Rant against the Chrysler "Detroit" Ad...

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Lifer
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Ads like these are sad because they are nothing but illusions of grandeur to an audience in need of such.

Meanwhile, the powers that be in this country, on both sides of the aisle, are using our tax dollars to make sure as much intellectual property and jobs are transferred to China for short-term gain.

Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE and renown outsourcer of jobs has just been selected by Obama to head his "new jobs" council. Obama could not have selected a worse person for this but he just had to reward one of the biggest contributors to his election campaign.

Of course GE has just announced a venture to jointly manufacture jet engines with Chinese companies. (BTW: The mock-jet pictured in the NYT article is a near copy of the Airbus A320...) Mark my words, within 10 years, China will have copied our IP and will be selling the United States jet engines at prices we cannot compete. We see it over and over again and yet nothing is done to tax Chinese imports or protect American jobs and IP.

Here is a perfect example of how China "assimilates" American technology and then puts American companies at a disadvantage.

Everyone knows that China has and is manipulating its currency to keep its goods artificially cheap yet they were just cleared of all charges of doing such by the US Treasury??? Are you fvcking serious?

I ate brunch yesterday with someone who is close to the US International Trade Commission. He says that they see constant wrongdoings by China but as soon as they attempt to make their case against them, the phone rings from someone...someone with extreme influence...and warns them to cease their actions. Why? Why are the powers that be so hell-bent on making sure that China walks away with everything including the kitchen sink?

These are the questions you all should be concerned about.

Detroit is not coming back. It never will. Detroit should be a warning sign to all of us for what is in store for every city and state in this nation: bankruptcy and collapse. And when it hits the federal government and the US Dollar completely loses its value, the images we are seeing from Cairo will seem like child's play.

It's all unsustainable.

Watching pretty little ads like this is akin to holding our hands over our ears while we sing songs to ourselves. Meanwhile, we keep electing two-faced liars to Congress and the White House, happy with the fact that they can whistle us a good tune while they stab us all in the back with a fork for which we gave them the money to buy.

Where will you and your loved ones be when the music stops?
 

boomerang

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Share your thoughts with your Congress critters. It's all about anyone can do at this point short of armed insurrection. The deck is stacked to the point where we can't even vote them out because their clones are waiting to take over.
 

Throckmorton

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Your post is a non sequitur and doesn't make any sense. It's an advertisement for Detroit. If you buy American cars you support American industry. You should be praising ads like this that get people to be proud of what we build here... otherwise they accept shipping all our jobs overseas as inevitable, and even a good thing. The right wing in this country HATES the American worker, and will choose foreign cars whenever possible.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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I agree with the OP. However, while congress and the President may be the only ones who can address the problem, I do not agree they are the source of the problem. Corporate America has led us down that path and continues to destroy American jobs in pursuit of a profit.
 

Trianon

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Ads like these are sad because they are nothing but illusions of grandeur to an audience in need of such.

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It's all unsustainable.

Watching pretty little ads like this is akin to holding our hands over our ears while we sing songs to ourselves. Meanwhile, we keep electing two-faced liars to Congress and the White House, happy with the fact that they can whistle us a good tune while they stab us all in the back with a fork for which we gave them the money to buy.

Where will you and your loved ones be when the music stops?

Sad but True.
 

Throckmorton

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You're like a guy who sees a WWII ad telling you to plant victory gardens, and saying "but we're losing!". You fool, planting victory gardens is one of the things that would help us win.

You're completely backwards. How is that not obvious?
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
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Let me guess, OP, you drive a foreign car and shop at Wal Mart. And you blame the government for jobs going overseas.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
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I think you mean, "rant barely related to something in the news but it's a hot topic so I'll post it."
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Let me guess, OP, you drive a foreign car and shop at Wal Mart. And you blame the government for jobs going overseas.

