Rant: Forced sales in Technical Support

LordRaiden

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Up until about 6-9 months ago, a friend of mine working for a internet/telco company (which shall remain nameless so my friend doesn't loose his job) was doing regular internet tech support just like you'd find at any quality ISP. However, now the company has told the technical support people that they must now not only do their regular jobs, but they must now also offer and try to upsell 100% of all customers they talk to. The biggest push is to try to upsell them on phone service, but they're also trying to get the other technical support reps to upsell other company products as well, many of which are totally unrelated to Technical support at all.

I can understand them maybe "ASKING" the reps to recommend things like their spam filter service or the virus scanning service to customers "where and when applicable" and make it voluntary. However they have totally forced the reps to try to upsell every service possible on every single call!! :disgust::|

To me this is a job for Customer Service, not technical support. I for one don't want to be calling in saying that "Hey, I need your DNS servers" and have the rep go into a long deal about "You really need our phone service, and you should have our specialized virus and spam protection! Oh wait, we've got a new family friendly service too!!" That's just crude and unneeded. If a company can't sell its products via normal channels, that ought to say something about the company. Everyone, or at least a good majority of the people working for the company in question all agree that the company sucks and so do its products. And yes, I was using the quality ISP as a reference, not as a description of them. They're anything but that.

They also agree that 90% or better of the issues have been caused by upper management and that the company is in a bad enough straits that it will be seeing bankruptsy court soon enough. The part that's even worse is the upper management is blaming its screwups on all the underlings and trying to force them to fix management's impotence and stupidity. *sigh* Ok, I'm done ranting. I just think all of this is stupid. I mean seriously, who wants to have to deal with a sales pitch when all you're trying to do is get technical information or get your problem with your computer fixed? I sure as heck don't. Sales, marketing, and pitching of products should be left for Marketing and Customer Service. If the company is failing even though all the people under them are doing their best, then the company needs to go under. Either that or the upper management needs to get fired.

Personally, I'd love to see this company succeed. Just not in this form. It used to be good. Then the current management showed up and things royally went to h3ll in a hand basket. Ok, I'm done ranting. Let me know if you agree with my rant or not. But either way I'm done. :frown:
 

rawoutput

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Thats just extra revenue opportunities that are wasted if your tech's don't say anything. If someone is just calling up to figure out their e-mail, maybe they would be interested in virus scanning and the happy family crap too? They might not even know about the products until the tech mentions them. Are they getting comission? I got bored after the 3rd sentance of your post so if you mentioned that I didn't see it, sorry.
 

LordRaiden

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Nope. But I will say that it ain't AT&T. :)

Let's just say I don't want to get my friend fired for my rant. :D

Especially since he leaked what they consider "Privaledged company information." Aka the employees have to pretend like the company is the greatest on the planet and aren't supposed to tell anyone about the really horrible stuff that goes on there.

I think one of my favorite quotes from the place he works at came from the CEO. "We want to be just like everyone else." Problem is, NOT being like everyone else is what made them so great in the first place. No wonder they're driving hard towards sucksville. I hear the turnaround rate in their technical support department alone is horrid. About 1 in 10 new hires are staying past 3-6 weeks. The rest are all quitting.
 

LordRaiden

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Originally posted by: rawoutput
Thats just extra revenue opportunities that are wasted if your tech's don't say anything. If someone is just calling up to figure out their e-mail, maybe they would be interested in virus scanning and the happy family crap too? They might not even know about the products until the tech mentions them. Are they getting comission? I got bored after the 3rd sentance of your post so if you mentioned that I didn't see it, sorry.
No idea honesty. As far as I know, not one dime. I can honestly understand them being ASKED to offer this to customers on a per need basis, but not making them Force each and ever single thing that they can sell down the customers throught on every call. That's what I was getting at.

Sure, I can understand bringing the family and virus stuff to their attention from time to time, especially on email related calls, but not EVERY call and not in a Mandatory manor. These guys have a hard enough job as it is.
 

bozo1

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Qwest started doing that a while ago. Had phone trouble and had to listen to a sales speech before I could even tell the person what my problem was. Pissed me off.

 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Nope. But I will say that it ain't AT&T. :)

Let's just say I don't want to get my friend fired for my rant. :D

Especially since he leaked what they consider "Privaledged company information." Aka the employees have to pretend like the company is the greatest on the planet and aren't supposed to tell anyone about the really horrible stuff that goes on there.

I think one of my favorite quotes from the place he works at came from the CEO. "We want to be just like everyone else." Problem is, NOT being like everyone else is what made them so great in the first place. No wonder they're driving hard towards sucksville. I hear the turnaround rate in their technical support department alone is horrid. About 1 in 10 new hires are staying past 3-6 weeks. The rest are all quitting.

Sounds like Sprint to me ;)
 

dighn

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man today we are force fed so much advertisement. seems everyday they are trying new ways to feed us more advertisement and tick us off.

 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: dighn
man today we are force fed so much advertisement. seems everyday they are trying new ways to feed us more advertisement and tick us off.

you know there are some great stress relief products out there to help you with your situation...i just happen to represent a company.....

kidding ;)
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
Originally posted by: dighn
man today we are force fed so much advertisement. seems everyday they are trying new ways to feed us more advertisement and tick us off.

you know there are some great stress relief products out there to help you with your situation...i just happen to represent a company.....

kidding ;)

/me kicks rudeguy5757
/me kicks rudeguy5757 repeatedly