Ram runs at 800Mhz but...

[bushwickbill]

Someone on another site suggested I put my Cpu back to stock speeds and try running my ram at a 2:3 upclock divider. So I did. Cpu at 2.13 Ghz, Ram at 800Mhz,5,6,6,18 2.1 volts. So now with this new info it is clear that My four 1 GB sticks of DDR2 667 Kingston Value Ram can run together at 800Mhz. I ran Three apps of memtestne test 1024, one test 1024, one test at 510. That seems to be all the Ram Win XP 32 bit can "SEE". It ran to over 100% coverage on all test without errors. Well that brings a small smile. At least I know now that All four Sticks of Ram "Get along" at 800Mhz. Well were do I go from here. I have been testing things out since finding this info out. I can get my CPU to run at 2.8Ghz v.core 1.25, Ram at 700Mhz 5,6,6,18 2.1 volts. I tried to get to post at 2.81Ghz and no go. I don't know what else to adjust. I upped the CPU Volt to 1.35 and still no luck. So please guys, There has to be a way to get this Rig to run at least to 3.0Ghz. I haven't upped the North Bridge yet cause I can't locate it. So some advice would be great on where is the NB volts are, as well as anything else I could try to get up to 3.0 Ghz. Thanx

 

[Quiksilver]

Stop making a new thread every time you want to update your status just post in your existing thread(s).

I don't have that motherboard so I wouldn't know but sames you have it i'm pretty sure it would be in the motherboard manual in which you should have.

 

[bushwickbill]

😕
Sorry about making new threads each time. But I have some info that I could use some advice on. I was looking in the ASUS forums for a complete list of all the fixes that have happened since my BIOS 0806.


Enhance memory compatibility under FSB1333 mode
Add new CPU uCode to support new processor
Revise SLP 2.0 rule
Enable hotplug support under AHCI mode
Fix displayed CPU frequency incorrectly after downgrade CPU ratio
Fix system may sometimes hang after load default in setup then exiting right away while having Conroe CPU installed.
Finetune Q-Fan control algorithm
Enable EIST under VISTA
Fix BBS device string not correct under AHCI mode
Support SLP2.0 string
Fix HCT unreported I/O and memory issuse
Support disable USB function item
Allow disable XD for conroe L
Add full reset after change DRAM mode to enhance memory compatibility
Support CONROE E0 CPU(FSB 1333)
Fix AC Power loss function not correct
Support x4 DIMM
Enable support for WiFi-TV card
Enable PreslerXE 3.73 support
Enable USB like support for SATA HDD connected to JMICRON controller when JMicron option is set to IDE or AHCI mode
Drop CPU fan low limit to 600rpm when Conroe CPU is in use.
Enhance ATA ODD compatibility
Support Conroe-L CPU
Fix CPU VCORE too high after overclocking fail
Fix DRAM frequency incorrectly display problem under auto, standard and AI N.O.S mode
Reduce system full reset of times
Patch some VGA card can't found when NB Vcore value has been set too high
Fix DDR frequency 889 unstable by SPD
Improve S3 resume time
Fix FSB not correct displayed in BIOS setup when CPU has been set to non-standard frequency
Fix chassis fan 2 speed not correct when fan speed too low
Support DDR2 double side x16 module
Enable support for CPU ratio adjustment on Kentsfield B0 stepping CPU
Enable conroe/kentsfield ratio overclocking higher above default value
Fix CPU Fan profile mode not correct after system shutdown
Revise temperature reading algorithm
Update MRC code
Enhance memory compatibility for DDR533 and DDR667 modules.
Revise S3 fuction not stable when CPU FSB over 300MHz.
Add dram frequency help string

As you can see there is quite a few fixes that might help me with my stubborn overclock.

does anybody agree that My BIOS from Nov 2007 should be Flashed tp the latest??
Last Nov was when the big C2D hype was in full swing. So it would make sense that this BIOS was not optimized for C2D overclocking. And here is something that I found that might help somebody help me. It oart of a post from another forum.

"Now Asus have been quite slick with the P5B range of boards as they allow the chipset to overclock quite a bit before they slow it down by altering the strap, what this means is that once slowed down by the 1333 strap it is already in an overclocked state. The bad part is that between 360 and 399fsb the chipset is massively overclocked and really does struggle some what, the consequence of this is an "FSB hole" where it is hard to get the board stable. In reality all you have to do to avoid this "hole" is set 400fsb or higher as the strap changes here to 1333 and the board takes off again usually all the way to 500+FSB. I explain more on what exactly is happening here in more detail.""

