Ranking of Dogs for Intelligence by Breed

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imported_Shivetya

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I don't but I have Shih Tzus...


and seeing as he rated them 70th they Shih Tzu's in question probably wrote him off as a hack and decided that there were far better things to concentrate on that some silly person with a ball :)
 

SirChadwick

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Afghan Hound is DEFINITELY the dumbest dog.

I've never heard of them. Why are they considered as the dumbest breed?

Tell me this dog doesn't look like it is straining to figure out if it is hungry or just gassy.

Oddly enough, that dog look eerily like Paris Hilton, or some other Hollywood "celebrity."


LOL, that dog is huge! It would be funny to see Paris trying to carry one of those around...
 

WildHorse

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
jack russell isnt on the top 25? that seems a bit odd
and isnt intellegence different then, ability to obey a command

Guy on the next property over breeds 'em.

Jack Russell's are evil vicious, hyper mean little beasts. At least all of his are.

No offense if you like them, but after having them run over here all the time harassing (& twice killing) my various peaceful animals I can't stand Jack Russell terriers.

They don't seem very intelligent.
 

ArchCenturion

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I have an Australian Shepard, does anybody know if this is the same as an Australian Cattle dog?

He is pretty smart it seems. Brings back balls, chases the water hose.
 

Vic

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That's a ranking of obedience rather than intelligence. The 2 are not necessarily the same thing. Just because a particular breed might have a streak of independence does not mean that it is not intelligent.
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
I have an Australian Shepard, does anybody know if this is the same as an Australian Cattle dog?

He is pretty smart it seems. Brings back balls, chases the water hose.

No, they are two different dog breeds. Not the same.

Edit: Australian Shepherd is tied for 42nd place on this list.
 

Abel007

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Originally posted by: sao123
NOT EVEN IN THE FVCKING LIST...OMFG!!!

Jack Russel Terrier > *


Jack Russel's are not recognized as a breed by the kennel club or whatever I don't believe.

I love the JRT. Great, smart, small dogs.
 

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Beagles generally don't fare well in tests like that because once they get on a scent they will ignore everything while following it. We won't let ours out in the back yard unleashed even though it is fenced in because of that.
Beagles are "food smart" but they're pretty stubburn when it comes to anything else. The family dog is on an invisbile fence and gets along fine with it. It doesn't matter where he is in the yard though, if someone starts preparing food in the kitchen, he's immediatly up to the house begging :D.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Afghan Hound is DEFINITELY the dumbest dog.

I've never heard of them. Why are they considered as the dumbest breed?

Tell me this dog doesn't look like it is straining to figure out if it is hungry or just gassy.

Oddly enough, that dog look eerily like Paris Hilton, or some other Hollywood "celebrity."


It's Ann Coulter before her TV makeup session.
 

NatePo717

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My dogs are #12 on the list :) ones pretty crafty (she's a year and a half old) .... however our other puppy isn't the brightest bulb on the tree (he's about 6 months old)....
 

IGBT

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..I don't disagree wit the list. Owned large breeds over the years and now have two Chihuahua's. Continualy amazed how intuitive and sharp they are and must to be among the cleanest dogs around. House training was a breeze unlike the others. They have a high degree of situational awareness and always let me know if something's going on.
 

kef7

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As another beagle owner I can also attest to stubborness. I also read somewhere that beagles will respond to hand signals/commands much better than voice commands. I'm not sure about this because my two usually have their eyes/noses to the ground.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: Shlong
I would've thought Golden Retriever would be #1.
I agree,

For me it's

Golden Retriever
Newfoundland
Border Collie

No way. Have you owned both a Border Collie and a Golden? Border Collies are much smarter
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: IGBT
..I don't disagree wit the list. Owned large breeds over the years and now have two Chihuahua's. Continualy amazed how intuitive and sharp they are and must to be among the cleanest dogs around. House training was a breeze unlike the others. They have a high degree of situational awareness and always let me know if something's going on.

And yet, my experience would place them right where they are - maybe a little lower
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Vic
That's a ranking of obedience rather than intelligence. The 2 are not necessarily the same thing. Just because a particular breed might have a streak of independence does not mean that it is not intelligent.

Agreed.

Compliance != intelligence. I have a Rhodesian which ranks in the 50's. I'd agree that she isn't the most responsive to commands. It's not because she's dumb, but because she's stubborn.

Some of the most "trainable" and "compliant" human beings are also mentally handicapped. Many functional mentally challenged people will follow commands all day long...but some of them aren't able to tie their own shoes.

Does that make them smart?

 

Alienwho

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Someday when I get my own place I'd like to get a doberman pincher and a golden retriever or labrador. I've had 3 Labs and they're always excellent dogs. My current lab though is a terrible guard dog. My last one was great though..I think it's a hit or miss. I'd like a doberman because they're very alert/intimidating. The Lab's have always been more relaxed/fun/lazy.
 
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I also think it's a crime thet the Siberian Husky is down at #45.

No kidding, that should be down at the bottom of the barrel. Huskies are about the dumbest breeds - not just obedience, but in self-preservation. You know what the typical Husky approach to a porcupine is?

"Hey, the last time I went after one of those snorting pointy bastards, I ended up with a facefull of barbed quills, yelping in pain as they had to be carefully extracted one by one. :Q

...

I'm gonna get him good this time. :D"

(BTW, if anyone's dog - or your own stupid ass, for that matter - gets quilled, don't yank them out. They're barbed. Cut them off as close to the flesh as possible, which deflates the air pocket inside them, retracting the barbs - then remove.)

- M4H
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Poodles are smart?

that's the problem with the massive amount of inbreeding poodles received at puppy mills across the country during the last several decades. not so long ago they were the most popular dog in america, with a reputation of being strong and sporting.






one of my dogs is on the last page. the other i didn't see. i imagine the guy wouldn't rank bichon frieses very highly. my dog is very smart. too smart, in fact. he will do any command on the first try if you're about to give him a treat. but if he knows you don't have a treat, he just doesn't care.
 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I also think it's a crime thet the Siberian Husky is down at #45.

No kidding, that should be down at the bottom of the barrel. Huskies are about the dumbest breeds - not just obedience, but in self-preservation. You know what the typical Husky approach to a porcupine is?

"Hey, the last time I went after one of those snorting pointy bastards, I ended up with a facefull of barbed quills, yelping in pain as they had to be carefully extracted one by one. :Q

...

I'm gonna get him good this time. :D"

(BTW, if anyone's dog - or your own stupid ass, for that matter - gets quilled, don't yank them out. They're barbed. Cut them off as close to the flesh as possible, which deflates the air pocket inside them, retracting the barbs - then remove.)

- M4H

..I've seen pitbulls completly trashed by porky pines too. So far my Chihuahua's bark furiously at them then run back to the house.


 

SP33Demon

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Was thinking about getting a G.Shepherd, how much would a purebred puppy run me $ wise?