Ram makers should pay for ripping off end users in the last 5 years.

The-Noid

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4 years I believe.

Haven't we been through this once a year for the last 4 years?
 

AmberClad

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Hmm, learn something new everyday -- a couple of the companies found guilty were surprises to me. I wasn't aware that Winbond was in the memory business. I usually associate them with motherboard sensors. Mosel, on the other hand, I hadn't even heard of prior to reading that article.

I don't see any mention of ProMOS...
 

Quiksilver

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Winbond was active in the DDR market, I haven't seen any thing from them in the DDR2 market though. The DDR Ram I have now in this machine has a one in four chance of being Winbond IC's.

If you look over here: http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr/
you will notice a lot of manufactures were using winbond ic's at some point.

Even then brand I never heard of Mosel, has a chance of being the RAM IC's I'm using now lol.
 

AmberClad

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Interesting, thanks. Actually, now if I wonder if ProMOS = Mosel. I don't see any listing of ProMOS ICs in the DDR RAM list. And I'm not aware of Mosel DDR2 ICs. Otherwise, it'd seem odd that they somehow managed to escape the Justice Dept unscathed.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
I wasn't aware that Winbond was in the memory business. I usually associate them with motherboard sensors.

Winbond made the best DDR ever. They always had the fastest RAM at any speed (say PC3200, IOW), and it overclocked crazily, without raising the timings any/much, except for Tras, as long as you could provide it with vdimm. And it was tough, really, really tough (voltage-wise).
 

AmberClad

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I wonder why they got out of the business. Like QuiksilverX1 said, they seem to be pretty much absent, as far as DDR2.
 

myocardia

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They quit making RAM a long time ago. Well, actually they quit twice. The first time was like 2000, or 2001, and there's an article about that somewhere in here: EE Times. The last time they quit making RAM IC's was I'm thinking late 2003, or early 2004, but I couldn't find any links pertaining to the last time, although I'm sure they exist.

edit: I mean links from somewhere with a reputation, not people talking about it on forums.