out of love for their country, not because they fear war, but because they despise it. In fact it is those who speak out, be it for or against, are the ones who take advantage of the freedom that has been so bitterly won for us.

But the ones who remain silent and sit on the fence choose to toss that freedom aside.

I hope your protests are well-attended, BlueEyedBeezlebub!

 

[Red Dawn]

I have no problem with those who protest the upcoming Military adventure it seems we are headed for with Iraq. I want to hear all sides on this issue as I'm a bit wary about any hostilities that could impact our Nation and the world as a whole for the next ten years or so. I've heard compelling arguments for attacking Iraq and I've heard compelling arguments for holding off for a bit. Right now as it stands the arguments for holding off for a bit seem to make more sense to me but I can be swayed if I hear a convincing argument that immediate action is needed because waiting for another 8 or so months will put us as a nation in harms way.

What I have heard is a bunch of BS from either side of this issue, you know, people calling each other War Mongers or Draft Dodgers. Of course all they've convinced me of is the fact that they are Morons.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I have no problem with those who protest the upcoming Military adventure it seems we are headed for with Iraq. I want to hear all sides on this issue as I'm a bit wary about any hostilities that could impact our Nation and the world as a whole for the next ten years or so. I've heard compelling arguments for attacking Iraq and I've heard compelling arguments for holding off for a bit. Right now as it stands the arguments for holding off for a bit seem to make more sense to me but I can be swayed if I hear a convincing argument that immediate action is needed because waiting for another 8 or so months will put us as a nation in harms way.

What I have heard is a bunch of BS from either side of this issue, you know, people calling each other War Mongers or Draft Dodgers. Of course all they've convinced me of is the fact that they are Morons.

Nicely put. I just sway the way of not holding off. I feel that we have held off for 10 years now. It needs to be finished and putting it off for a longer time seems to be a bad idea. Of course that is my opinion.

If someone put up a good argument of why we should wait I would surely listen and if the argument was sound I could change my mind. I just haven't heard anything. The only thing that makes me think twice is the fact that since N Korea has more of a smoking gun, we need to take care of them first.

 

[wyvrn]

I have a reason for you. Iraq's top nuclear scientist the past 20 years was interviewed on an History channel documentary. He thinks Iraq is about a year away from having a nuclear bomb. With the reactor the French built for Iraq and all the money they poured into research, he says they were very close to finishing the bomb. He lives in D.C. now with his family after he escaped with help of the CIA and is an activist for war with Iraq. He says we must go now because soon it may be too late.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I have no problem with those who protest the upcoming Military adventure it seems we are headed for with Iraq. I want to hear all sides on this issue as I'm a bit wary about any hostilities that could impact our Nation and the world as a whole for the next ten years or so. I've heard compelling arguments for attacking Iraq and I've heard compelling arguments for holding off for a bit. Right now as it stands the arguments for holding off for a bit seem to make more sense to me but I can be swayed if I hear a convincing argument that immediate action is needed because waiting for another 8 or so months will put us as a nation in harms way.

What I have heard is a bunch of BS from either side of this issue, you know, people calling each other War Mongers or Draft Dodgers. Of course all they've convinced me of is the fact that they are Morons.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Ahhh...let the hippies get naked and free their minds.

What is more disturbing to me is the so-called "Teach-Ins" that were held in the Bay area of California that brought in lecturer after lecturer for school age children from 1st to 12th grade. They called it an open discussion about the possibilities of war in Iraq and something to educate children and spark debate. Well, there wasn't much debate. Every single lecturer they lined up was AGAINST going to war in Iraq and against America. The bay area school council said they couldn't find a single speaker to come out for America and for a war in Iraq. I call BS on that one. Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.

Interesting... I'm in the Bay Area and haven't heard this. Can you please link to a news story?

If it is true, its a funny phenomenon... the majority of these sensational stories about the liberal Bay Area don't even make it to our local news. But they do make headlines in the Southern states where they apparently care

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: BlueEyedBeezlebub
I dont know how many of you have been reading about the protests that have been going on against the war but I am going to be organizing counter protests in my area that are pro war. Its time those of us who despise draft dodgers from the vietnam era and the weak ones who are afraid to do what we have to do now hear our voice. Sad thing is these days the popular opinion is against me (which is ok with me), honor, chivalry, and duty to ones nation is dead in our country.

Its also said that the media is ignoring these protests, and for good reason.. alot of the media is jewish owned, this war will get all support from liberal jews, conservative jews, all other conservatives.. the only ones left out will be the liberal whites who want to protest everything for mostly political hatred of their enemies initiatives and ideas or fear of sending their children off to battle.
Most of their children are scared, but I'm 21 years old and think the war and draft is a good thing. In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

I think that those who protest just do so to relive or regain some spirit of the 60s.. it was justified in those times but now some would protest even if we were being attacked on our own soil. And if this nation is ever attacked on our own soil, as powerful as we are now.. and our enemys got that far, it would be all over.

So counter protest the protesters if you have the motivation!

