RANT: Radiohead - Hail to the Thief Copy Controlled "CD"

[MercenaryForHire]

RaynorWolfcastle - I have a much better suggestion than any of this.

Call or email EMI.
Tell them you have a Mac, and can't listen to your new CD.
Wait two weeks.
Open mailbox and package containing fresh, unprotected CD.
Enjoy.

- M4H

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

this one says it works on Macs (incl. OS X) on the back side. Besides I managed to rip all the tracks except for the last one (my marker skills aren't 1337 enough to stop right at the end of the last track, right before the TOC begins)

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
RaynorWolfcastle - I have a much better suggestion than any of this.

Call or email EMI.
Tell them you have a Mac, and can't listen to your new CD.
Wait two weeks.
Open mailbox and package containing fresh, unprotected CD.
Enjoy.

- M4H

Horrible advice, why joke about owning a Mac?

Lemme rip one from you. Text

BTW, I would say screw it and download it, because I just did and the cd isn't that good.

Hail to what Thief? Because not even a thief would steal it.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
RaynorWolfcastle - I have a much better suggestion than any of this.

Call or email EMI.
Tell them you have a Mac, and can't listen to your new CD.
Wait two weeks.
Open mailbox and package containing fresh, unprotected CD.
Enjoy.

- M4H

Horrible advice, why joke about owning a Mac?

Lemme rip one from you. Text

BTW, I would say screw it and download it, because I just did and the cd isn't that good.

Hail to what Thief? Because not even a thief would steal it.

So since you've hosted it on your own little server, where else are you suggesting people off themselves?

- M4H

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
RaynorWolfcastle - I have a much better suggestion than any of this.

Call or email EMI.
Tell them you have a Mac, and can't listen to your new CD.
Wait two weeks.
Open mailbox and package containing fresh, unprotected CD.
Enjoy.

- M4H

Horrible advice, why joke about owning a Mac?

Lemme rip one from you. Text

BTW, I would say screw it and download it, because I just did and the cd isn't that good.

Hail to what Thief? Because not even a thief would steal it.

So since you've hosted it on your own little server, where else are you suggesting people off themselves?

- M4H

Bah, only hosting it there because I can't find the original link.

 

[Chumpman]

Thanks for making me laugh M4H.

 

[AlienCraft]

Try playing it on a conventional CD player. Use the ANALOG outputs to the sound Card input.
Record it to HDD. Rip to mp3 , make copies, whatever you want to do.
Crisis over.

 

[mwtgg]

Ok, get a new pack of CDRs, wear latex gloves, and copy the cd with AlienCraft's method. Send the copied cd to EMI, with a letter to go screw themselves.

 

[simms]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: illustri
all you idiots are overlooking the fact that the OP bought this cd and wants to legally make a copy of it for personal use

Newbie say what?

Random quotes from other ATers:
"return it"
"take it back to the store"
"say it doesn't play"

No, we totally missed the "he bought it" point.

+ 1

OMG to the people suggesting he just DOWNLOAD it and that he's STUPID for not doing so in the first place -- i mean i completely hate RIAA and all their crap -- but you stooges almost make validate their position

OMGHI2U too, dumbass. English not your first language?

"Just d/l the bloody tracks. You paid your dues by buying the cd." - Koing

+ 1

this man BOUGHT (in my opinion a defective product) and is asking for solutions if anyone knew, he's not commiting any crimes and is in this alone is more HONORABLE than any of you dishonest bastards (hey i personally will never buy a cd and i dl HORRENDOUS amounts of "copyrighted intelgenital properties" but i will never call someone who partakes in HONEST transactions stupid)

So we're dishonest bastards for suggesting he download copies of music he legally owns, but you're a L33t L33t Ju4r3zx0r Do0d and that's okay?

POT TO KETTLE - YOU ARE BLACK. REPEAT - YOU ARE BLACK.

raynor btw i believe there is (however un-elegant) solution for copy controlled cds which involves using TAPE and MARKER to blank out the fvcked up data on the cd, thereby allowing a cdrom to read, dont know if this method still or will ever work for your specific copy protection but worth a try

Your only redeeming quality, but you offer no advice and not even a Google results link.

Stop posting, stop breathing, do not reproduce. End yourself.

- M4H

haha, 0wned. for M4H.

 

[luv2chill]

Hmmm... where does it say on the disc/liner notes that is is copy controlled?

Because I bought a copy (non LE) at Best Buy the week it came out and brought it straight home and ripped it with EAC--no problems at all.

I guess it's possible my copy doesn't have the copy protection, but are there any distinguishing marks to verify?

l2c

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: luv2chill
Hmmm... where does it say on the disc/liner notes that is is copy controlled?

Because I bought a copy (non LE) at Best Buy the week it came out and brought it straight home and ripped it with EAC--no problems at all.

I guess it's possible my copy doesn't have the copy protection, but are there any distinguishing marks to verify?

l2c

I don't think the US version is copy controlled.

