RANT about jessie stupid jackson!!!

[KevinH]

Carbonyl - If you're talkinga bout Dat Nguyen, the LB for the Cowboys I think he's 100% Vietnamese. I saw a documentary on him on ESPN when he was still in college.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: KevinH
Carbonyl - If you're talkinga bout Dat Nguyen, the LB for the Cowboys I think he's 100% Vietnamese. I saw a documentary on him on ESPN when he was still in college.

I thought I saw that too and his dad was a big ole county boy white dude. Maybe it was his stepdad. Anyway the reasoning still stands IMO.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
75% of the players are black and 100% of the NFL coaches were former players and 95% of the coaches are white. Does that compute?

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
75% of the players are black and 100% of the NFL coaches were former players and 95% of the coaches are white. Does that compute?

No, it doesn't compute. There needs to be more white players, wheres the quota system for whites? That is what you are talking about, right?

KK

I can quantify what makes a good player by watching some film and doing some field work with them. And the best get there, always. How you do that with coaches?

Wins? Well then eddie robinson should be making 14 million a year as an NFL coach.

100% of the NFL coaches were NOT players. So that statement is Nul. The fact of the matter still is that 1/15 of the coaches are black, while 1/10th of the population are black. Thats really close. And in the Lions specific case. They wanted Maruicci, whats the big freagin deal?!?!? He was the coach they wanted for sure, they didnt need to have any interviews. There is more to coaching then just wins. There is how well you handle yourself off the field, and how well you get along with the owner and other factors. So Eddie Robinson may, or may not be the type of coach owners are looking for. But you can't complain that you can't refuse to hire someone based on whether or not you like someone because Jimmy Jones was fired by Dallas because he didnt get along with the owner. And JJ was one of the best coaches at the time.

I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of NFL coaches (if not 100%) were former college or NFL players.

Carbonyl's point is a valid one...

 

[Cuda1447]

Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Give up this race crap. We all love our children, love freedom, and bleed red blood. We are all of the brotherhood of man. Give people credit for their works and deeds, not the color of their skin or the slant of their eyes. It's high time the young usher in a new world, void of racism and backbiting of their forfathers. Evertime I see someone jump all over Jessie Jackson, I just want to slap the piss out of them, because #1, they don't listen to what he says, they just bash him because of the color of his skin and the fact he is against racism and for equality. And #2, the fathers have been racist and it has filtered down generation to generation. Time to change. And the change comes from within each and everyone of you. You must make the change in you, and when that is accomplished, this world will be a much better place, and the war we are about to get into will not be necessary again, because respect for human dignity should prevail.

It starts when we teach our children respect , and threads titled like this one do not show respect. If a white man spoke of the same things as Jessie Jackson, would you be so quick to find fault? I don't think so.

Wow. Nicely said. Looks like I have nothing to add at all. Man I love to rant, oh well. Bummer

 

[Maetryx]

Jessie Jackson is "against racism" in the same way that a trial lawyer is "against malpractice".

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Give up this race crap. We all love our children, love freedom, and bleed red blood. We are all of the brotherhood of man. Give people credit for their works and deeds, not the color of their skin or the slant of their eyes. It's high time the young usher in a new world, void of racism and backbiting of their forfathers. Evertime I see someone jump all over Jessie Jackson, I just want to slap the piss out of them, because #1, they don't listen to what he says, they just bash him because of the color of his skin and the fact he is against racism and for equality. And #2, the fathers have been racist and it has filtered down generation to generation. Time to change. And the change comes from within each and everyone of you. You must make the change in you, and when that is accomplished, this world will be a much better place, and the war we are about to get into will not be necessary again, because respect for human dignity should prevail.

It starts when we teach our children respect , and threads titled like this one do not show respect. If a white man spoke of the same things as Jessie Jackson, would you be so quick to find fault? I don't think so.

Jesse Jackson IS a racist in his own right.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

You know there was a thread similar to this a while back where I had to waste my time showing with links all these great black college coaches who never get a shot at the big schools and great black assistants in the NFL continually passed over but I won't waste my time. I'm sure you're resourceful enough to find it.

Burt just tune in to ESPN to relise everybody talks about the embarrassingly low number of black football coaches. White and black NFL players alike.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

You know there was a thread similar to this a while back where I had to waste my time showing with links all these great black college coaches who never get a shot at the big schools and great black assistants in the NFL continually passed over but I won't waste my time. I'm sure you're resourceful enough to find it.

Burt just tune in to ESPN to relise everybody talks about the embarrassingly low number of black football coaches. White and black NFL players alike.

