*rant* This is why I hate people. (What do you think I should do about this?)

NikPreviousAcct

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Apart from work, I have my own customer base. Like many here, I'm "the computer guy" for friends, family, and businesses locally. One of my larger clients is a husband/wife team that have their own respective small businesses in one building. Her business is an adoption agency that deals with Russian kids and the other is an electrical contractor. Earlier this summer when they both moved in to this building, I had the husband's company, an electrical contractor, drop cat5 from the atic into the walls and install RJ45 outlets in each room. From there, I installed a router, got their DSL installed and working, and setup all their PCs (eight units between both companies). Not really all that hard, but they give me a call when something doesn't work the way they want it to and I spend a few minutes on the phone to get it working the way they want it to or drive out there to fix a computer that is no longer receiving email, etc.

Well, their computers stopped passing traffic between computers directly, only allowing an internet connection to for each PC (no more file/printer sharing) so I went out last night. I spent 3.5 hours (slow computers, yes) changing computer names and workgroups, uninstalling and reinstalling tcp/ip and file/printer sharing, making sure they didn't eff things up AGAIN. While I was working, the computers stopped browsing. All of them. I could ping by IP and url, but couldn't browse by IP or url on any of them, so I grabbed my laptop out of my bag and connected it directly to the DSL modem, instantly getting a connection. I power cycled the router and rebooted the lappy several times each with no problems. I tried power cycling the router a few times, but no change. I grabbed a small 4-port hub, plugged a few cables in, and the computers connected were able to browse the workgroup just fine.

Great, bad router. I unplugged the power to the router, called the wife (technically working for her directly) and told her that the router was bad and that I would look into prices for a better router tomorrow. I found a linksys router (d-link seriously sucks in my eyes now) that I'm getting through work for cheap.

What happens? They call my home phone and leave messages like "OMG YOU BROKE IT." Well, I'm at work. I don't constantly check the messages at home when I'm here, and I shouldn't. Then they somehow find my work phone number and call me in a panic. "OMG WE CAN'T GET ON TEH INTARWEB!!" Well duh, sh|theads, I told you that last night. I WARNED you that you'll have to go back to the closet where the dsl modem and router are and plug a single computer directly into the dsl modem if you want an internet connection, and you'll have to switch cables manually to share the internet connection. What happens? "OMG HOW DO WE GET ONLINE!?" Duh, I TOLD the owner this last night over the phone after I'd finished for the night. Come to find out it's the owner herself who's in a panic going "NIK DID IT! HE DID SOMETHING TO GET US OFF THE INTERNET. GET HIM ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW." Yeah, lady, I'm personally responsible for the hardware failure? I don't think so. I'm responsible for busting my ass to get things fixed when they DO fail, which is what I'm doing, but christ...

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I TOLD them that I would be looking into RMA'ing the D-Link if not returning it and, come to think of it, I think I'll offer to buy it from them either way to help them keep costs down. I TOLD them that I'd also look into getting a better router at company cost, making zero profit, which I have done. I have to run over to the distributor to pick it up and run back out there to install it which I said I *might* be able to do tonight.

WTF. Why do I bother telling someone something important ahead of time if they're just going to ignore it or forget it and be unreasonable about it?

I'm going to get them up and running again, regardless. However, would it be wrong of me to tell them that from now on they'll need to find someone else to work on their technology solutions? Or should I just put up with it and stick with them for future issues? I really don't want to put up with this kind of bullsh|t.
 
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are they paying you? if so, suck it up, or find a different job that doesnt involve people
if this is pro bono stuff, dont torture yourself, just dont do stuff for impatient/inconsiderate/unappreciative people
 

Juice Box

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Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Originally posted by: digitalsnare
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
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well said

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flamingelephant

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh charge them next time?

if you are going to do tech support then you should work out fees or an hourly rate and tell them that. Just cause you set up the system doesn't mean you have to maintain it for free. They do run a business so they might understand. But, since you've done it free in the past it might be difficult to get them to accept paying for it now, but thats what you have to do
 

Amused

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This is why you leave written memos taped to everyone's monitor explaining that the netwok is going down due to a hardware failure and will be back up as soon as you can get a new router. For such a small business that wouldn't have been a problem.

Live and learn.
 

Modeps

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Nik,
Sometimes I think being a tech support person just isnt worth the hassle. The profit/hassle ratio is skewed in the wrong direction.

Yours in Christ,
~Modeps.
 

bsobel

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So you guys are going to just ignore the whole post including my question about what to do, and thread crap? Seriously, I want your opinions on how I should handle this.