Hmmm... where do I start with this one?

 

[UltraQuiet]

What kind of fvcktard starts a rally in favor of war???? Jesus tap dancin' Christ

 

[acidvoodoo]

nice one. I'd full support your protest.

OR

if no one wants to join in, just go up to the anti war people and tell them to go fork themselfes

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Ahhh...let the hippies get naked and free their minds.

What is more disturbing to me is the so-called "Teach-Ins" that were held in the Bay area of California that brought in lecturer after lecturer for school age children from 1st to 12th grade. They called it an open discussion about the possibilities of war in Iraq and something to educate children and spark debate. Well, there wasn't much debate. Every single lecturer they lined up was AGAINST going to war in Iraq and against America. The bay area school council said they couldn't find a single speaker to come out for America and for a war in Iraq. I call BS on that one. Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.

Well of course they are going to get people against the war to teach the children. They can't let pig-headed bigots and intellectual inferiors teach children, now can they?

 

[UltraQuiet]

They can't let pig-headed bigots and intellectual inferiors teach children, now can they?

Is that what they told you when they rejected your job application?

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

They can't let pig-headed bigots and intellectual inferiors teach children, now can they?

Is that what they told you when they rejected your job application?

No, I read it off yours.

 

[spaceman]

this is a great idea, unfortunately it is going to be deadly cold tonight.
i know they are staging protests in Albany, they better bundle up(supposed to hit -10)

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: BlueEyedBeezlebub
I dont know how many of you have been reading about the protests that have been going on against the war but I am going to be organizing counter protests in my area that are pro war. Its time those of us who despise draft dodgers from the vietnam era and the weak ones who are afraid to do what we have to do now hear our voice. Sad thing is these days the popular opinion is against me (which is ok with me), honor, chivalry, and duty to ones nation is dead in our country.

Its also said that the media is ignoring these protests, and for good reason.. alot of the media is jewish owned, this war will get all support from liberal jews, conservative jews, all other conservatives.. the only ones left out will be the liberal whites who want to protest everything for mostly political hatred of their enemies initiatives and ideas or fear of sending their children off to battle.
Most of their children are scared, but I'm 21 years old and think the war and draft is a good thing. In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!! Mostly for a wake up call so we respect our freedom and how important it is to maintain.

I think that those who protest just do so to relive or regain some spirit of the 60s.. it was justified in those times but now some would protest even if we were being attacked on our own soil. And if this nation is ever attacked on our own soil, as powerful as we are now.. and our enemys got that far, it would be all over.

So counter protest the protesters if you have the motivation!

I wasn't alive in the 60's, so I don't think that's the reason. Maybe I think life is the one irreplacable thing in this world and the taking of life shouldn't be attempted if there's any way at all to avoid it. Nah, that's too logical, I must want to be a hippie.

Am I afraid to die? Absolutely. Those who seek death should be free to kill themselves without taking anyone else down with them.
Would I be worried about my children dying if I had them and the were sent over? Absolutely. Would I be willing to see them go if it was necessary? Yes. Good to know that your kids will be expendable though.

Honor, chivalry, duty to one's nation = war ? What is honorable or chivalrous or dutiful about seeing people on your side or the other one die?

Military service for everyone is a fine idea. The one reason I wouldn't want to be in the military is some idiot who's in charge could very well decide that all problems are best solved by having me shoot at someone who was told by another idiot that they have to shoot at me. If he dies first, my leader can spike a football and declare victory and moral superiority.

Saying "don't attack until you can prove that there is a need" = willing to let country invade America? Why didn't I see the correlation?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
What kind of fvcktard starts a rally in favor of war???? Jesus tap dancin' Christ

Those who demonstrate the bravado of a kid brother starting crap knowing full well that their Big Brother is the one who?s going to have to do the fighting.

Frankly I believe the best way to deal with those who demonstrate against the war with the same illogical zeal as these Arnchair Generals who demonstrate for it would be to totally ignore them

 

[BlueEyedBeezlebub]

Originally posted by: yowolabi
Honor, chivalry, duty to one's nation = war ? What is honorable or chivalrous or dutiful about seeing people on your side or the other one die?

I dont think its about murder or killing people, but long before this type of philosophy took over and people started trying to think out problems with enemys who are basically living in the middle ages ideologically and mentally, the only way to deal with them is fight or throw money at them and take away their will to fight. To them its (middle) East versus West, to us its life or death.. for both sides and of course we dont WANT war.. no one does.
Do you seriously think that Saddam cares about other peoples lives and the environment as much as you do? Or the rest of us for that matter? No.. he'd blow up the entire world and be satisfied because he's jealous of our money, influence and success.

These people want us all dead.. I dont think theres much that can be done unless we're going to make the middle east and Iraq lose their will to fight by smothering their ambitions (such as the two buildings you might remember falling 9/11) with money.. example of this would be post WW2 compared to post WW1 where we let the enemy sit in poverty and feud over how the jews and americans beat them.
So when we do beat Iraq and whoever else (france hopefully ) then maybe we could help them rebuild.. thats caring about life.. not letting a dictator control those people like slaves and attempt to attack all western civilization like its 1289AD.

