Rammed a curb; what kind of damage could result?

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Ultima

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I was in a parking lot full of snow and my friend was teaching me how to skid sideways and then how to get out of the skid (Because I slid sideways earlier that same night, driving slowly too!, and I had no idea how to get out of that kind of skid so I was just sliding along sideways till I stopped).

We went down the parking lot most of the time but I tried it once going uphill, and well there was a concrete curb covered with snow, I tried to slow down but didn't have enough space and I didn't want to turn and ram a pylon instead. Anyways, I ended up hitting it diagonally at like 15mph or so and the front driver's side tire got flat. The bumper is also a bit loose but I figure that's from the car's weight resting on it after the tire went flat and my friend pushed the car off the curb. It could also be loose from when I drove through a 2 foot snowbank in that same lot... meh.. it was a lot "heavier" then it seemed, I sure felt that and I think the bumper did too.

Anyways, I couldn't get the spare tire on because ONE lugnut couldn't be removed (the wrench would not fit over it). So, I drove on the tire (thereby destroying it) 1km to a garage where I parked it there (it was 3am) and called for a ride home. I got them to change the bad lugnut and put the spare on (since they told me the tire was destroyed and they couldn't remount it on the rim), and I'm getting two new tires for the front. That doesn't bother me too much because the front tires were nearly bald anyways.

What does bother me is that I'm wondering if anything else could be messed up. When I drove home on the spare the alignment seemed ok (other than the obvious pull because of the different tire sizes), and I didn't hear any noises that weren't there before. But I'm wondering if my steering, CV joints, bearings or anything else could have been messed up. For a 14 year old car, it seems to be putting up with my abuse, but damn that was a nasty shock.

Oh, I saw a police car doing a powerslide in his crown victoria at a light, now that was crazy. I've never seen a cop do something like that before.
 

Heisenberg

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The best advice is to have a qualified mechanic look at it. Damage can range anywhere from bent rims to suspension parts being bent or broken. I slid on some snow awhile back and hit a curb at only 5 mph. I got lucky because the only broken was a $15 sway bar bracket, but I would've never known if I hadn't had the car looked at the next day,
 

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Heh.. my rim's not bent at all, not even messed up from driving 1km on it with the tire half off ;)
I'll ask tomorrow though when I bring the car to get the new tires installed.
 

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Same thing happened to me... except it was in the rain. I hit a curb and it bent my tire. I had it looked at and it was like $1250 in damages! :Q BUT, my insurance covered it and I paid $250.. PLUS, I got my already-fritzy radiator fixed in the process :D
 

Ultima

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OMG that is insane.. $1250??? If that's US that's like 3x the value of my car ;)
Heh.. no.. these older cars are made of solid steel, they just won't die so easily... I hope ;)
I'll find out tomorrow :eek:
 

Evadman

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Just a little hint. Next time, go to a gas station and use the air hose. most are powerful enough to pop the bead back on.

The tire being on the car would require a much stronger pump, but I did it once on my prelude. ( I blew a front doing a J-turn while showing off
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Ns1

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i hit a curb

at 25

front right suspension totally gone

cracked hte brake caliper too

total cost ~1400
 

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I hit a foot deep pothole curb pulling into my driveway (My driveway is level with the street and the gutter/curb carrys irrigation water so it is a hole with a 2 foot ramp you drive over to get to your driveway.) and blew out the rear struts. Cost me $400 for the cheapest struts repaired at the cheapest shop in town. You could have serious damage, get it looked at.
 

Deeko

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I was trying to teach my ex how to drive, she did well, tried to pull up to the side of the road to stop for me to drive again....WAM nailed the curb, nice and hard, popped my tire.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Just a little hint. Next time, go to a gas station and use the air hose. most are powerful enough to pop the bead back on.

The tire being on the car would require a much stronger pump, but I did it once on my prelude. ( I blew a front doing a J-turn while showing off
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Yeah, well to get to the gas station I had to drive on the tire which destroyed it :)

If I had had a can of compressed air with me... that probably would have worked. Ah well..
 

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I got it looked at, and the only thing the mechanic told me is that the left inner tie rod needs replacing. Other than that and the tire, he didn't see any other damage. That's surprising because my car is 14 years old and I nailed that curb pretty hard, diagonally too. I guess the alignment is fine too because the car tracks pretty much as it did before the impact.