 

[sxr7171]

NM

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: Koing Just d/l the bloody tracks. You paid your dues by buying the cd. You can sh!t on the cd for anyone cares. The artist/publisher/ etc got there £13 out of you. Just don't share the files. Only for personal ulse. Koing

I don't want the mp3 tracks compressed by Joe Q. Incompetent, I paid for pristine, uncompressed CD tracks. I can't use Linux or EAC. The damn CD works by having 2 TOCs, one is good and the other one with information that makes no sense (eg. tracks with negative lengths). (Most) CD players only read the first TOC so there's no problem. Any CD player or CD-ROM capable of handling multisession cds sees the TOC with the bad info and so can't see what the hell is going on with the audio tracks but because the TOC portion referring to the data session is good, you can install their POS player with the 48kbps songs :|

It's not like lossless compression isn't a reality

yeah because I have nothing better to do on a saturday afternoon/evening than scour the web looking for the lossless-compressed copies of a CD that may or may not exist.

Exactly, isnt that why you paid the $18 for the damn CD? So you don't have to spend your time looking for the file on a file sharing network. On top of the audacity of these stupid record companies to prevent you from using music you legally bought in a portable player, they now are looking to sue people who download music off of filesharing networks. So this "solution" of finding the file on the net can get you sued, and even if you show that you own the CD, you still have to deal with a bunch of legal hassle that many of us can do without.
To avoid all this bull$hit is supposed to be the incentive to buy the CD instead of stealing it. If they take away that incentive, there is no remaining incentive to not go download it for free (other than that highly overvalued moral incentive).

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Try playing it on a conventional CD player. Use the ANALOG outputs to the sound Card input. Record it to HDD. Rip to mp3 , make copies, whatever you want to do. Crisis over.

But passing that analog signal through a cheap computer sound card kills its quality. It would be better to record the digital signal to a set top recorder that accepts a digital stream, and use that CD to rip or play. Even that introduces jitter, but most people couldn't care less.

 

[Bootprint]

Remember next time to read the back of the case, it'll say Copy Controlled. I've ripped the new Radio Head from EMI, which has Copy Controls. Only had problem ripping the first track on certain CD readers, others no problem. David Usher's Hallucinations is the say way.

In order to copy these two Copy Controlled "CDs" I've never had to resort to using the damaging the disk with a marker.

Just remember all the EMI "CDs" are going this way in Canada. I picked up the Dandy Warhols a few months ago as an import, when it was finally released by EMI in Canada the bloody think was Copy Controlled.

 

[StageLeft]

Interesting considering that their ok computer was released free by them on the net wasn't it? Or the one after that anyway I think.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Bootprint
Remember next time to read the back of the case, it'll say Copy Controlled. I've ripped the new Radio Head from EMI, which has Copy Controls. Only had problem ripping the first track on certain CD readers, others no problem. David Usher's Hallucinations is the say way.

In order to copy these two Copy Controlled "CDs" I've never had to resort to using the damaging the disk with a marker.

Just remember all the EMI "CDs" are going this way in Canada. I picked up the Dandy Warhols a few months ago as an import, when it was finally released by EMI in Canada the bloody think was Copy Controlled.

I think that they sell the Copy Controlled CDs everywhere but the US because in the US they have the DMCA and courts that'll grant them any subpoena they request. Everywhere else, they'd likely get the finger if they tried suing people identified only by IP as they are doing in the US.

 

[Koing]

ba M4H he paid for it.

I wouldn't sugest him go d/l if he did not pay for it.

He paid for the cd and he can do whatever he wants with it, as long as he doesn't share it. I see no wrong in this.

Not stealling as he did pay for the cd and has his rights to listen to it. He can listen to the mp3 or what not he d/l also.

Koing

 

[illustri]

by mwtgg

By the way.. buy a cd? ahhahahhahahaha. Sorry.

merc, its hard to fathom how you have 60x my postcount and when you've been on AT nearly half as long, as if totally defeat the old adage "practice makes perfect" your posts are anything but

but you brought up an interesting point, if he downloads the tracks online, that source according to present belief is already breaking the law - whether or not he actually owns the music wouldn't that be by accessory also illegal

as if he had bought x cd but due to some defect or wear it no longer reads, so he goes to the warehouse and steals another one

btw i know its "copyright infringement" and not "stealing" to download music so my example may not be totally apt, but what then

 

[SludgeFactory]

I found this guy's experience with the same CD and correspondence with EMI Canada. That may or may not work to get you a replacement, I don't know. As long as the complaints are on a small scale they probably are just sending out new discs to shut up the few squeaky wheels. If they've gotten many complaints, the policy may be different now. But regardless they need to hear a lot of bitching and moaning from dissatisfied music purchasers.

This CD uses Cactus Data Shield 200 (CDS200) protection. If you google that, you'll come up with a lot of information and possibly some ways to rip it without resorting to the magic marker, although having a Mac will probably limit your options. It looks like successful ripping is highly dependent on both software and CD reader.

BMG is threatening to start up with copy-controlled releases in the US. Woohoo.