Ransom-ware, locks 180 people in hotel room....

[OutHouse]

umm yea so who is to blame on this one? the hotel, badging company, software company???

somebody please explain how valuable 1800 Euros in Bitcoin is. seems odd to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hackers-hold-entire-hotel-ransom-213915523.html

 

[nakedfrog]

Isn't that like 2 bitcoins today?
Blame should be shared, seems unlikely there's a legitimate reason for that system to be exposed to the internet. No way for us to know who is ultimately responsible without a lot more specifics.

 

[sdifox]

Err whut? How do you lock people in hotel rooms? I thought fire code requires a mechanical exit method?

 

[zinfamous]

Isn't that like 2 bitcoins today?
Blame should be shared, seems unlikely there's a legitimate reason for that system to be exposed to the internet. No way for us to know who is ultimately responsible without a lot more specifics.

AFAIK, ransomware attacks generally go after small amounts, as an incentive for the victim to just pay and forget about it. But I agree that this one still seems low. I imagine they could have gotten at least $10k from this lux hotel, no?

Err whut? How do you lock people in hotel rooms? I thought fire code requires a mechanical exit method?

Austria, bro. Ain't nobody need regulations there. Also, never underestimate the stupidity of the average human. Hotel conditioning over years to forget these things, maybe?

 

[sdifox]

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...jlcRXCIhTd0r1Optg&sig2=sjTftWNgQUhfYfUGpOwB5Q


That one says locked out, which makes a whole lot more sense.

 

[MrSquished]

interesting.

and oh look a yahoo News based thread!

 

[renz20003]

All existing keys worked, the hotel couldn't make new keys for guests checking in.

 

[ImpulsE69]

but guys..EVERYTHING needs to be computerized and on the internet!

Isn't technology grand? This is only the beginning. I love technology, but, some peoples idea of 'cheap and easy' doesn't contain a bit of 'what if' common sense.

 

[John Connor]

You'd think the damn door locks would be in a closed loop system. Why was it even on the Internet in the first place?

 

[Kaido]

You'd think the damn door locks would be in a closed loop system. Why was it even on the Internet in the first place?

The amount of stuff that is connected to the Internet & shouldn't be is incredible:

https://www.wired.com/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/

http://gizmodo.com/report-cctv-system-in-washington-dc-was-hacked-before-1791734583

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html

 

[John Connor]

Yeah, I know there are far too many systems connected to the Internet. It's just baffling.

 

[Kaido]

Yeah, I know there are far too many systems connected to the Internet. It's just baffling.

Even personal home security stuff is scary. I have a Wink smarthome hub, but I don't connect my front door lock (smartlock) or security cameras to it, just in case it gets hacked somehow. Remember the Samsung debacle last year?

https://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-warning-our-smart-tvs-record-your-living-room-chatter/

Samsung's small print says that its Smart TV's voice recognition system will not only capture your private conversations, but also pass them onto third parties.

Or check out all of the things Google has audibly recorded about you:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...d-their-phones-but-files-can-be-a7059376.html

Even your kid's dolls aren't safe anymore:

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...d-cayla-ique-intelligent-robot-privacy-policy

Not to mention how much data we voluntarily give to social media sites like Facebook, and how many people have tons of plugins, apps, and games that are free to record all of your personal data on those sites. Too much stuff is online these days, from your personal data to vulnerable systems that have no business being Internet-connected, at least not without something like an SSL VPN & DeepFreeze.

 

[John Connor]

Yeah, I always said a smartphone was an advertiser's wet dream. Now with all the other "smart" stuff out there it's an orgy of a wet dream for corporations. Just look at Windows 10 and Cortana (spelling?) Then they force updates on you, etc. Not to mention the ADs they place in your OS. It's just ridiculous.

 

[Darwin333]

How in the hell is that not a fire safety violation to have locks that can prevent you from LEAVING a room?

 

[Darwin333]

All existing keys worked, the hotel couldn't make new keys for guests checking in.

That makes a hell of a lot more sense than guests being locked in their rooms. I can't even imagine a company designing such a lock so that it could be sold and installed in hotels.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yea, the article was being sensationalist. Hotel doors don't lock from the inside.

 

[NoTine42]

Even personal home security stuff is scary. I have a Wink smarthome hub, but I don't connect my front door lock (smartlock) or security cameras to it, just in case it gets hacked somehow. Remember the Samsung debacle last year?

That would stink, your fire alarm goes off in the middle of the night .. only to find out your door locks are all on fire.

 

[zinfamous]

That makes a hell of a lot more sense than guests being locked in their rooms. I can't even imagine a company designing such a lock so that it could be sold and installed in hotels.

Also makes the requested ransom more believable. Probably close to what it would have cost to get a tech out or request some sort of remote fix...or whatever.

If customers were somehow trapped or even locked out of their rooms with no other option, Hotel would have caved on a much larger sum.

 

[Murloc]

article has been translated wrong, it's impossible to lock people inside the rooms.

It was likely normal ransomware that fucked up their computer they need to make new cards.

 

[shortylickens]

article has been translated wrong, it's impossible to lock people inside the rooms.

It was likely normal ransomware that fucked up their computer they need to make new cards.

No it wasnt wrong, its an alternative fact.

 

[Exterous]

You'd think the damn door locks would be in a closed loop system. Why was it even on the Internet in the first place?

There is a big push to have 'Digital Keys' so your smart phone can unlock your room with the hotel's app.

https://www.spgpromos.com/keyless/

 

[spacejamz]

at the bottom of one of the linked articles:

Correction: Due to a misunderstanding, it was stated that guests were locked in their rooms. This was not the case, as guests were free to leave at any time, however they were unable to re-enter their rooms. The story has been edited accordingly.

 

[shortylickens]

There is a big push to have 'Digital Keys' so your smart phone can unlock your room with the hotel's app.

https://www.spgpromos.com/keyless/

OH WELL GEE WIZZ I DONT SEE HOW ANYTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THAT!!





/sarcasm

 

[master_shake_]

ah the IOT.

and we thought it would be AI that would destroy man.

 

[OutHouse]

at the bottom of one of the linked articles:

Correction: Due to a misunderstanding, it was stated that guests were locked in their rooms. This was not the case, as guests were free to leave at any time, however they were unable to re-enter their rooms. The story has been edited accordingly.

thank you