You are thinking the consumer solely drives demand, this is incorrect. As supermarkets have trained consumers to expect all foods to be available all the time no matter the season, corporations have trained consumers to accept low quality, disposable goods as the norm. To large extent, consumers buy what is available, they do not demand their $19.99, "as seen on TV," widget to break inside a month.
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Your post is a paranoid rant. China does far more harm than good, even with their occasional IP theft. Outsourcing resulting in lost American jobs is a well known canard at this point, as evidenced by the cold hard numbers that have seen the U.S. average just above 6% unemployment since outsourcing went into full effect in the early 1980's. If that scares you then I'm sorry, but you're just a fearful individual.
 

ericlp

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waste of space. Yawn...wake me when he has something REAL to say.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Your post is a paranoid rant. China does far more harm than good, even with their occasional IP theft. Outsourcing resulting in lost American jobs is a well known canard at this point, as evidenced by the cold hard numbers that have seen the U.S. average just above 6% unemployment since outsourcing went into full effect in the early 1980's. If that scares you then I'm sorry, but you're just a fearful individual.

Ya know, if you use a long enough time line, the rise and fall of Rome falls into the average unemployment figures.

I guess you fall into the "if rape is inevitable, lay back and enjoy it" crowd.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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Your post is a paranoid rant. China does far more harm than good, even with their occasional IP theft. Outsourcing resulting in lost American jobs is a well known canard at this point, as evidenced by the cold hard numbers that have seen the U.S. average just above 6% unemployment since outsourcing went into full effect in the early 1980's. If that scares you then I'm sorry, but you're just a fearful individual.

Another simpleton, I see. You don't think that unemployment has been kept low with $14T in government debt? That buys a lot of jobs. I thought you claimed to be some kind of economic genius? You can't even correlate simple concepts into a somewhat greater understanding of the world. What a sad little wannabe you are.
 

dmcowen674

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Share your thoughts with your Congress critters.

It's all about anyone can do at this point short of armed insurrection.

The deck is stacked to the point where we can't even vote them out because their clones are waiting to take over.

No way, that can't be true, I was told it's not here by the resident Republicans.
 

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Lifer
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Ya know, if you use a long enough time line, the rise and fall of Rome falls into the average unemployment figures.

I guess you fall into the "if rape is inevitable, lay back and enjoy it" crowd.

Except Rome showed trends of collapse. Meanwhile the U.S. doesn't.
 

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Lifer
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Another simpleton, I see. You don't think that unemployment has been kept low with $14T in government debt? That buys a lot of jobs. I thought you claimed to be some kind of economic genius? You can't even correlate simple concepts into a somewhat greater understanding of the world. What a sad little wannabe you are.

So gov't spending is the reason we've averaged ~ 6% unemployment since 1980? What kind of tard libertarianism is that?
 

zinfamous

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Ever wonder why being a Debtor Nation is bad?

it's in our blood, bro.

We were founded and settled by debtors escaping the horrors of debtor's prison in Europe.

escaping "religious persecution" is only half-true for the Pilgrims, much of that party were simply along for the ride, all of them escaping debts. And such was they way of things for decades after that.

Kind of interesting to think about, really.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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So gov't spending is the reason we've averaged ~ 6% unemployment since 1980? What kind of tard libertarianism is that?

Jobs purchased on the national credit card. The concept is simple. The only tard here is you, wannabe.
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Jobs purchased on the national credit card. The concept is simple. The only tard here is you, wannabe.

Come on, I know sucking down those unemployment checks is hard on your libertarian soul, but now you're telling me the federal government's $14T deficit has created millions of jobs? I guess you'll come to terms on your own time.
 
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Let me guess, OP, you drive a foreign car and shop at Wal Mart. And you blame the government for jobs going overseas.

Yes--because it's the federal government that determines trade policy, work visa policy, and immigration policy (and its enforcement). Why should he not take advantage of the lower prices on the front-end when he has to suffer the high back-end costs regardless of whether or not he buys an American made good or service? It's not like his choosing to buy American will save his job, personally.

The trade situation is akin to a tragedy of the commons. Once a couple people start despoiling the commons (sending millions of jobs overseas, etc.) then everyone has to rush in and get their piece of it.

That doesn't mean that you cannot advocate better regulation of the commons while you're getting your share of it (lest you get screwed).