RANT - Spiderman the movie (possible spoilers)

[TuffGuy]

arrrggghhhhhhh!!!!! whoever directed and produced this movie should be SHOT. whoever did the casting and whoever wrote the script whould have the balls cut off.

frigging eh. tobey maguire as spiderman? he is sooooo fvcking boring. anyone that grew up watching spiderman the cartoon will know exactly what i'm talking about. it sounds like he can't even remember the lines. he was probably smoking out between scenes in his trailer. i wonder how many people he had to blow to get the part. ugh. james franco as harry? c'mon... harry was a dork in the cartoon. he's suave in the movie. the hobgoblin? different costume and a different end to him. peter and mary jane? since when did things end THAT way between them? and since when does spiderman shoot the webs out of his wrists?!?!?!

and when did spiderman's mask ever rip in the cartoon? the scene between him and the goblin at the end. that was just RETARDED.

i feel sooooo cheated. whoever was in on the making of this movie probably never watched the cartoon and never read the comic. they should be shot. repeatedly.

oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it.

 

[NFS4]

<< arrrggghhhhhhh!!!!! whoever directed and produced this movie should be SHOT. whoever did the casting and whoever wrote the script whould have the balls cut off.

frigging eh. tobey maguire as spiderman? he is sooooo fvcking boring. anyone that grew up watching spiderman the cartoon will know exactly what i'm talking about. it sounds like he can't even remember the lines. he was probably smoking out between scenes in his trailer. i wonder how many people he had to blow to get the part. ugh. james franco as harry? c'mon... harry was a dork in the cartoon. he's suave in the movie. the hobgoblin? different costume and a different end to him. peter and mary jane? since when did things end THAT way between them? and since when does spiderman shoot the webs out of his wrists?!?!?!

and when did spiderman's mask ever rip in the cartoon? the scene between him and the goblin at the end. that was just RETARDED.

i feel sooooo cheated. whoever was in on the making of this movie probably never watched the cartoon and never read the comic. they should be shot. repeatedly.

oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it. >>




OMG, YOU WILL BE SHOT DEAD BY THE FORUM MEMBERS. I ENJOYED every minute of it (I should for $7.75)

Spider-Man has about a 99% approval rating here in OT

http://subscriber.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=778963

 

[hoihtah]

so many spider threads. i can't wait to see it tonight

 

[Viper GTS]

<< oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it. >>



Don't forget Jerboy.

Viper GTS

 

[NFS4]

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<< oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it. >>



Don't forget Jerboy.

Viper GTS >>



LOL, is that for real though (about Tobey's head & body)? I read that he bulked up for the role.

 

[TuffGuy]

<< OMG, YOU WILL BE SHOT DEAD BY THE FORUM MEMBERS. I ENJOYED every minute of it (I should for $7.75)

Spider-Man has about a 99% approval rating here in OT >>


so some ignorant people who never watched the cartoon when they were growing up approve of the hollywood version. what do they know? tobey maguire flat out SUCKED as spiderman. he's is BORING, MONOTONOUS, and CAN'T REMEMBER THE FRIGGIN LINES. he mumbles half the time. he has NO sense of humor.

he SUCKED!

 

[TuffGuy]

<< LOL, is that for real though (about Tobey's head & body)? I read that he bulked up for the role. >>


yeah. he said it during an interview. something about having a hard time matching the double's movements so that they could do the overlay.

 

[SpecialEd]

umm.. i'm pretty sure Stan Lee was on the set the whole time....

personally I loved the movie. Shoot out of the wrists was a little weird.... but then building web slingers and having web fluid cartrigates would have been alittle harder to explain....

oh yeah... and spider gets his mask ripped all the time... i have aleast four or five comic books where it happens.

 

[zimmie6576]

<< the hobgoblin? different costume and a different end to him. >>



The Hobgoblin was in the movie? Where?




<< peter and mary jane? since when did things end THAT way between them? >>



Things aren't ending that way with them. This is the first of probably at least two sequels, so there relationship will most likely become something more later on.




<< oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it. >>



Where was he half naked? If you mean the scene where he looks in the mirror when he first wakes up after being bit, that was him. There was lots of info buzzing around about how much he worked out for the role.

For everyone else here, let me just say: flame on (not me, him).

 

[NFS4]

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<< the hobgoblin? different costume and a different end to him. >>



The Hobgoblin was in the movie? Where?




<< peter and mary jane? since when did things end THAT way between them? >>



Things aren't ending that way with them. This is the first of probably at least two sequels, so there relationship will most likely become something more later on.




<< oh yeah, and for the girls... that's not really tobey half-naked. it's a stunt double with tobey's head overlayed on it. >>



Where was he half naked? If you mean the scene where he looks in the mirror when he first wakes up after being bit, that was him. There was lots of info buzzing around about how much he worked out for the role.

