I call BS.
To be honest, it seemed like most of the auto industry wasn't moving all that fast to meet the "black man's" CAFE fuel mileage standards even when he was in office, mostly because they knew that they were impossible to achieve without converting most of their product line over to hybrids and electric cars by 2025. Instead, they were building the minimum required percentage of hybrid and electric cars required by law at the time.
Don't forget... for every auto engineer working on the next Tesla Model 3, there is still another engineer working on the next 12 MPG Dodge Hellcat
I feel pretty confident that I'll be able to go to my local dealership and buy a new gas powered vehicle in 2039. Feel free to quote me on that, just in case Anandtech Forums is still around then![]()
Tesla is a zero dollar stock within 3 years. Shareholders will get the shaft someone will get the scraps. If I was Apple I would wait till they go bankrupt and then get the pieces for pennies on the dollar. Only a fool will pay top dollar for a money losing company.
Do people seriously drive that far from home every day?! That seems completely insane and inefficient to me. I would rather put a gun to my head than do that.
And I get annoyed when there is slow traffic and it takes me more than 5 minutes to get to work.![]()
Actually I heard EVs require a garage to charge in, is that really the case? My goal would be to keep it parked outside, is the charge port waterproof even when it's open? I have a tiny garage that's not worth using for a car, I'm converting it to a shop instead. I'd probably just use the 120v option and install a dedicated outlet, but maybe I'd do the 240v option and just setup some kind of booth type structure for the charger so it's safe from elements.
Actually I heard EVs require a garage to charge in, is that really the case? My goal would be to keep it parked outside, is the charge port waterproof even when it's open? I have a tiny garage that's not worth using for a car, I'm converting it to a shop instead. I'd probably just use the 120v option and install a dedicated outlet, but maybe I'd do the 240v option and just setup some kind of booth type structure for the charger so it's safe from elements.
Rich installed his outside:Actually I heard EVs require a garage to charge in, is that really the case? My goal would be to keep it parked outside, is the charge port waterproof even when it's open? I have a tiny garage that's not worth using for a car, I'm converting it to a shop instead. I'd probably just use the 120v option and install a dedicated outlet, but maybe I'd do the 240v option and just setup some kind of booth type structure for the charger so it's safe from elements.
My typical commute is between one to two hours, but I visit clients all over the state. Sometimes it's a short drive, but I'm stuck in traffic for an hour. Autopilot would be awesome! I don't have a garage for a charger at the moment, however.
If Tesla goes bankrupt, they'll get bought up in a second. I don't really see that happening though...they're in a dicey situation, but they've got too much momentum to fail, I think. I'd imagine their self-driving tech will make their stock easily worth 5x five to ten years from now...
Fracking gets petroleum / crude oil that can be refined into gasoline? I thought it produces natural gas / methane or whatever.I love the enthusiasm of the EV owners in this thread, but if you look at the top 10 list of best selling vehicles in the US only one of them is electric. Most of them are still trucks, too, which shows that your average vehicle purchaser doesn't really care about fuel economy.
I'm sure that $6 a gallon gas would fix that. Now that the US is a giant fracking machine, I don't see that happening anytime soon. We could turn the middle east into a giant smoking crater and still have a decent supply of dino juice for the next 20 years.
I believe I read there is a soft-locked Model 3 sold in Canada with a super-low range. It has something to do with only low-cost BEVs qualify for their national subsidy. The equivalent of $35k US is too high to qualify, so Tesla created a lower SKU just to game the system.where did you read that? Are you talking about the first gen Tesla that would get ~30 minutes if you floored it for all of those 30 minutes, uphill all the way?Look at the base Tesla, under a hundred mile range. That's enough for
No idea what the fuck you are smoking otherwise.
I love the enthusiasm of the EV owners in this thread, but if you look at the top 10 list of best selling vehicles in the US only one of them is electric. Most of them are still trucks, too, which shows that your average vehicle purchaser doesn't really care about fuel economy.
I'm sure that $6 a gallon gas would fix that. Now that the US is a giant fracking machine, I don't see that happening anytime soon. We could turn the middle east into a giant smoking crater and still have a decent supply of dino juice for the next 20 years.
I believe I read there is a soft-locked Model 3 sold in Canada with a super-low range. It has something to do with only low-cost BEVs qualify for their national subsidy. The equivalent of $35k US is too high to qualify, so Tesla created a lower SKU just to game the system.
Not sure if this is true, as Tesla is changing their sales tactics at least monthly.
As much as I think solar shingles are a dumb idea compared to traditional panels, I think it would indeed take off if they actually had them available. It's a niche thing that a lot of people would ohhh and ahhh over. If anything they would be good for HOAs as most of them don't allow solar so it would be a way to hide it better. The tricky part is ensuring that they do not become aware that they are solar shingles or they'll force you to rip them all out. So it is a risk.
No link to article, but to qualify for the BEV subsidy, the car has to start at less than $45k CAD. If options push the price up to $55k CAD, it will still qualify.TBH I would love this, even with the subsidies now gone. Doug Ford killed all of that pretty much the day he came into office, at least for Ontario. Not sure what the other provinces are doing these days.
What you're describing is an off-lease first gen. Nissan Leaf.I think a big cost in an EV is the battery, would love to see something like a small hatchback with say, a 50km range. Make the car like 10-15k with option to get more range at extra cost. Bet that would sell. Lot of people like me don't really drive all that much, they just go to work and back, maybe go do errands etc but always stay in town. Or they have two cars, so one car can be for in town and other for longer trips.
What you're describing is an off-lease first gen. Nissan Leaf.