Now that I have these two good tires on the front and my old tires on the back, my back has an unnerving tendancy to slide.
I did a 180 going around a suburban curve today.. the fact that I did the 180 and wasn't able to get out of the spin made me go around 10 more times, on the 10th time I almost nailed a mailbox so I figured I better find a parking lot.. but now all the parking lots have been plowed and salted so they're dry :(

Where and I supposed to practice getting out of rear-wheel skids? I realize practicing is what made me blow the tire but now I don't have to go 35mph to make the rear slide because the front grips a lot better now. I can make it slide at 5mph. The problem is, I suck at getting OUT of the skid! I have this tendency to go right for the brake as soon as I slide.. sometimes that helps but often it makes it worse and I just do a 180.
 

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I just hit a parking block a few days ago. I broke the shock. I also messed the alignment. I am glad I did not mess up the tires. I have very expensive tires and blowing one of them would suck.
 

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If you begin to slide take your foot off of both pedels and steer into the skid ( the same way the ass of your car is going. ) For the most part, this will get you out of the skid, or keep you from going any farther. If I start to skid in my truck, and take my foot off the gas ( assumign it is a power skid ) my truck tends to just keep sliding sideways till it stops. If i wasnt ti to come back, I keep my foot in the gas and steer past where the rear is going, so the back comes back around.

all vehicles are different. Practice is good, but LOW SPEED practice. 5 MPH max. You don't need any more unless you are in a HUGE parking lot with lots of run off room. to test, just take your foot off the gas at a certain speed, and see how long it takes your vehicle to stop withotu touching the brakes. That would be your max sliding distance, or close to it.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Evadman
If you begin to slide take your foot off of both pedels and steer into the skid ( the same way the ass of your car is going. ) For the most part, this will get you out of the skid, or keep you from going any farther. If I start to skid in my truck, and take my foot off the gas ( assumign it is a power skid ) my truck tends to just keep sliding sideways till it stops. If i wasnt ti to come back, I keep my foot in the gas and steer past where the rear is going, so the back comes back around.

all vehicles are different. Practice is good, but LOW SPEED practice. 5 MPH max. You don't need any more unless you are in a HUGE parking lot with lots of run off room. to test, just take your foot off the gas at a certain speed, and see how long it takes your vehicle to stop withotu touching the brakes. That would be your max sliding distance, or close to it.

Good advice.. so I should just stay off the brake and even give it some gas? I would try that some more... thing is, I went so fast in the parking lot because I could not get the rear to slide at all at less than 35mph. It was ok going downhill cause I had tons of space, going uphill I thought I had lots of space too but then there was that damn curb covered by the snow. My car is FWD and I don't have a handbrake (well, I do but it's broken) so I can't just pull that to make the rear get loose. I'd go to the parking lot now but they're all salted down now :(
I *definately* should have checked for curbs in that direction, and also have tested sliding distance like you mentioned. Ah well, at least it's just an inner tie rod, and hopefully nothing else will show up. I'll just wait till the next snow fall, and in the meantime drive really slowly ;)
Now I know why people think RWD cars handle badly. A rear-wheel skid is a hell of a lot more scary than a front wheel skid.
 

Evadman

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Good advice.. so I should just stay off the brake and even give it some gas? I would try that some more... thing is, I went so fast in the parking lot because I could not get the rear to slide at all at less than 35mph.

A few things I should clear up. My truck is rear wheel drive, so giving it gas makes the rear kick out. From what you are saying, I get the general idea that your vehicle is front wheel drive. If you give yours too much gas, then you just can not steer.

It was ok going downhill cause I had tons of space, going uphill I thought I had lots of space too but then there was that damn curb covered by the snow. My car is FWD and I don't have a handbrake (well, I do but it's broken) so I can't just pull that to make the rear get loose. I'd go to the parking lot now but they're all salted down now :(

ok, you just confermed your car is fwd. Ging more gas = no steering. not more kickout. Try this. get up to about 10 mph. Then gently push the brake till the front of your car noses down. ( you should be able to feel it ) this will load the front of the car, and unload the back. While still keeping the brake gently pressed, turn the wheel quickly. the front should turn, while the rear will want to continue going in a stright line.