For everyone else here, let me just say: flame on (not me, him). >>



LOL, yup. Someone doesn't know what he's talking about, then is gonna flame the movie and director b/c of it The HobbGoblin wasn't even IN this movie

 

[PlatinumGold]

<< Where was he half naked? If you mean the scene where he looks in the mirror when he first wakes up after being bit, that was him. There was lots of info buzzing around about how much he worked out for the role.
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no way that was him. it was so obviously body double. the movement was so awkward. you could see slight discrepencies in his neck.

 

[Adul]

*sits back and eats popcorn *

 

[Jzero]

Did you read the comic yourself? It's pretty well in-keeping with the comic.
I think Tobey is a lousy actor, but remember that Peter Parker was typically a shy, quiet kid.

As for the deal with him and MJW, they played cat and mouse for a looooooooong time in the comic book. I think it's clear that more happens in the sequels.

Hobgoblin and Green Goblin aren't the same character.
I agree with the shooting webs out of his wrists...that didn't happen. His spidey sense also seemed to fail at convenient times just to drive the plot.
I believe I have seen his costume get pretty well beat in a few of the comic books. When the "Alien Costume" came to be, in fact, his red and blue costume had been completely destroyed.

As for the makers of the movie not having watched the cartoon or read the comic, Stan Lee produced the film and consulted for it. Nothing was done without his approval, and being that he created Spiderman, I like to think he has a pretty good feel for how it should be

 

[isildur]

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool...

 

[StageLeft]

Are you joking? Stop trying to compare a MOVIE to an old cartoon that MOST people don't really care that much about! I watched the cartoon YEARS ago and to me this was a good movie.

 

[TuffGuy]

<< The Hobgoblin was in the movie? Where? >>


the goblin. sorry. are you trying to tell me that it was accurate?


<< Things aren't ending that way with them. This is the first of probably at least two sequels, so there relationship will most likely become something more later on. >>


you mean there's MORE of tobey maguire?!?! :Q :| :Q :| :Q :| :Q :|


<< Where was he half naked? If you mean the scene where he looks in the mirror when he first wakes up after being bit, that was him. There was lots of info buzzing around about how much he worked out for the role. >>


wrong again...


<< oh yeah... and spider gets his mask ripped all the time... i have aleast four or five comic books where it happens. >>


yeah, but he always tries to hide his face or makes some temp mask to cover his face. plus, the whole ripped facemask thing looked RETARDED.

any other comments?

 

[zimmie6576]

<< personally I loved the movie. Shoot out of the wrists was a little weird.... but then building web slingers and having web fluid cartrigates would have been alittle harder to explain.... >>



That's how I felt. I'm not saying that the organics are better than the mechanical ones, but I still find it hard to believe that a high school kid, no matter how smart he is, could invent something like web fluid, considering no one has even come close (that I know of). Oh yeah, don't start on how "if it was authentic the webbing would come out of his a$$, not his wrists", by that vein, it could never happen that a genetically-enhanced (or radioactive) spider could bite someone and give them super powers.

 

[brnbngls]

Everything I've ever read on this movie stated that Maguire bulked up for the role. Of course, in this day and age it's hard to believe everything you read or hear.

In any case, this rant is completely invalid. First of all, he didn't even get the villians name right. Green Goblin. Second of all, he died in much the same way as in the book. The glider impaled him. Granted the fight didn't take place in a warehouse. Third, the mask does get ripped quite a bit in the comics. I recall several knock down drag outs in which his mask almost completely got destroyed. Remember, this was adapted from the comics, not the cartoon. Raimi was selected to direct because of his infatuation with the comic story line.

Granted, it's been several years since I've read the comics, I'll admit that upfront. But didn't Peter Parker and M.J. just recently get hitched? Someone who's more familiar can answer that one.

The whole web shooting out of his wrists has been debated at great length. And I say get over it. Movies are always going to take some liberties with the stories from which they are adapted. In fact, it makes more sense for him to have the ability to spin his own webs rather than fabricate them. He's supposed to have qualities of a spider for cryin' out loud.

In conclusion, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how ludicrous it might be.

 

[amnesiac]

The Hobgoblin wasn't even in the movie. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot before watching films.
I thought the casting was decent, I can't think of anyone significantly more appropriate for the roles.
I'll concede the point about the webbing, but it was probably done to save time (i.e. building web shooters, etc.)
And if you were a true geek, you'd be comparing the film to the COMICS, not the cartoon. Since when has a comic book cartoon been an adequate representation of the comic itself? On that note, keep in mind that whenever media is translated to the big screen, it becomes an ADAPTATION, meaning it is changed to fit the audience as well.

 

[ZeroBurn]

first off, why do we need a new thread for every opinion on spider-man, and a different one from everyone announcing they saw it? there's a dozen and a half threads you could have replied to.

but hey, i'm game. lets start the games.


