Rant - User's data gets pwn3d

Cable God

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rant on/ I gave you a brand new workstation 7 months or so ago, 3ghz, 1gb ddr, 200gb sata, 20.1" LCD and gave you a few weeks to copy you data off your old p3 733. It's been 7 months now and I take your old pc and scrap it and load 2000 pro for one of my developers to test a 2000 pro dialup problem one of our applications is having. You get pissy because your data is gone, but you caveman looking ID10T, you STILL couldn't get your data off after 7 months of goofing off on AOL? Too bad, so sad, the company owns the data, and I am the company's IT department. Whine all you want. /rant off
 

Cable God

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No, he's not. As far as the IT depertment here, it is me, and me alone. What I say as far as that department is concerned, goes.
 

loup garou

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I can't claim to know your job responsibilites, but whenever I set up a new user's workstation, it's expected to return to the state the previous machine was. Files, programs, profile, etc. The Files & Settings transfer wizard isn't hard to use...run it and walk away. It'll save headaches like these...
 

TallBill

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Lol, first thing I do when I get home is back up all my data, and I dont even have new data to backup.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: Cable God
rant on/ I gave you a brand new workstation 7 months or so ago, 3ghz, 1gb ddr, 200gb sata, 20.1" LCD and gave you a few weeks to copy you data off your old p3 733. It's been 7 months now and I take your old pc and scrap it and load 2000 pro for one of my developers to test a 2000 pro dialup problem one of our applications is having. You get pissy because your data is gone, but you caveman looking ID10T, you STILL couldn't get your data off after 7 months of goofing off on AOL? Too bad, so sad, the company owns the data, and I am the company's IT department. Whine all you want. /rant off

Did you ask if he had done it before you took it away? If not, you're just a mean mean guy! Bad IT geek, BAD IT geek! j/k :p
 

woowoo

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Originally posted by: Cable God
No, he's not. As far as the IT depertment here, it is me, and me alone. What I say as far as that department is concerned, goes.

Remember those words while your looking for a new job.
 

Cable God

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Haha, that won't happen. When a user gets a new workstation here, it is their responsibility to backup and move their own data. He had 7 months. He was lazy, and now he is paying for it. I don't work here for the money, matter of fact, I don't HAVE to work if I don't want to.
 

mcvickj

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Originally posted by: werk
I can't claim to know your job responsibilites, but whenever I set up a new user's workstation, it's expected to return to the state the previous machine was. Files, programs, profile, etc. The Files & Settings transfer wizard isn't hard to use...run it and walk away. It'll save headaches like these...

Same for my department. Not only is it required but it saves me headaches in the long run with the user bugging me every 5 minutes becasue they can't find some file or something isn't installed, ect.

To the OP - I think your attitude is pretty crappy. If you don't work for the money then why are you working? Is it really that hard to send an e-mail to the user a day before letting him know you will be pulling the machine? Sure it shouldn't take 7 months to move the data over. Especially if its importain and used daily but a heads up is the least you could have done. /shrug.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Cable God
Haha, that won't happen. When a user gets a new workstation here, it is their responsibility to backup and move their own data. He had 7 months. He was lazy, and now he is paying for it. I don't work here for the money, matter of fact, I don't HAVE to work if I don't want to.

Then thats a good thing.

Because with your attitude you are bound to get fired. I agree 7 months is more then enough time to back up the data. BUT again not everyone knows how to do such stuff.

Why would you leave it to them anyway? they may miss something critical or such. Not to mention you should have been doing Backups an a regualar time frame anyway. No matter how big a IT department it is.

but i guess if they force the user to do it the IT department must suck.
 

dullard

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I'd say the IT department there sucks bigtime. 7 months and the IT person still hasn't done the job of backing up the business's computers. It takes what, 30 minutes max, to go through a typical computer to find all of the user files, compress them, and to copy it onto another hard drive or other backup source. If the IT person doesn't do that, he/she is a pretty worthless IT person. Compare that to the amount of money that IT person just cost the company in lost data and lost time.
 

0roo0roo

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u sound like a snot nosed it geek. it was ur job to fiddle with the pc. a little caution with data on your part would have gone a long way.
 

ElFenix

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this is why domain servers were invented

of course, due to how stupidly windows interacts with its programs, it doesn't copy over personal setting for, say, word.
 

rh71

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farking end users... but don't forget, we'd be nowhere without them.
 

Phoenix86

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Users shouldn't have to back things up themselves, and if they do, the admin should hold their hands. They are not IT people, they are users. Their job isn't to know how to backup and restore data.

Even if you don't actually do it for them or hold their hand you should make damned sure you don't lose user data. The entire point of a computer/network is to generate user data, and you just deleted some.

I agree with dullard...
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
this is why domain servers were invented

of course, due to how stupidly windows interacts with its programs, it doesn't copy over personal setting for, say, word.
1)I'm assuming you're talking about centralized file serving and backups, which I'm amazed any competent IT department with more than 5 users doesn't have. Either that or roaming profiles, which I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. That's the only roles I can see a domain controller having in this scenario.

2)F&STW will.
 

brtspears2

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Whenever I send out a new system to replace one, I Just copy everything, even trash to their new computer. They got plenty of disk space to hold their junk.
 

KC5AV

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I think it's great that it is the users responsibility to move their own data. Of course, most of my users aren't smart enough to do it. We recently migrated everything to a server so we wouldn't have to listen to complaints about them deleting things and then needing them back.

I just moved a couple of ladies from a remote office to our business office last week. I hadn't finished migrating their data, and one of them decided to 'help out'. I came back to finish my work, and all of her data got deleted because I didn't realize she had already tried to move it. I told her she shouldn't have been trying to do my job.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: dullard
I'd say the IT department there sucks bigtime. 7 months and the IT person still hasn't done the job of backing up the business's computers. It takes what, 30 minutes max, to go through a typical computer to find all of the user files, compress them, and to copy it onto another hard drive or other backup source. If the IT person doesn't do that, he/she is a pretty worthless IT person. Compare that to the amount of money that IT person just cost the company in lost data and lost time.

Bingo! I'm sorry Cable God, but I think you're in the wrong here. It doesn't matter if he had 7 years to back it up. You should've checked and double checked the user backed up his stuff before wiping the drive. You cost the company both time and money because you wanted to show another employee who is boss. I guess you're e-penis must've grown like 10 inches after doing this.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: dullard
I'd say the IT department there sucks bigtime. 7 months and the IT person still hasn't done the job of backing up the business's computers. It takes what, 30 minutes max, to go through a typical computer to find all of the user files, compress them, and to copy it onto another hard drive or other backup source. If the IT person doesn't do that, he/she is a pretty worthless IT person. Compare that to the amount of money that IT person just cost the company in lost data and lost time.

I disagree. The IT department sets the IT rules at a company. If you're told it's up to you to backup your data, well then, it's up to you. If you don't know how to do it, asking for help would probably be a fantastic idea. The user is at fault, not the IT department.