The rest of the post is Here:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=41

Can someone help me with this. I have been looking High and low for answers. And this site seems full of knowledgeable people. So can someone Help.

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: bushwickbill

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does anybody agree that My BIOS from Nov 2007 should be Flashed tp the latest??

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Yes. OK, go ahead and try it with a BIOS update. Or settle for a real world overclock.

BTW, a Nov 2007 should be even better than up-to-date. 😉

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: bushwickbill
I haven't upped the North Bridge yet cause I can't locate it.

That's your problem, since you're running four sticks of RAM. Dig out your motherboard manual, and find out what Asus calls it, then raise it at least one "step" higher, if not two.

 

[bushwickbill]

Doh! I mean, Is it better than my BIOS from Nov2006. Yea I am going to Flash later on to see if this helps things out. And after more research I have found that my board does not support North bridge volt altering.:{ Well hopefully all goes well with my first Flash! Thanx for your help guys.

 

[gpse]

if your current bios is from 2006 I would deffinitly update it to the latest bios from ASUS.

 

[bushwickbill]

So I did my First Flash without any problems. BIOS V. 1604 is installed without a hitch. So I Loaded Default setting in BIOS and began my testing. I Started my Overclocking at 2.6Ghz. V.core was set to 1.25, Ram was at 1.9 Volts on Auto timings 5,6,6,15. Speed Fan reported Idle Temps at Cpu 45C, Core 1 and 2, 33C,34C. I Ran Orthos for a quick run of the first batch of tests, "small FFTSs-stress CPU"(16 Mins). Passed no issues. Temps were still Fine at Load.
Speed Fan reported 55C on the CPU, Core#0 45C, Core #1 45C.
Next I set the CPU to 338*8=2.704 Ghz. I left the Cpu V.core And Ram on the same same settings. At Idle temps were the same as before at 2.6Ghz. I Ran the Same Quick Orthos Test for the Same amount of time(16 Mins),
Temps were the same as the temps at 2.704Ghz.

I then Set the Cpu to 350*8=2.8Ghz. V.Core and Ram settings were the Same as before. At Idle, Speed Fan reported the Temps,Cpu at 46C, Core 1 and 2, 36C, 36C
I then Ran the Same Orthos test "small FFTS-stress CPU"(16 Mins) for the first Batch.
At load Speed Fan reported 56C on the CPU, Core#1 and #2
46C, 46C. Every thing Stayed the Same as before. No issues Yet.
Now for My Next Speed I Went at 360*8=2.88Ghz. I left All the settings the Same as before. No Post.
I then Tried to Raise the V.core to 1.2625, 1.275, 1.35, 1.40. I also Jacked up the Ram volts to 2.1 Volts. No luck what so ever. So with the V.core at 1.4 and the Ram at 2.1 volts, I tried 404*8, No post. 370*8, No Post. 380*8, No Post. 390*8, No Post. I gave up after that.

So I went Back to 2.8 Ghz To see if I could lower the V.Core and keep it Stable. I Set the V.core to 1.235, one notch less then before to see if it could run 2.8 Ghz at less volts. Ram at 1.9 volts on Auto Timings 5,6,6,18. And Ran Prime 95.
I got an error after one minute.
So I set the V.core back to 1.25. Ran Prime95 on the "Max heat, Power consumption and some Ram". This time it Ran for the 1024K self test(16 Min torture Test) with no problems. Speed Fan reported 56C on the CPU, Core #1 and #2 were 46C, 46C. Same as my previous 2.8Ghz test.
I finished testing for now so I could get my results off to You.
So with new BIOS in, Everything stayed the Same. I could not get it to post past my previous 2.8Ghz. With the V.Core at 1.40 and the Ram at 2.1Volts on auto timings it still wouldn't budge. What the heck is going on!!??

I was reading in a forum about people raising the volts on the "FSB termination Voltage". I have "Auto and then two other settings in that Tab. Can't remember what they are. Do you have any idea what that "FSB Termination Voltage" Does?? People have said that they have used it to help out their Overclocks. I was looking And I can't find out what it really does. Sure people speculate that it is my North Bridge volts, But I don't think they are certain.
I only have one other suggestion and need to know what you think about it, And how to do it. What if I set my Mult to 7, and tried to post 404*7 which would still be 2.8Ghz. But maybe I would be out of the "FSB hole" That I was talking about. Think that would work? Or is there anything else to try now that I Flashed the BIOS and nothing else has changed?? Thanx. All that worrying about flashing the BIOS and it was a peice of cake looking back.LOL
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[bushwickbill]

no one has anything to add since I have flashed my BIOS and nothing has changed?!