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Raising Alcohol Taxes Urged to Curb Underage Drinking

Amused

Elite Member
More proof the slipery slope exists... Those who said this kind of thing would stop with tobacco have not only been proven wrong with the fast food and soda taxes, but now this:

Raise Booze Taxes, Study Says

WASHINGTON (Sept. 10) - Underage drinking is a $53 billion problem that needs society-wide treatment, including higher alcohol taxes and tougher sales laws, a new analysis says.

``This is a complex challenge ... to reduce and prevent underage drinking in a society in which drinking is common among adults,'' Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the committee that prepared the new report for the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council, said Tuesday.

Calling its report a wake-up call, the Institute urged a number of steps to curb underage drinking, including higher federal and state taxes, better state identification cards and more aggressive efforts to detect and stop underage drinking parties.

At the same time the report was being issued, the alcoholic beverage industry promised to increasingly target its advertising away from youth.

The Beer Institute and the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States said their members plan to limit advertising to media with a 70 percent adult audience. Rep. Billy Tauzin, R-La., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, called the move ``responsible and appropriate.''

The current standard is over 50 percent adults; the Federal Trade Commission issued its own report Tuesday saying the industry has improved to 99 percent compliance with that standard.

``This report is clearly recognition of our industry's commitment to responsible advertising and marketing,'' said Peter H. Cressy, president of the Distilled Spirits Council.

The FTC study was requested by Congress because of concern that flavored alcoholic malt beverages were being targeted at youth. The commission concluded that was not the case.

Wendy J. Hamilton, national president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the report ``gives us hope that underage drinking prevention finally will have a place on the nation's public policy and public health agenda.''

Not so happy was Jeff Becker, president of the Beer Institute, who charged that the Institute ``relied on a compilation of existing information, much of which contained erroneous conclusions. ... Given this, we are not surprised to see misguided recommendations such as raising beer excise taxes.

``Experience has shown that the only clear results from increasing beer excise taxes are higher unemployment and higher prices for responsible adults,'' Becker said. ``Such measures do nothing to lower teen drinking.''

The Institute report said that while alcohol use is deeply rooted in American society, underage drinking is a significant factor in traffic fatalities, suicide, violent crimes and academic failure, costing the nation an estimated $53 billion annually.

Committee chairman Bonnie, a professor at the University of Virginia, said adults need to avoid behavior that tends to encourage underage drinking.

A 2002 study found that 72 percent of 12th-graders and 39 percent of eighth-graders reported having consumed some alcohol in the previous year.

Federal and state excise taxes are potentially important tools for preventing and reducing underage drinking, the report said. The committee said that even small changes in these taxes can lead to a decline in drinking by youths, who tend to have limited income.

Bonnie said he expects opposition to raising taxes, but there is evidence that higher prices have a significant impact on youth drinking.

Federal alcohol taxes are $2.14 per 750-milliliter bottle of 80 proof spirits, 33 cents per six-pack of beer and 21 cents per bottle of wine. State taxes vary.

Among the report's other recommendations:

Compliance checks should be more frequent to make sure merchants are following minimum-age drinking laws.

All sellers and servers of alcohol should be required to complete state-approved training.

The federal government should require states to achieve specified rates of retailer compliance in order to receive federal funds.

States that allow Internet sales and home delivery of alcohol should adopt regulations requiring customers to verify their identity and age at the time of delivery.

The alcohol industry should join public and private groups to create and fund a foundation focusing on reducing underage drinking.

The entertainment industry should establish rating systems and codes to make sure that young people are not exposed to unsuitable messages about alcohol.

The National Academies is an independent organization that provides advice to the government under charter by Congress. It includes the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, Institute of Medicine and National Research Council.
 
I think stiffer penalties for underage drinking would be more appropriate. Going out to drink is expensive enough.
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
I think stiffer penalties for underage drinking would be more appropriate. Going out to drink is expensive enough.

No sh!t, when four of us went out for my birthday 3 months ago we spent $250 on alcohol.

Granted that was four people going from sober to pretty damn drunk with nothing but mixed drinks in a bar & a club, but still... $250!

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Federal alcohol taxes are $2.14 per 750-milliliter bottle of 80 proof spirits, 33 cents per six-pack of beer and 21 cents per bottle of wine. State taxes vary.
I'm waiting for bars to use this as an excuse to raise the price of a longneck another dollar or more.
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good god?!?! mORE TAXES?! i went out with my dad, and beers are already like 3$ a bottle, ridiculous.

i think the answer is to make the drinking age 18 😉

EDIT: you beat me royal, but we have the same thought.
 
These kids aren't paying for it so they won't care how much it costs. Mommy and daddy's money pays for it so this is USELESS!!
 