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frigging eh. tobey maguire as spiderman? he is sooooo fvcking boring. anyone that grew up watching spiderman the cartoon will know exactly what i'm talking about. >>



i grew up watching the cartoons, and have them on VHS in the cabinet. tobey played peter exactly the way he was meant to be played, a typical nerd. he was just timid and reserved enough to make it believable. if anything, the character in the cartoons was too unbelievable, he looked like a jock that acted like a nerd, it just didn't seem to fit. if anything he didn't play the spider-man part as well as he could have, with more flair and a different personality. peter parker he nailed, lets hope he develops a better alter-persona for the sequel.



<< james franco as harry? c'mon... harry was a dork in the cartoon. he's suave in the movie. >>



franco nailed the part, the important part wasn't how suave he was- it was that he was daddy's little boy, and developed violent tendencies and feelings of betrayal and vengence. once again, i felt this was considerably better than the comic.



<< the hobgoblin? different costume and a different end to him. >>



your credibility in the spider-man series builds. hobgoblin != green goblin. with a couple hundred pages of story relating to the green goblin, i highly doubt they were going to fit all the story into 2 hrs.



<< peter and mary jane? since when did things end THAT way between them? >>



the dialogue here was definitely the lamest part of the movie, it was like watching well, i'd say planes crashing into buildings but there are a few people that might take offense i suppose. it was nice they went for the "everyone i love ends up getting hurt" recurring spider-man theme though.


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and since when does spiderman shoot the webs out of his wrists?!?!?! >>



organics, bugs me to no end. yes, pretty much every diehard spidey fan feels ripped off by this.


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and when did spiderman's mask ever rip in the cartoon? the scene between him and the goblin at the end. that was just RETARDED. >>



i believe i recall several fights his mask is ripped/burned to some degree so you can see the peter parker ego underneath it. beautiful scene i think, you really see how it's still just a kid under that mask as hard as he plays his cocky attitude as spider-man.


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i feel sooooo cheated. whoever was in on the making of this movie probably never watched the cartoon and never read the comic. they should be shot. repeatedly. >>



i guess the popular quote running around the forums was

Cry me a River.
Then build me a Bridge.
And get over it.

 

[zimmie6576]

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<< The Hobgoblin was in the movie? Where? >>


the goblin. sorry. are you trying to tell me that it was accurate? >>



No, I was jokingly teasing you about your mistake. Guess that's not allowed.



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<< Things aren't ending that way with them. This is the first of probably at least two sequels, so there relationship will most likely become something more later on. >>


you mean there's MORE of tobey maguire?!?! :Q :| :Q :| :Q :| :Q :| >>



Well, yeah. And that's not a bad thing, it's a good thing.




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<< Where was he half naked? If you mean the scene where he looks in the mirror when he first wakes up after being bit, that was him. There was lots of info buzzing around about how much he worked out for the role. >>


wrong again... >>



If you say so... I know for a fact that he did "bulk up" a lot for the movie, so IMO, that could just as easily be him. The muscles weren't that big.

 

[NFS4]

OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Maguire,+Tobey


<< Packed on several pounds to fit his role in Spiderman. >>



Yeah, I bet Tobey bulked up for the role and THEN STILL used a body double....uh huh, whatever

 

[TuffGuy]

1) i am comparing it to the CARTOON, which i grew up watching, not the comic
2) i already corrected myself about the goblin. the costume is still inaccurate. i seem to remember a cape and a pouch in which he used to carry the bombs.
3) i can't remember any episode where his mask was ripped off like that
4) he was always TRYING to get mary jane, but he never blew her off
5) oh yeah, no spider sense in the movie
6) TOBEY MAGUIRE SUCKED AS SPIDERMAN

7) stan lee's not stupid. of course he approved the changes. he "hollywoodized it." there's no way that you can fit in all of spiderman in one movie.


compare spiderman to batman. the difference in quality is obvious.

 

[SpecialEd]

<< The Hobgoblin wasn't even in the movie. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot before watching films.
I thought the casting was decent, I can't think of anyone significantly more appropriate for the roles.
I'll concede the point about the webbing, but it was probably done to save time (i.e. building web shooters, etc.)
And if you were a true geek, you'd be comparing the film to the COMICS, not the cartoon. Since when has a comic book cartoon been an adequate representation of the comic itself? On that note, keep in mind that whenever media is translated to the big screen, it becomes an ADAPTATION, meaning it is changed to fit the audience as well. >>




exactly...



i consider myself a spiderman fan.. I have 50-60 spiderman comics... however, i've never seen this cartoon you're raving about. The comics is where its at... and the movie does a good job of holding true the classic stories of spiderman.

 

[brnbngls]

Your basis is completely shot now. The movie was an adaptation of the comic book. The cartoon was an adaptation of the comic. Low and behold, they're both different. *GASP*

You're no spider fan.