From your side, it seems to me you've already handled it as best you could (offering to get a router at cost, etc) and better than I would have ;)

I'm going to get them up and running again, regardless. However, would it be wrong of me to tell them that from now on they'll need to find someone else to work on their technology solutions? Or should I just put up with it and stick with them for future issues? I really don't want to put up with this kind of bullsh|t.

How much is the client worth to you? They are paying you for this (or should be). If you don't think they are worth it, move on and find clients who respect you like you obviously repsect them.

Bill
 

You're working in IT, this is to be expected. You're nothing more than a monkey that makes things work, so either jump through the hoopes for your peanuts or give it to someone else.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
are they paying you? if so, suck it up, or find a different job that doesnt involve people
if this is pro bono stuff, dont torture yourself, just dont do stuff for impatient/inconsiderate/unappreciative people

Yes, they're paying me.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Nik

WTF. Why do I bother telling someone something important ahead of time if they're just going to ignore it or forget it and be unreasonable about it?

Because that's what people do.

Originally posted by: Nik

I'm going to get them up and running again, regardless. However, would it be wrong of me to tell them that from now on they'll need to find someone else to work on their technology solutions? Or should I just put up with it and stick with them for future issues? I really don't want to put up with this kind of bullsh|t.

What else do you need to know?
 

Uppsala9496

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If they are paying you, and the money is worth the hassle, then deal with it.
If you are doing this as a favor, then tell them that you just don't have the time anymore to help. That way you are not burning any bridges, and your reputation is intact.
 

DaveSimmons

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That's why I don't volunteer to help anyone, (even or especially for money) and try to warn the dewy-eyed innocents in General Hardware about building computers for friends and acquaintances. Get them a Dell, dudes.

You might give them one more chance if you like the thought of helping orphaned kids get into good families. Explain as non-violently as you can that you told them the situation and they need to listen and pay attention when you explain a problem and what it will take to fix it.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Nik
I'm going to get them up and running again, regardless. However, would it be wrong of me to tell them that from now on they'll need to find someone else to work on their technology solutions? Or should I just put up with it and stick with them for future issues? I really don't want to put up with this kind of bullsh|t.

What else do you need to know?

What do you mean?
 

meltdown75

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Wow, what a pile of sh!t that is. You have every right to be pissed... I think if you do withdraw your services in the near future, perhaps they will bump their heads together and figure out why. I'd be willing to bet they haven't had much experience with techs... otherwise they would recognize that you're bending over backwards to provide them with good service. Personally I'd cut my losses after this job and move on to clients that appreciate you. Life's too short for BS like that and once you're gone, they'll get a dose of some loser tech guy that doesn't give a crap either way, and they will realize what they lost.
 

Drakkon

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i learned that early on in my freelance days...always put EVERYTHING you can in writting....otherwise there will always be some dumbass who comes along and blame you for a screw up they should have known about or cause....
even if they are your best friends or have been your cust forever at the drop of a hat they can turn into asshats

too bad for you...fix em up then ship em off to another...that'll learn em
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
That's why I don't volunteer to help anyone, and try to warn the dewy-eyed innocents in General Hardware about building computers for friends and acquaintances. Get them a Dell, dudes.

You might give them one more chance if you like the thought of helping orphaned kids get into good families. Explain as non-violently as you can that you told them the situation and they need to listen and pay attention when you explain a problem and what it will take to fix it.

LMFAO! :D :beer:

I have and I will be reminding them that I told them in advance last night, when I see them next.
 

notfred

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I suspected the router as soon as you said:
Well, their computers stopped passing traffic between computers directly

If I had been there, I would have been done 3.5 hours sooner. :p
 

Nikamichi

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Originally posted by: Nik

Seriously, I want your opinions on how I should handle this.

It's simple, if you feel the money is worth it, continue to do your job. If not, then ditch them and have some :cookie:'s.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Originally posted by: digitalsnare
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
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well said

:beer:

So you guys are going to just ignore the whole post including my question about what to do, and thread crap? Seriously, I want your opinions on how I should handle this.



grow up and realize if youre getting paid, or offer to fix something for free even, people willl bitch if their not happy, whether its your fault or not(not fair sometime, but just the way it is). since you went and set up the network for them, i assume they arent familiar with routers, etc. since you could direct connect, why didnt you leave at least one comp with access and they wouldnt have a reason to call. they called you thinking you would fix it, and you didnt.

just go fix it, explain it to them again, and theyll probably be embarrased.

btw, its kind of hard to give an objective opinion when you describe the call as OMG ITS NOT WORKING!! were they pissed, or paniced since they couldnt check their email or what?
 

Juice Box

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Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Originally posted by: Nik

Seriously, I want your opinions on how I should handle this.

It's simple, if you feel the money is worth it, continue to do your job. If not, then ditch them and have some :cookie:'s.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :cookie:s..........