Is there an embarassing shortage of white rappers? After all, whites make up 70% of the American population. Is there an embarassing shortage of white basketball payers?

Who's embarassed? (hint: not me)

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

By you logic we can just look at the numbers and that is proof enough.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

Tony dungy couldn't win a superbowl with the bucs. Jon Gruden did.


Prove blacks are better athletes. You can't PROVE it. Because it will never be true for all cases.

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

prove they are not

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

prove they are not

I just said you cannot prove, therefore not DISprove.

*edit spelling*

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

prove they are not

I just said you cannot prove, therefore not DISprove. Use your head.


*edit spelling*

that was my point

 

[Cuda1447]

What was? Your point was re-stating what I already said? Good point.

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

prove they are not

black coaches averaged 1.1 more wins per season than the white coaches

· the black coaches led their teams to the playoffs 67% of the time versus 39% of the time for the white coaches

· in their first season, black coaches averaged 2.7 more wins than the white coaches in their first season

· in their final season, terminated black coaches win an average of 1.3 more games than terminated white coaches

· the black coaches inherited teams with an average of 7.4 wins per season and, during their tenures, increased the average wins for their teams to 9.1 per season.

Statistical analysis thus demonstrates that by virtually every objective criteria, black head coaches in the NFL have outperformed their white counterparts. And indeed, as the Report and accompanying profiles illustrate, the coaching tenures of the five African-American NFL coaches are a living testament to this outstanding performance.



Link

Now, you or cuda, please find me a study that countradicts these findings

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
What was? Your point was re-stating what I already said? Good point.

your welcome

 

[Tom]

Blacks are better athletes.

BS

Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

more BS

 

[Zebo]

So as you can see blacks are better coaches too if you use wins and success as the criteria.

See I told you those crackers where prejudiced. BTW you brought up better this better that I was only talking about representation.


Thanks calbear.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: calbear2000

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Whats your point? Ill bet 90% of the worlds population that ever played football are white. The only reason why 75% of the population in NFL are black is becasue Blacks are generally the better athelete.

And I bet 75% of all college and nfl players in the past decade were black.

All (or nearly all) NFL head coaches have been college or nfl players... and are white

Blacks are better athletes. You dont see any whites crying racism because coaches are taking blacks as players over whites do you? No, its just that they are generally better. Just like whites appear to be generally better coaches.

Ok then prove that whites are better coaches and you got a deal.

prove they are not

black coaches averaged 1.1 more wins per season than the white coaches

· the black coaches led their teams to the playoffs 67% of the time versus 39% of the time for the white coaches

· in their first season, black coaches averaged 2.7 more wins than the white coaches in their first season

· in their final season, terminated black coaches win an average of 1.3 more games than terminated white coaches

· the black coaches inherited teams with an average of 7.4 wins per season and, during their tenures, increased the average wins for their teams to 9.1 per season.

Statistical analysis thus demonstrates that by virtually every objective criteria, black head coaches in the NFL have outperformed their white counterparts. And indeed, as the Report and accompanying profiles illustrate, the coaching tenures of the five African-American NFL coaches are a living testament to this outstanding performance.



Link

Now, you or cuda, please find me a study that countradicts these findings

1.1 more wins per season is nothing. Especially when you consider black coaches take over for a team with an avg. of 7 wins per game. And there are atleast 40% of the league with white coaches that have a lower record. Thus decreasing the overall white record. Blacks raise the wins from 7 to 9. Thats 2 games. Teams go thru cycles. They go from winning to losing back to winning back to losing. So if a white or a black takes over for a team that previously lost, they get good draft picks, and boom they are going to do atleast a little better.



Using common sense you can twist your stats anyway you want.

Just like I can say that Whites are better because black coaches have a 0% super bowl percentage while whites have a 5% or whatever you want to say. Does that prove whites are better? No

Just like I can say Whites are better and use a specific example. Dungy lost with the bucs, Gruden didnt. Does that prove it? No

You can't prove it either way because its a case by case scenario. And Mariucci is OBVIOUSLY an extremely good coach. So whats the problem with the Lions deciding they want him and no one else? Did they interview ANY other coaches besides him? If not whats the problem. Oh, and if you read the article it says a few black coaches even rejected an interview with the lions. I guess they didnt want the job eh?

 

[calbear2000]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
What was? Your point was re-stating what I already said? Good point.

your welcome

LOL ... I guess cuda didn't understand that you were on his side eh? That was a humorous exchange of posts.