And I personally find something great about the ideals of honor, chivalry and duty to ones nation.. their forgotten ideals, even simpler related things such as opening a door for a women (just an example) is forgotten these days and wheres the respect or morality in that? Thats just the way I was raised, most people nowadays would say thats a personal choice but I dont think it should be.
I'm not living in the past.. these things are the pillars of a successful heathly civilization.. things we need, and Iraqs people could do alot better without that despot who wants to burn our cities. He'd probably murder the antiwar people in america first because even saddam would find it ridiculous if he was on our side to sit back and let him launch nukes at us.

end rant.. I guess I'm just a young guy thats old fashioned in a new world.. with an nforce2 and athlon xp no less!

 

[ultimatebob]

I think that everyone from the ages of 18 to 24 should be forced to serve in the military. Why? Because I'm 25! HA HA! Enjoy boot camp, suckers!

Seriously though, I'd be willing to support a war in Iraq once the UN weapons inspectors PROVE our military's claims of Iraq having "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Until I see some solid evidence, I'm going to be wary of what Bush's true agenda for war with Iraq.

 

[coolVariable]

Some people ar just plain stupid (the ones that want to go to war that is).

Iraq MIGHT have WMDs - Lets go to war with them!
Nort Korea poudly claims to have WMDs - Lets go to war with Iraq!!!

Maybe Bush was meant to die choking on his pretzel. (too bad he couldn't take the warmongers with him.) And BTW I'm a die hard republican conservative.

 

[Tab]

Sad thing is these days the popular opinion is against me (which is ok with me), honor, chivalry, and duty to ones nation is dead in our country.

You sure popular opinion is against you? I am with you all the way, expect you wont see me holding a picket sign...

Its also said that the media is ignoring these protests, and for good reason.. alot of the media is jewish owned, this war will get all support from liberal jews, conservative jews, all other conservatives..

What makes you think the media is always made up of these types?

I'm 21 years old and think the war and draft is a good thing. In fact I think from age 18-20 in this country mandatory military service should be required!

I say make it 21 to 26, why not? Freedom isnt free. I don't like draft dogers, not everyone who goes in the service will see action. They should be concious objecter. The system where people are picked to be drafted does need to be fixed. As african americans and hispanics seem to be picked quite often.

What is more disturbing to me is the so-called "Teach-Ins" that were held in the Bay area of California that brought in lecturer after lecturer for school age children from 1st to 12th grade. They called it an open discussion about the possibilities of war in Iraq and something to educate children and spark debate. Well, there wasn't much debate. Every single lecturer they lined up was AGAINST going to war in Iraq and against America. The bay area school council said they couldn't find a single speaker to come out for America and for a war in Iraq. I call BS on that one. Sounds more like forced indoctrination to me.

Heh, really smart school...I second the BS call.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BlueEyedBeezlebub

Originally posted by: yowolabi
Honor, chivalry, duty to one's nation = war ? What is honorable or chivalrous or dutiful about seeing people on your side or the other one die?

I dont think its about murder or killing people, but long before this type of philosophy took over and people started trying to think out problems with enemys who are basically living in the middle ages ideologically and mentally, the only way to deal with them is fight or throw money at them and take away their will to fight. To them its (middle) East versus West, to us its life or death.. for both sides and of course we dont WANT war.. no one does.
Do you seriously think that Saddam cares about other peoples lives and the environment as much as you do? Or the rest of us for that matter? No.. he'd blow up the entire world and be satisfied because he's jealous of our money, influence and success.

These people want us all dead.. I dont think theres much that can be done unless we're going to make the middle east and Iraq lose their will to fight by smothering their ambitions (such as the two buildings you might remember falling 9/11) with money.. example of this would be post WW2 compared to post WW1 where we let the enemy sit in poverty and feud over how the jews and americans beat them.
So when we do beat Iraq and whoever else (france hopefully ) then maybe we could help them rebuild.. thats caring about life.. not letting a dictator control those people like slaves and attempt to attack all western civilization like its 1289AD.

And I personally find something great about the ideals of honor, chivalry and duty to ones nation.. their forgotten ideals, even simpler related things such as opening a door for a women (just an example) is forgotten these days and wheres the respect or morality in that? Thats just the way I was raised, most people nowadays would say thats a personal choice but I dont think it should be.
I'm not living in the past.. these things are the pillars of a successful heathly civilization.. things we need, and Iraqs people could do alot better without that despot who wants to burn our cities. He'd probably murder the antiwar people in america first because even saddam would find it ridiculous if he was on our side to sit back and let him launch nukes at us.

end rant.. I guess I'm just a young guy thats old fashioned in a new world.. with an nforce2 and athlon xp no less!

Nice speech. To bad you have honor mistaken with blind obedience. I've yet to gaze upon an honorable flock of sheep.