I *definately* should have checked for curbs in that direction, and also have tested sliding distance like you mentioned. Ah well, at least it's just an inner tie rod, and hopefully nothing else will show up. I'll just wait till the next snow fall, and in the meantime drive really slowly ;)

Before you do this, get out and walk around. Look for curbs, hidden things, concrete bump stops at the front of parking spaces, etc. If you are going to do it, at least be safe about it. best thing is to have another vehicle there just in case something like what happened to you does nto happen again.

Now I know why people think RWD cars handle badly. A rear-wheel skid is a hell of a lot more scary than a front wheel skid.

Who says they handle badly? They handle differently. And yes, a rear wheel skid ( loose ) is much easier to handle than a front wheel ( push )

 

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i hit a curb once and it pinched my exhaust closed

only, i didnt know about it, so it cracked a gasket

not pleasant
 

Ultima

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My windshield washer hasn't worked since I hit that curb... of all things, lol. The motor still works (it makes noise, anyway) but the liquid isn't going on the windshield.

Anyway, braking and turning the wheel wasn't making it skid, so I just turned the wheel and gave it gas. The back would then slide around. I figured that to get out of the skid I have to turn the wheel in whatever direction the rear is sliding (quickly!) and give it a bit of gas to pull it out. I'm sure the technique is different on RWD.. If I brake instead the rear slides out and I do a 90.

I also noticed that if the rear slides more than a certain amount, the car does a 180 and there's nothing that stops it from doing that. THEN, just straightening the wheel and hitting the brakes seems to stop it from going past 180. If I turn the wheel all the way to the other side it sometimes goes past 180 to 270 or more. So if the rear slides more than a certain amount I'm screwed... the most I can do is straighten the wheel and hope I don't hit anything! That sucks...
 
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Originally posted by: Ultima
My windshield washer hasn't worked since I hit that curb... of all things, lol. The motor still works (it makes noise, anyway) but the liquid isn't going on the windshield.
I think that means you're out of washer fluid...

Edit: Or the nozzles are frozen shut.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Ultima
My windshield washer hasn't worked since I hit that curb... of all things, lol. The motor still works (it makes noise, anyway) but the liquid isn't going on the windshield.
I think that means you're out of washer fluid...

Edit: Or the nozzles are frozen shut.

hehe... no, I filled it to the brim. I thought that was the problem too but I dunno. Frozen? Maybe, but how can it freeze? The fluid has antifreeze in it.

So, is there any way to get out of a spin once you're past say 45 degrees? As far as I can see there isn't, at least in a FWD car. I have no idea what you'd in in RWD but in my car it seems past about 45 degrees or so you're just gonna go allll the way around no matter what (and into the curb, tree, or whatever is near you).
 

Ultima

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Nevermind, it was probably frozen!!!

The last two days were really cold, but today was a lot warmer and what do you know, it works again.

Good thing too because I've found out that driving into the sun with a salt-encrusted windshield is extremely hazardous. I couldn't even tell if the lights were red or green... damn salt.
 

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Just because you practice getting out of a skid doesn't mean you can still drive too fast for conditions. If you are turning 180deg even steering properly to correct, then you went too fast around a curve. Slow down before you hurt/kill yourself or others.

You need to know how to drive to prevent a skid in the first place, and *that's* what you should be practicing in a parking lot--learning the limits of your vehicle. Then if you accidentally push the envelope you might be able to save yourself.



 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: dman6666
Just because you practice getting out of a skid doesn't mean you can still drive too fast for conditions. If you are turning 180deg even steering properly to correct, then you went too fast around a curve. Slow down before you hurt/kill yourself or others.

You need to know how to drive to prevent a skid in the first place, and *that's* what you should be practicing in a parking lot--learning the limits of your vehicle. Then if you accidentally push the envelope you might be able to save yourself.

Yeah I probably went too fast.. then again I've only ever been skidding like this on the little suburban roads going 15mph (or, the parking lot practicing :)), I've never skidded on the highway or a major street or anything like that. Well, today I had my first encounter with black ice.. the temp went below freezing and I went just slightly too fast around a corner (rather slow for what I thought the conditions were) and the back tires got a bit loose... damn those back tires! The practicing in the parking lot saved me there...

I have been driving slower as of late though, not just because of the speeding ticket but because the rear-wheel skids scared the hell out of me. The front-wheel skids never really scared me much compared to the rear-wheel ones. Between snow and black ice I'd say black ice is worse though because you don't see it. :Q
 
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