Originally posted by: chin311
good god?!?! mORE TAXES?! i went out with my dad, and beers are already like 3$ a bottle, ridiculous.

i think the answer is to make the drinking age 18 😉

yeah and some places, NYC, you can pay $5 for a budweiser at a bar...thats like a 6 pack!
 
Originally posted by: Codewiz
These kids aren't paying for it so they won't care how much it costs. Mommy and daddy's money pays for it so this is USELESS!!

They probably pay for it, but they're not drinking good stuff - Everclear is dirt cheap.

Viper GTS
 
The only thing this will curb is any signs of fiscal restraint that government might be forced to show. Then again revenue is what all these taxes are for no matter how many mealy mouthed politicians whine about it being "for the children" or "for safety" etc..
 
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
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People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
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People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.

hmmm, i dunno, its not hard to find out, since we have the highest age in the WORLD. even canada has only got it up @ 19...stupid america :|😛
 
hmmm, i dunno, its not hard to find out, since we have the highest age in the WORLD. even canada has only got it up @ 19...stupid america
Sometimes I get the feeling that teens in other countries are a lot more responsible then the kids that live here.

Judging by my former high school peers, I don't think giving them a license to drink is a good idea. 🙂
 
People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.


I dunno. We trust 18 year olds with M-16's.
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
rolleye.gif


People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.

Strange, most states had the drinking age at 18 until the 60s and 70s. What are you unable to imagine? History?
 
How much does it cost you guys for a pint of decent lager? Where i live it costs between £2.30(Carling) up to £2.60(Kronenberg 1664)($3.65 up to $4.13), of course inner city is much more expensive.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
rolleye.gif


People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.

Strange, most states had the drinking age at 18 until the 60s and 70s. What are you unable to imagine? History?

Historically, would you say that the average 18 year old from the 60s was more or less responsible than the average 18 year old of today?
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
rolleye.gif


People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.

Strange, most states had the drinking age at 18 until the 60s and 70s. What are you unable to imagine? History?

Historically, would you say that the average 18 year old from the 60s was more or less responsible than the average 18 year old of today?

prob. would say about the same
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: royaldank
Lower the drinking age. That is about the only thing that will work.

Yes. Let's lower the legal age to 12 so we don't have to worry about it.
rolleye.gif


People that are 21 have a hard enough time drinking responsibly. I couldn't imagine how bad it would be if it were legal for 18 year olds to drink.

Strange, most states had the drinking age at 18 until the 60s and 70s. What are you unable to imagine? History?

Historically, would you say that the average 18 year old from the 60s was more or less responsible than the average 18 year old of today?
Hell, the drinking age in Louisiana was 18 until the mid 90s. Do you think the average 18 year old in 1995 was *that* much less responsible than one of today? It's bullshit. The only reason the drinking age is 21 in most states is because the feds hung the bait of federal money for highway improvements over the states' heads. Now they're going to get all that money back by taxing the crap out of alcoholic beverages. Smart.
 
Historically, would you say that the average 18 year old from the 60s was more or less responsible than the average 18 year old of today?

Maybe because back in the day, people took the blame for what they did. And they parented like they should have. People didn't blame videogames for kids shooting up a school. They didn't try and blame cheap beer taxes for underage drinking.

People seem to think American kids are less responsible than the rest of the world. Maybe because we baby them too much and parents are too soft now days.

Higher taxes will only cut into my profits when buying kids beer. I'm only getting a $20 for the six pack no matter what the tax is. Kids can't afford more than that in my area. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: royaldank
Historically, would you say that the average 18 year old from the 60s was more or less responsible than the average 18 year old of today?

Maybe because back in the day, people took the blame for what they did. And they parented like they should have. People didn't blame videogames for kids shooting up a school. They didn't try and blame cheap beer taxes for underage drinking.

People seem to think American kids are less responsible than the rest of the world. Maybe because we baby them too much and parents are too soft now days.

Higher taxes will only cut into my profits when buying kids beer. I'm only getting a $20 for the six pack no matter what the tax is. Kids can't afford more than that in my area. 🙂

lol...sad. thats why its good when you have friends that are 21+

thats pretty cruel, $20 a sixpack, id need a 12-pack for myself...your ripping em off. id rather buy a buncha weed 🙂
 
Doesnt stop people from driving needlessly so why would it stop those same people from drinking????

People dont care about how much something costs, just do I have the cash?
 
Higher taxes will only cut into my profits when buying kids beer. I'm only getting a $20 for the six pack no matter what the tax is. Kids can't afford more than that in my area. 🙂

lol...sad. thats why its good when you have friends that are 21+

thats pretty cruel, $20 a sixpack, id need a 12-pack for myself...your ripping em off. id rather buy a buncha weed 🙂

You haven't seen my weed prices. Kids today will pay anything for that stuff...or anything that looks like weed. 🙂
 
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