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jord2305

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I cant seem to find a place to reivew these RAM modules. If anyone can help me out and tell me which is better on a single channel setup (dont worry I plan to get 3 sticks). also, which would be the better value?...keep in mind I do not want to OC anything on my first build.
 

fishmonger12

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Originally posted by: jord2305
I cant seem to find a place to reivew these RAM modules. If anyone can help me out and tell me which is better on a single channel setup (dont worry I plan to get 3 sticks). also, which would be the better value?...keep in mind I do not want to OC anything on my first build.


if you aren't overclocking, why get this ram? the better timings are relatively insignifcant compared to the price... money better spent on a vid card or more ram or a car or something.
 

jord2305

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Originally posted by: fishmonger12

if you aren't overclocking, why get this ram? the better timings are relatively insignifcant compared to the price... money better spent on a vid card or more ram or a car or something.

Because I have heard that these were good for gaming rigs, which is what I am building.
 

SrGuapo

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Originally posted by: jord2305
Originally posted by: fishmonger12

if you aren't overclocking, why get this ram? the better timings are relatively insignifcant compared to the price... money better spent on a vid card or more ram or a car or something.

Because I have heard that these were good for gaming rigs, which is what I am building.

Even if you are OCing, running a divider with cheaper RAm will not hurt perforance much on an A64 system (which I assume this is). I would much rather get cheaper value RAM (corsair, mushkin, kingston, etc.) and a beefier video card/CPU.

The timnings mean nothing. the only reason I would get lower timing RAM is if I wanted to get a good OC with a 1:1 divider and money was not an issue.

Edit: I tbunk I may have heard that lower timngs/ 1:1 divider RAm will ionkluy improve RAM performance by 1-5%. When you consider that RAM speed is a very small factor (amount is much more important), it means virtually nothing.
 

ComatoseDelirium

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mhm, either, now for my actual advice, I'd get 1 gig for single channel right now, save the money you would use on the other 512 MB stick and wait till you can get another, than you can have dual channel 2 gigs. and Yes I know you have a 939, just makes more sense that way, and for the money you'd pay for 3 x 512 MB high end ram, you can just get 2( 2 x 1 gig dual) or 3(single channel) gigs of Kingston or Cosair, or Mushkin value ram, really.. you'll get better performance from 2 gigs of value ram than 1.5 high end ram, plus it will cost you alot less.

duh me, I just read the fact that you have a 754, but this is still true : you'll get better performance from 2 gigs of value ram than 1.5 high end ram, plus it will cost you alot less.

You won't even notice the better timings if you not oc'ing.. and really with ram.. its a so slight gain, not worth the money at alll.
 

fstime

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Just get some damn value ram with cas 2.5 and your good to go, they're thread like this every day.
 

Stangs55

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Personally, I went with OCZ Plat. Rev 2. It's better than both of those.

But if for some reason you don't want that, then get the crucial. Also, make sure you buy least amount of sticks possible
(2Gb's accross 4 sticks < 2Gb's accross 2 sticks)
 

krcat1

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I have 2X512 Kingston Hyper X 2-3-2-6, and I am not quite pleased with them.
I cannot get them to run at 2-3-2-6, I have to run them at 2-3-3-7 at 200 Mhz.

And if you do not set the latency setting in bios, they will run at 2.5-3-3-8.
 

jord2305

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Originally posted by: krcat1
I have 2X512 Kingston Hyper X 2-3-2-6, and I am not quite pleased with them.
I cannot get them to run at 2-3-2-6, I have to run them at 2-3-3-7 at 200 Mhz.

And if you do not set the latency setting in bios, they will run at 2.5-3-3-8.


ok...since I am new to building scene...I am not really familiar with the numbers you have there...please tell me more about them if you dont mind...thank you.
 

krcat1

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The numbers are best described in the thread called "Overclocking Guide" under CPU/Processor section of the forums, esp. at the bottom.

The 2-3-2-6-1 refer to the latency timings of the memory. In your bios setup, goto the Cell Menu, DRAM configuration. (See pp 60-62 in your manual)

The Max Memclock should be set to 200 or auto ( I think 200 will get you 1:1 ).
The final 1 in 2-3-2-6-1 is a 1T command rate. Set this to 1T.

The front 2 is the CAS# Latency (Tcl). Set this to 2 or 2.5. Since you have all 3 slots filled, 2.5 might be your only option.
Min RAS# Active Time (tRAS) you can try 6 or 7.
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) set at 3.
Row Precharge Time (tRP) set at 3.

Memory Voltage should be set to 2.6.

Last, you have some form of OCing in the bios (Dynamic Overclocking).
You could set everything to auto, OC with the automatic settings, and use CPU-Z to see what voltages and speeds you get.
If you look in CPU-Z under SPD, there will be the auto setting for the memory, which mine read 2.5-3-3-8, which are value ram numbers.
You can manually set better numbers than these at 200. I can get 2-3-3-6 at 200 at 1:1 now.
 

krcat1

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The Min RAS# Active Time (tRAS) might have to set at 10 on a NForce 3 MB.
I think you should try 2.5-3-3-6-1T and see if that is stable, then try for Tcl = 2.
 

Amaroque

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KHX Sucks IMO. I had 2x 512MB sticks, and they would not run at the specified timings in no less than three different boards.

Needless to say, I got rid of them.
 

jord2305

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How about these?

Corsair TWINX Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory

Are these good?

btw, Thanks for helping me with the latency numbers. I needed it.
 

krcat1

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Which Corsair Twinx do you mean? I do not think that you will have any problems with any memory from Corsair.

Link to Corsair XMS List

Go here and select which type of memory suits you.
Since you have a AMD64 watch for the "works only at 2.5 with AMD" models.

Then go to Pricewatch or something like it to find prices.

Also, look in the memory section of this forum to find reviews on Corsair and similiar brands.